*2016 US Presidential Elections* - Candidates, Statistics, Campaign Timelines, Debates

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I've been thinking. There are a lot of people that think Trump supporters are dumb, and that's bad enough, but there is somebody I'm have a feeling that thinks they're dumb that should even be much more concerning to Trump supporters. That person being Donald Trump. I hope they realize he most likely feels the same way about them as a snake oil salesman feels about a mark he successfully cons right after they walk away with his useless product. Does anybody not think he looks out on the crowds that gather for him and secretly thinks them fools?

I would give Trump credit for being so masterful at playing people, but it's more that his supporters are just that easily manipulated than any skill on Trump's part. Playing to the worst and most hateful parts of people's psyches has been a tried and true method throughout history. It also almost always leads to very bad episodes in history.

I also get a laugh out of other notable republicans that try to say Trump doesn't represent republican values and yet he clearly is leading the nomination race. They can't have it both ways. After years and years of pandering to some of the worst aspects of their party and our entire society as a whole if Trump comes around to bite them in the ass hard I think they will be getting what they deserve, because those values have indeed been part of the republican part for a long time now. This whole debacle just makes it harder for them to pretend it hasn't happened.

I agree though I am afraid it may come around to bite the entire nation in the ass. Hillary disgusts me the more I hear of her, and Bernie though an actual believer in his message is a life long socialist It is starting to look like the only possible hope we have is Trump being impeached a year or so after he takes office. Otherwise the question in the future won't be "If you could travel back in time and kill baby Hitler would you?"
 
I've been thinking. There are a lot of people that think Trump supporters are dumb, and that's bad enough, but there is somebody I'm have a feeling that thinks they're dumb that should even be much more concerning to Trump supporters. That person being Donald Trump. I hope they realize he most likely feels the same way about them as a snake oil salesman feels about a mark he successfully cons right after they walk away with his useless product. Does anybody not think he looks out on the crowds that gather for him and secretly thinks them fools?

I would give Trump credit for being so masterful at playing people, but it's more that his supporters are just that easily manipulated than any skill on Trump's part. Playing to the worst and most hateful parts of people's psyches has been a tried and true method throughout history. It also almost always leads to very bad episodes in history.

I also get a laugh out of other notable republicans that try to say Trump doesn't represent republican values and yet he clearly is leading the nomination race. They can't have it both ways. After years and years of pandering to some of the worst aspects of their party and our entire society as a whole if Trump comes around to bite them in the ass hard I think they will be getting what they deserve, because those values have indeed been part of the republican part for a long time now. This whole debacle just makes it harder for them to pretend it hasn't happened.

He's not my guy, but if being dumb means choosing him over Hillary then so be it.

Cruz is smart, and more than likely will not win the nomination. Abraham Lincoln couldn't get elected in this era of the candidate must have charisma.
 
He's not my guy, but if being dumb means choosing him over Hillary then so be it.

Cruz is smart, and more than likely will not win the nomination. Abraham Lincoln couldn't get elected in this era of the candidate must have charisma.
Republicans would call Lincoln, Eisenhower and Reagan RINO, they would boo them, call them libtards
 
Republicans would call Lincoln, Eisenhower and Reagan RINO, they would boo them, call them libtards

lol ok.


I don't think Trump is hoodwinking as many as some would think. Just people don't care anymore. What has the GOP victories in the congress done?

They just want someone to smash shit up. I think what they are counting on is that Trump loves his country and wants it to be "great again."

As opposed to <ahem> someone who goes on an apology tour for his country and feels it needs to be taken down a notch or two.

"Of course America is exceptional, just like people in Kuala Lumpur think their country is exceptional too." i'm paraphrasing.
 
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Would you deny that if Obama would say that, the NRA and GOP politicians and pundits would be outraged ?

The lone piece of significant legislation related to gun rights during the Reagan administration was the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986. Signed into law by Reagan on May 19, 1986, the legislation amended the Gun Control Act of 1968 by repealing parts of the original act that were deemed by studies to be unconstitutional.

Among other things, the act made it easier to transport long rifles across the United States, ended federal records-keeping on ammunition sales and prohibited the prosecution of someone passing through areas with strict gun control with firearms in their vehicle, so long as the gun were properly stored.

