4 year old suspended for long hair?!

[Alyssa Rose]

The school now says they will allow him to attend but they will keep him segregated from other kids until he cuts his hair! I am sorry but I just think that is out of control! This kids hair is not down to his ass or anything, geez! He's four years old for cryin out loud. Ughh This just makes me so mad. In my school we had people with mohawks and pink hair and hair way past their butts and we were all just fine.

School officials in suburban Dallas have given an in-school suspension to 4-year-old Taylor Pugh because his hair is considered too long.

http://news.yahoo.com/video/us-15749625/texas-parents-battle-school-over-son-s-long-locks-17178226

 

[Neutron66]

He's four years old for cryin out loud.

It's exactly because he's 4 years old that it shouldn't be an issue.

The kid has no idea what any of this is about. He's fucking 4 years old.

Get the kid a haircut and get him back to school.

 

[Rey C.]

I've never heard of anything like that in a public school. Dress codes? Yeah. But his hair isn't even all that long, IMO. I think they're worried about the wrong things.

 

[jasonk282]

The school now says they will allow him to attend but they will keep him segregated from other kids until he cuts his hair! I am sorry but I just think that is out of control! This kids hair is not down to his ass or anything, geez! He's four years old for cryin out loud. Ughh This just makes me so mad. In my school we had people with mohawks and pink hair and hair way past their butts and we were all just fine.



http://news.yahoo.com/video/us-15749625/texas-parents-battle-school-over-son-s-long-locks-17178226

WTF when have public school have dress codes about hair? its not like its some major international corporation. The dad looks like a metalhead:banger: I would say cut his hair and then send his son to school in this shirt

 

[LaLiLuLeLohan]

"His parents say the boy plans to eventually cut his hair and donate it to a charity that makes wigs for cancer patients. And they are not happy with the district's rules."

The story I read says this is the Texas school district's policy...meaning it's not a private school. So, I smell a lawsuit in the works.

 

[Alyssa Rose]

"His parents say the boy plans to eventually cut his hair and donate it to a charity that makes wigs for cancer patients. And they are not happy with the district's rules."

The story I read says this is the Texas school district's policy...meaning it's not a private school. So, I smell a lawsuit in the works.

yes its a public school and thats what makes me so angry, its so great that he wants to donate his hair but honestly even if he wasnt planning on donating it he shouldnt have to cut it. I mean come on, I highly doubt all the kids in his class are piled around his desk going "ohhh look at the shiny long hair, can I touch it?!?" no, they probably don't even notice his hair, I mean they are 4 year olds.

 

[LaLiLuLeLohan]

yes its a public school and thats what makes me so angry, its so great that he wants to donate his hair but honestly even if he wasnt planning on donating it he shouldnt have to cut it. I mean come on, I highly doubt all the kids in his class are piled around his desk going "ohhh look at the shiny long hair, can I touch it?!?" no, they probably don't even notice his hair, I mean they are 4 year olds.

Oh I just added the cancer quote because, chances are, that's what a jury will be hearing soon. I agree with you 100%. To be honest, I like the idea of school uniforms for several reasons, but regulating a child's hair style restricts the child's freedom outside of school. That's a big no-no. Children do have rights and the school is at fault for not recognizing that. So long as his hair isn't a hazard to himself or others, it shouldn't be an issue. If the school tried to do the same thing with a girl who wanted her head shaved, people would be losing their jobs!

The distraction argument is weak seeing as the school MADE this a distraction. This is discrimination plain and simple.

 

[Montrealman]

Weird. I was 8 years old in 1983 and I had an IRON MAIDEN KILLERS t-shirt and no one at school ever did anything about me wearing it. They knew stuff like that was rock fluff, they knew I wasn't going to go off and kill someone or myself or play records backwards. My Mom wasn't happy with me wearing the shirt though but we all lived happily ever after....with METAL.

 

[~~whimsy~~]

If the donating to cancer thing is true, fine. However, the hair style is not all that bad, not compared to what I have seen in some cases, anyways.

It kind of fits the lad.

Ah well, at least he isn't wearing dresses and drinking beer.

 

[jasonk282]

Weird. I was 8 years old in 1983 and I had an IRON MAIDEN KILLERS t-shirt and no one at school ever did anything about me wearing it. They knew stuff like that was rock fluff, they knew I wasn't going to go off and kill someone or myself or play records backwards. My Mom wasn't happy with me wearing the shirt though but we all lived happily ever after....with METAL.

