2013-14 Football ("Soccer") Thread

[feller469]

Will Spurs concede all three points to Fulham? Or will the Spurs salvage at least one? I am not impressed thus far. I don't think they could score in a women's prison with a handful of pardons and a carton of smokes under each arm.

 

[Mr_Stiffy]

Will Spurs concede all three points to Fulham? Or will the Spurs salvage at least one? I am not impressed thus far. I don't think they could score in a women's prison with a handful of pardons and a carton of smokes under each arm.

Apart from the two we scored against the reigning league champions on Sunday, you mean? And easily could have had more?

Fulham are in fucking disarray. We smashed them on their own patch last year when they were a lot better outfit than they are today, and apart from Scotty Parker they're playing like dead men. Anything other than a win tomorrow night will be a woeful disaster and say far more about the state of affairs than the smashing at the Etihad did. The players gave a great performance on Sunday and have come out with rallying cries in favour of AVB in the papers, and I think this whole campaign by the red tops to get him out (unjustly) has actually made the team and manager bond together and grit their teeth to say "come on, fuck the lot of them."

TTID, COYS.

 

[passenger57]

"Premiere"? French twat.



Nice.

Fitting really that two terrible teams were separated by a goal from a terrible striker. I thought April Fool's Day had come early. In the words of England's greatest ever goalscorer * Gary Lineker on Twitter : "Good heavens! Chamakh has scored."

I can't comment on the game ; I watch MasterChef for the first half/half-time and the "Blackwater" episode of Game of Thrones for the second.



Every day, in fact. It was a belter today. Adam, the obvious favourite, did a superb turbot on mussels with a creamy fruity curry sauce topped with creamy crab and a crispy potato twirl decorated with jasmine poached AND crispy seaweed. Michel said slightly not seasoned enough, Monica said slightly too salty. He followed with a flour less pistachio cake decorated with pistachio cream cheese and some pistachio crumb and an apple & parsley puree which they said was flawless. Stephen, the confidence-challenged other one, knocked up duck with crispy skin and a side of leg meat wrapped in duck ham with an array of broccoli - chargrilled brocolli, brocolli and parmesan puree, and a broccoli ketchup to cut through the rich fatty duck, and a red wine sauce. The said the main portion of duckmeat was ever so slightly overdone although I don't think you'd notice with the sauce. He followed with a cylinder of light vanilla cheesecaked rolled in freezedried strawberry crumb with deconstructed biscuit base, slices of strawberry, strawberry compote and macerated strawberries, which again the judges couldn't fault. Based on that each had only made a tiny error, they were forced to put both through to the final. I guarantee the winner of tomorrow's semi won't be anywhere near as good as either of these lads, so it was the right call. Any result other than Adam winning will make me cry. It's better than the Premier League, easy.

* You will note that I say "greatest goalscorer" which is a subtle difference from record goalscorer. While it's true Sir Bobby notched one more than my hero, he played 26 times more often than Lineker in amassing his 49, whereas Gary managed to score his 48 goals in 80 games playing for an England team that were pretty mediocre for most of the time he played for them, and Charlton played when England were one of the two best teams in the world, an era when it was not unknown for England to win 4-0 in Rome and we would beat teams like the USA 10-0 or Switzerland 8-1 - Charlton scored a hat trick in that one. Plus, Gary scored ten goals in two World Cups.

Thinking about that last one... I'd like to see Wayne Rooney score 10 goals in World Cups. In fact, I'd rather like to see him just to score 1 in a World Cup, for a start.

French twat ? Hmmmmmm, is that like Danish pastry in another sense ? Twat is tasty ha.

I thought you might like my comparison in the match and as far as MasterChef goes, i'll take your word on who should win. I need to go vegan so let me go back to eating French twat. Isn't twat the universal language and does it mean the same thing in your neck of the woods ?

I like Rooney even though i'm not sure what he has done lately.

 

[Mr_Stiffy]

Twat is cunt, yes. "I like eating twat" means one thing. "Don't be silly, you twat" means quite another.

Rooney lately has been imperious with 8 goals in 13 league games and generally been in great form, performance wise. He's also been in good form for country as well as club and managed to bang in 9 goals in the qualifying campaign, only one fewer than the 08-09 qualifiers when he was playing in a far superior England team against mostly worse teams than the group we just got out of.

At World Cups, it's a different story. He will go to his third finals next summer still waiting to register a goal on the biggest stage of them all.

 

[passenger57]

Twat is cunt, yes. "I like eating twat" means one thing. "Don't be silly, you twat" means quite another.

Rooney lately has been imperious with 8 goals in 13 league games and generally been in great form, performance wise. He's also been in good form for country as well as club and managed to bang in 9 goals in the qualifying campaign, only one fewer than the 08-09 qualifiers when he was playing in a far superior England team against mostly worse teams than the group we just got out of.