However, the act also contained a provision banning the ownership of any fully automatic firearms not registered by May 19, 1986.
http://civilliberty.about.com/od/guncontrol/a/Gun-Rights-Ronald-Reagan.htm
 
lol ok.


I don't think Trump is hoodwinking as many as some would think. Just people don't care anymore. What has the GOP victories in the congress done?

They just want someone to smash shit up. I think what they are counting on is that Trump loves his country and wants it to be "great again."

As opposed to <ahem> someone who goes on an apology tour for his country and feels it needs to be taken down a notch or two.

"Of course America is exceptional, just like people in Kuala Lumpur think their country is exceptional too." i'm paraphrasing.

would agree. I think there is a population of ignorant and willfully ignorant, but I also believe there are folks that understand his flaws. Looking at the field, there are many flaws to go around.
I'm not a Trump supporter, but I don't take issue with him. I don't blame a fox for being a fox. I have more of a problem with people who are against him and attack him in a way that actually fuels his followers.
When people use hyperbole or out right change the words in the claims that he makes, they kill their own credibility.
 
When people use hyperbole or out right change the words in the claims that he makes, they kill their own credibility.

Like how? Far more than not it's either Trump or his supporters that try to flip flop or backpedal on some ridiculous or insane claim he makes to somehow contort something he very clearly said into something else that sounds not as bad than others using something he said in a false way. That's when anybody tries to change something he said at all. There is usually very little hyperbole involved when talking about him because so little is actually needed where it might be with other candidates. He provides way more than enough legitimate material to make that needed.

Of course even that usually doesn't happen because Trump is more than willing to blindly double down on something he said, no matter now stupid or how much it goes against common sense or the truth. It's like if he says something enough he hopes it might magically become true, because that's easier than admitting he said something easily verified as false.

...and if there are people that aren't fooled or aren't ignorant and just plain don't give a crap about the blatant lies or other bad attributes to Trump then I find those people even worse. Willfully flying to that instead of just being fooled is downright scary, and says a lot of bad things about how our country has both become and has not advanced for our previous past.

I do genuinely feel sympathy for all those republicans that have marched to the rallying tunes of guns, God, gays, and cowboy capitalism blatantly against their own best interest, and now are getting pissed because they finally realize all those people they voted into office never gave a damn about them, their own selfishness was exploited by those they voted for, they have yet to receive any of that trickle down of prosperity, their lives are worse off than before, and they have nothing to show for it. Even the social things they wanted have not happened. It's even more sad that they are themselves doubling down on their own fallacies instead of having introspection and realizing that maybe much of their philosophies on life were wrong, that they did nothing but try to manipulate the lives of those that didn't hurt them and made most other people and themselves less prosperous. Instead of channeling the anger they have to make things better and change their ways they are using it to give in to their base nature and stupidity.
 
I do genuinely feel sympathy for all those republicans that have marched to the rallying tunes of guns, God, gays, and cowboy capitalism blatantly against their own best interest, and now are getting pissed because they finally realize all those people they voted into office never gave a damn about them, their own selfishness was exploited by those they voted for, they have yet to receive any of that trickle down of prosperity, their lives are worse off than before, and they have nothing to show for it. Even the social things they wanted have not happened. It's even more sad that they are themselves doubling down on their own fallacies instead of having introspection and realizing that maybe much of their philosophies on life were wrong, that they did nothing but try to manipulate the lives of those that didn't hurt them and made most other people and themselves less prosperous. Instead of channeling the anger they have to make things better and change their ways they are using it to give in to their base nature and stupidity.


Feel the Bern.

I'd take 8 years of Trump 10x worse than he is now than 1 day of Bernie Sanders in the Oval Office.

Fuck, I'd take Trump regressing from juvenile to infantile to where he sucked on a pacifier in his diapers while conferring with the Joint Chiefs of Staff than one more day of your left wing bullshit.
 
Like how? Far more than not it's either Trump or his supporters that try to flip flop or backpedal on some ridiculous or insane claim he makes to somehow contort something he very clearly said into something else that sounds not as bad than others using something he said in a false way. That's when anybody tries to change something he said at all. There is usually very little hyperbole involved when talking about him because so little is actually needed where it might be with other candidates. He provides way more than enough legitimate material to make that needed.