:banger:

 

[whoremaker]

Lots of unspoken issues there. First, his hair really isn't that long. So, second, I kind of wonder if this is the school's way of mitigating a lice risk because, let's face it, he and his parents look a bit trashy. Third, schools are empowered to limit distracting clothing and such, and this kid's hair is, perhaps not monumentally, but moderately distracting. I couldn't even watch the video clip without wanting to hold the little bastard down and shaving his head. Fourth, while the school's policy is rather strict, I can see their reasoning; they have to draw the line somewhere and have order, or nowhere and have chaos, and to remain fair to all, they have to be irritatingly strict to all. Last, listening to his parents, they sound more like they have a "fight the man" attitude than a "sticking up for the kid's rights" attitude. I'd lean towards them seeing this as just an excuse to "stir some shit up."

Shenanigans all around, says I.

 

[StanScratch]

Not the least bit surprising this would happen in Texas.

 

[~~whimsy~~]

I was always told back in school: You think you have rights, well, you don't! As long as you are on this property and under our rules and restrictions, you will follow them!

What happened to that?

As long as you under our roof, our rules, our restrictions, you will obey. If we all had do as we wish and do as we feel mentality, there would be a lot of bosses having naked secretaries and students back talking, chewing gum, and wearing skirts under the rule limit.

Thing is, once we agree to be under a roof, rule, what have you... we are to abide under their rules, laws, restrictions. No ifs, ands, or buts about it!

If this kid needs to cut his hair, he cuts his hair! According to school rules and code. If not, you withdraw the kid and send him to a school that does not care if he has long hair or short hair or whatever.

Simple as that.

In the end, my rights begin where your rights end and vice versa.

 

[LaLiLuLeLohan]

Lots of unspoken issues there. First, his hair really isn't that long. So, second, I kind of wonder if this is the school's way of mitigating a lice risk because, let's face it, he and his parents look a bit trashy. Third, schools are empowered to limit distracting clothing and such, and this kid's hair is, perhaps not monumentally, but moderately distracting. I couldn't even watch the video clip without wanting to hold the little bastard down and shaving his head. Fourth, while the school's policy is rather strict, I can see their reasoning; they have to draw the line somewhere and have order, or nowhere and have chaos, and to remain fair to all, they have to be irritatingly strict to all. Last, listening to his parents, they sound more like they have a "fight the man" attitude than a "sticking up for the kid's rights" attitude. I'd lean towards them seeing this as just an excuse to "stir some shit up."

Shenanigans all around, says I.

The lice argument is moot. Lice live on the scalp. Hair length has nothing to do with lice. Regardless,unless the kid was found to have lice, his family's "trashiness" is irrelevant.

But you think that the school district should have the right to segregate or penalize kids based on their hair style? Up until what age, 18? I think that's absolutely ridiculous. If we are to use the "distraction" angle, then why not apply it to kids with deformities, disabilities...fat kids, kids with acne or, what distracted me throughout the entire 9th grade, Julie K and her brand new giant boobs. I'm pretty sure that every kid in my class was distracted by her and her clash with puberty.

Removing "distractions" is hardly the thing to teach a bunch of children. I used to work with a guy who weighed 400 pounds and had a gut that looked like a giant ass. If I let that distract me, I wouldn't have had that job for very long.

 

[LaLiLuLeLohan]

I was always told back in school: You think you have rights, well, you don't! As long as you are on this property and under our rules and restrictions, you will follow them!

What happened to that?

As long as you under our roof, our rules, our restrictions, you will obey. If we all had do as we wish and do as we feel mentality, there would be a lot of bosses having naked secretaries and students back talking, chewing gum, and wearing skirts under the rule limit.

Thing is, once we agree to be under a roof, rule, what have you... we are to abide under their rules, laws, restrictions. No ifs, ands, or buts about it!

If this kid needs to cut his hair, he cuts his hair! According to school rules and code. If not, you withdraw the kid and send him to a school that does not care if he has long hair or short hair or whatever.

Simple as that.

In the end, my rights begin where your rights end and vice versa.

It's a public school. People are forced, by threat of imprisonment, to pay taxes. Some of that tax revenue is used to fund public education. The duty of public educators is to educate in a safe environment. That is their only requirement.

Sure we can use the old, "Back in my day" argument, but back in my day, we all had to pledge allegiance to the flag or risk suspension. Back in my parents' day, they had to pray to Jesus before the bell rang and if they chewed gum in class, they got their asses beaten with a paddle. Things change. Sometimes for the better.