At World Cups, it's a different story. He will go to his third finals next summer still waiting to register a goal on the biggest stage of them all.

Sounds like Rooney is a bit overdue so maybe next time for him. How about the word ''twit''. As in Monty Python..................................

http://youtu.be/TSqkdcT25ss

 

[Chopper3000]

World Cup draw tomorrow. Let's see what fuckers England will end up with.

 

[tartanterrier]

Footie matches on my box this weekend...

Saturday

Man Utd. Vs Newcastle Utd.
Borussia Dortmund Vs Bayer Leverkusen
Lorient Vs Rennes
Sporting Kansas City Vs Real Salt Lake

Sunday

Roma Vs Fiorentina
Torino Vs Lazio
Inter Milan Vs Parma

 

[Mr_Stiffy]

World Cup draw tomorrow. Let's see what fuckers England will end up with.

Hopefully Switzerland as the seeded team. Anyone else and we're probably in a battle for 2nd in the group, and given some of the other 2nd (and 3rd) seeded teams, that's a battle we could easily lose.

Then again, so is Switzerland. Damn you, Toblerone!

 

[Vanilla Bear]

Here are the groups:

A) Brazil, Croatia, Mexico, Cameroon

B) Spain, The Netherlands, Chile, Australia

C) Columbia, Greece, Côte d'Ivoire, Japan

D) Uruguay, Costa Rica, England, Italy

E) Switzerland, Ecuador, France, Honduras

F) Argentina, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Iran, Nigera

G) Germany, Portugal, Ghana, USA

H) Belgium, Algeria, Russia, South Korea


Soooo....I think Group B is the toughest group with Spain, The Netherlands and Chile. England-Italy will be interesting. And Germany once again with a lucky draw. Against USA will be interesting, because of Klinsi, but the Group is definitely not too hard; Once again against Ghana like in the group of 2010 and against CR7 like 2006 in the third place match. Both not easy, but not THAT hard to beat.

 

[tartanterrier]

I'm pretty happy with the draw.At least we'll get some tasty ties from the group stages,mainly from groups A,B,D & G.As for the other groups potential giant killers could be from groups C & H with the easiest groups being E & F.Argentina & France should walk their groups with ease,but I guess we'll find out when the time comes.

 

[Mr_Stiffy]

Spain-Holland is obviously the pick of the first round as it's a repeat of the last final. Realistically despite what the lazy media say ("tough group") England should consider 2nd in their group an expectation rather than a target. In Suarez and Cavani, U R GAY have two great strikers and the thought of Cahill and "Jags" facing up to them is daunting, but on the whole they are a team we should beat. I'd like to see Ghana or the States play beyond themselves and knock Portugal out, even though I can't see it.

I'm sticking my neck out and saying Argentina to win it. A lot of people think Germany but I'm sticking with history in terms of "South American World Cup = South American winners" and I just have this weird feeling that Messi might finally get it right on the biggest stage, and they go in with Aguero firing all cylinders too, I think they might be unstoppable. They have to get it right eventually, it's ludicrous to think 28 years will have passed since their last victory at a World Cup. I know a lot of people just expect Brazil to walk it at home, but that's the coward's prediction and to be frank, England played them over there in June and they didn't look owt special. 2-2 at home to England is poor if you want to win the World Cup.

Incidentally I was on a train relying on my mate texting me the groups and I received "Argies, iran, nig, bonsai" - it took me a while to realize he meant Bosnia and wasn't in fact trying to allude to Japan by saying "BANZAI!"

 

[GodsEmbryo]

Don't underestimate the travelling distance and the weather conditions. England for example plays his first match in tropical conditions against Italy in Manaus (in the north), and has 4 days to recover and fly to the other side of the country to play against Uruguay. I don't envy any team that has to play in Manaus. Group G has the stadions in the tropical north as well.

I'm happy with Belgium's draw. We're lucky with teams, stadions and weather. Russia is probably the toughest of the other teams although South Korea... these little fuckers could be a pain in the ass. Should be doable.
As Vincent Kompany tweeted correctly: "Interesting but tricky because there is no hiding for us, next round is a must."

 

[Chopper3000]

Already planned in - 14th June 2am England v Italy = World Cup BBQ.