Of course even that usually doesn't happen because Trump is more than willing to blindly double down on something he said, no matter now stupid or how much it goes against common sense or the truth. It's like if he says something enough he hopes it might magically become true, because that's easier than admitting he said something easily verified as false.

...and if there are people that aren't fooled or aren't ignorant and just plain don't give a crap about the blatant lies or other bad attributes to Trump then I find those people even worse. Willfully flying to that instead of just being fooled is downright scary, and says a lot of bad things about how our country has both become and has not advanced for our previous past.

I do genuinely feel sympathy for all those republicans that have marched to the rallying tunes of guns, God, gays, and cowboy capitalism blatantly against their own best interest, and now are getting pissed because they finally realize all those people they voted into office never gave a damn about them, their own selfishness was exploited by those they voted for, they have yet to receive any of that trickle down of prosperity, their lives are worse off than before, and they have nothing to show for it. Even the social things they wanted have not happened. It's even more sad that they are themselves doubling down on their own fallacies instead of having introspection and realizing that maybe much of their philosophies on life were wrong, that they did nothing but try to manipulate the lives of those that didn't hurt them and made most other people and themselves less prosperous. Instead of channeling the anger they have to make things better and change their ways they are using it to give in to their base nature and stupidity.


That's a nice rant. Too bad no one since early 1989 has tried to govern as a conservative from 1600 Pennsylvania, nor many in both houses of Congress.

It takes a lot of brass for you to preach to those you oppose about cult of personality, following blindly and platitudes.

Your side created the Trump movement as much as the estab Republicans but the only consequence you'll have to face is losing in the general election by offering a weak candidate. I am not sure if you guys will ever admit it, but the Dems are in trouble this time around. It is 2008 all over again but this time it is not because we want a smooth talking "clean and articulate" black guy as president but rather we want a street fighter, sometimes vulgar, sometimes hilarious but always interesting smash mouth politician to shake shit up.

The lefties are whining now, that means there's a bad moon rising for them.

And they know it.
 
Your side created the Trump movement as much as the estab Republicans but the only consequence you'll have to face is losing in the general election by offering a weak candidate. I am not sure if you guys will ever admit it, but the Dems are in trouble this time around. It is 2008 all over again but this time it is not because we want a smooth talking "clean and articulate" black guy as president but rather we want a street fighter, sometimes vulgar, sometimes hilarious but always interesting smash mouth politician to shake shit up.

How did Biden ever get away with that or a whole host of his other shit? Or Hillary mocking indians with her Gandhi 7-eleven quip? But Trump is the racist.

I just want them crushed and to hear the lamentations of their women.
 
Like how? Far more than not it's either Trump or his supporters that try to flip flop or backpedal on some ridiculous or insane claim he makes to somehow contort something he very clearly said into something else that sounds not as bad than others using something he said in a false way. .
Yes, I would agree with that. You're making my point, so I assume we agree. Lets not feed the Trump supporters They are going to be selective about what they see and forgive the Donald his sins, but not someone who misrepresents the facts against him.

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Yes, I would agree with that. You're making my point, so I assume we agree. Lets not feed the Trump supporters They are going to be selective about what they see and forgive the Donald his sins, but not someone who misrepresents the facts against him.

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Well it took a while, but you finally put on that Democrat jersey full time.

Good news. Glad you finally came out.
 
I don't see any path for Rubio. He won MN but he's coming in 3rd in most of these states. He can't even say that he's the second choice behind Trump. If he wants to have a political future and run for governor he might have to consider dropping out before Florida.
 
Has anyone anywhere seen 'dog catcher' as an elected office on any ballot?

It is now known as "animal control" and in some places it is an elected office. Some places is a division of the sheriff's department.

Has anyone anywhere seen "POTUS" as an elected office on any ballot?
 

Supafly

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Trump isn't even in it it for the presidency. He knows, as we all read more and more about, that the republican party "management" will dispose of him as the top candidate this way way or the oher, picking another candidate of their choice. No, not "dispose" as in Godfather.

But then, his name-brand will be the biggest it ever was, and he will walk away the shining fighter for the little man, and the white knight, and his business deals will boom. And that is his single goal.
 
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