 

[whoremaker]

The lice argument is moot. Lice live on the scalp. Hair length has nothing to do with lice. Regardless,unless the kid was found to have lice, his family's "trashiness" is irrelevant.

But you think that the school district should have the right to segregate or penalize kids based on their hair style? Up until what age, 18? I think that's absolutely ridiculous. If we are to use the "distraction" angle, then why not apply it to kids with deformities, disabilities...fat kids, kids with acne or, what distracted me throughout the entire 9th grade, Julie K and her brand new giant boobs. I'm pretty sure that every kid in my class was distracted by her and her clash with puberty.

Removing "distractions" is hardly the thing to teach a bunch of children. I used to work with a guy who weighed 400 pounds and had a gut that looked like a giant ass. If I let that distract me, I wouldn't have had that job for very long.

I didn't say I wrote or even wholly agree with the policy, merely that I understand where the school is coming from. However, since you asked:

Yes, lice do live on the scalp. Never said otherwise. I wondered if the school was merely using this as a cover, and it would be a logical one, as even though lice inhabit the scalp, they appear more often in kids who are less well kept and yes, even trashy, and as longer hair somewhat impedes proper scalp cleansing, it's reasonable to fear that this kid could eventually cause an infestation. Sorry, but I didn't make it that way; life did. And yes, the "eliminating distractions" policy is a valid one, which doesn't apply to kids with disabilities, deformities, acne, etc as they do not choose to be afflicted thus, as opposed to this kid and his parents, who have chosen to make him a mop head. Even the distraction of fake boobs could be mitigated (though not removed entirely) with a warning of what is acceptable dress and what is not. Last, removing distractions from classrooms is absolutely necessary for the success of children, who have shown to be much more susceptible to Attention Deficit than previous generations. Kids need stable, disciplined environments to learn in, or they fail. Simple child psychology and behavior.

Still, that all said, I do agree that this school has chosen a policy which is a bit harsh. The kid's hair is, like I said, not really that long. Sure, he looks a little stupid, but no foul there.

 

[~~whimsy~~]

Back in my day is not too long ago, though... keep that in mind.

Since I graduated a lot has already changed. And I am only speaking of a few some years...

 

[knowone]

The parents need to make a Federal discrimination case out of this. If the school lets girls wear their hair long (I bet they do) they can't tell a boy not to.

 

[LaLiLuLeLohan]

I didn't say I wrote or even wholly agree with the policy, merely that I understand where the school is coming from. However, since you asked:

Yes, lice do live on the scalp. Never said otherwise. I wondered if the school was merely using this as a cover, and it would be a logical one, as even though lice inhabit the scalp, they appear more often in kids who are less well kept and yes, even trashy, and as longer hair somewhat impedes proper scalp cleansing, it's reasonable to fear that this kid could eventually cause an infestation. Sorry, but I didn't make it that way; life did. And yes, the "eliminating distractions" policy is a valid one, which doesn't apply to kids with disabilities, deformities, acne, etc as they do not choose to be afflicted thus, as opposed to this kid and his parents, who have chosen to make him a mop head. Even the distraction of fake boobs could be mitigated (though not removed entirely) with a warning of what is acceptable dress and what is not. Last, removing distractions from classrooms is absolutely necessary for the success of children, who have shown to be much more susceptible to Attention Deficit than previous generations. Kids need stable, disciplined environments to learn in, or they fail. Simple child psychology and behavior.

Still, that all said, I do agree that this school has chosen a policy which is a bit harsh. The kid's hair is, like I said, not really that long. Sure, he looks a little stupid, but no foul there.

Julie K's boobs weren't fake. It was the 9th grade. My point was all the boys were crazy about her and simply separating boys from girls would have ended A LOT of distraction. It also would have left students without the learned ability to cope with distraction.

And the argument about deformities, disabilities, acne etc., is to show that educators aren't willing to risk blatant discrimination charges to eliminate some distractions. Educators aren't willing to remove a kid in a wheelchair from class because that kids will be in a wheelchair either way. And he'll be in a wheelchair before and after class as well, unfortunately.

With that same thinking, why would an educator be allowed to dictate a child's hair style before and after class? It's kind of hard to only have long hair on the weekends.

 

[LaLiLuLeLohan]

The parents need to make a Federal discrimination case out of this. If the school lets girls wear their hair long (I bet they do) they can't tell a boy not to.

There's a LONG way to go before it could be made into a Federal case. That's not the place for it. A civil court is...hopefully adults can actually act like adults before it comes down to that.