 

[Vanilla Bear]

A lot of people think Germany

Yeah, Germans and other stupid people think that. Germany wants to win the cup and Löw says that this is already a tough group. Is he kidding me or what. You guys wanna win the cup. You have to be able to beat everyone. It's ridiculous how proud they already were after qualifying. This was one of the easiest groups for gods sake! And then they re-signed the whole staff. Really? Already after qualifying? You haven't won shit yet! Is this really your ambition? To applaud yourselves after qualifying in such an easy group with no competition?! Everytime against big opponents they choke, they have the ambition to win the cup, but then they say THIS is a tough group? I can't stand Löw and Bierhoff anymore. They say this is a tough group so when they win it they can be "proud" of themselves again for winning it. You can be proud if you win against big guys and not this, you annoying shitheads. You wanna win everything, but don't wanna play the big teams? That's ridiculous. Play the big teams and prove you deserve to win the cup!

It's not that I don't want us to win it. But I want us to deserve it by winning against big opponents.
Okay no group can be tough enough to have Germany not even make second place. BUT not even do we have an easy group, but we will face someone from Group H in the next round. So again an easy one. Then against someone from groups E or F. Won't be a big one either. Except maybe Argentina. But they only have a chance at the cup because they know the weather conditions. Like Stiffy said, South American team in South America.

So Germany can easily make the Semi Final again. Just then we would face a big European opponent. So third place for Germany again?


Only things that can be tough for Germany in the first three rounds is, like GodsEmbryo said, the travelling distance and most importantly the weather conditions.

That's why I said Argentina has a chance to win it all. Same goes for Brazil. I'm not going to be a "coward" :tongue: and say they're going to win it all, because they suck, BUT they have a bigger chance of winning it than they would have if it took place in Europe. But same goes for Argentina. I don't see them strong at all and if it was in Europe they would suck just like they did the last cups, but they have the bonus for being South American. But yes, like Stiffy, I see Argentina being better than Brazil. Brazil having a bonus for playing in front of their crowd and knowing the weather conditions better than anyone else though. That would be the only reasons why they could win it. I still don't see that though. I rather see Uruguay in front of Brazil.

So yeah it could become an interesting cup, because of the conditions. The team that will manage the conditions best is going to win it. Doesn't have to be the best team in general though.

 

[StormRuller]

I liked the draw... to win the Cup will be either Brazil, Argentina, Germany or Italy

Already planned in - 14th June 2am England v Italy = World Cup BBQ.

hour reschuled for this match

 

[Vanilla Bear]

I liked the draw... to win the Cup will be either Brazil, Argentina, Germany or Italy

Italy has no chance of winning it all. I'd rather say Spain or Holland next to Germany when it comes to European teams.
Brazil and Argentina only have "good" chances, because they're "at home" (South America). And btw the winner of the Confed Cup (Brazil) has never won the World Cup afterwards.

Already planned in - 14th June 2am England v Italy = World Cup BBQ.

hour reschuled for this match

Yep, match will be three hours earlier. So 11pm in England.


PS: Welcome back StormRuller! Long time no see! It's me maleonetwo (Maley) in case you don't know.

 

[Mr_Stiffy]

Yeah, Germans and other stupid people think that.

A lot of people here do as well. Among my friends :

People that watch lots of football NOW but aren't serious stattos about it : Germany.
Stattos like me : Brazil, because of South American World Cup = South American winner. Except me, I say Argies.

Spain are a possibility as ever, Italy will fuck it up somehow, the Dutch will squabble and ruin it for themselves, and while a load of people WANT to say Belgium for their darkhorse but they're just romanticizing. They're a decent Premier League 11 but only Kompany, Hazard (elder) and Lukaku are real star quality.

 

[Vanilla Bear]

We have one of the best squads in ze world, with the most potential but somehow we're not ready for the big step. I don't know why. Especially when we meet Italy. Who are actually not as good as we are, but we are too afraid and anxious against them.... I think we could need a new, better coach. But nooo...we resign him PRIOR to the world cup, after a ridiculously easy qualification round.

Löw is just annoying by now.

 

[tartanterrier]

As Brazil are hosting this tournament,and as they bring so much to the game,it's only right in my opinion that they deserve to win this on their own soil.Of course the likes of Argentina,Spain & Germany will prove to be worthy opponents,but Brazil should be fired up enough to see them through as winners.

 

[Mr_Stiffy]

FA Cup 3rd round draw - bollocks.

At least five Premier League teams will fall at the first hurdle. Burnley are doing well in the Championship and should give Saints a good game, will be an emotional one for Jay Rodriguez. I reckon Moyesie is likely to name strong teams in the cup this year, see if he can win a trophy in his first season at United, since he didn't win one at Everton and he's not terribly likely to win the Prem at this rate.

Arsenal v Tottenham
Manchester United v Swansea
Blackburn v Manchester City
Derby v Chelsea
Liverpool v Oldham or Mansfield
Everton v QPR
Newcastle v Cardiff
Aston Villa v Sheffield United
Southampton v Burnley
West Brom v Crystal Palace
Norwich v Fulham
Nottingham Forest v West Ham
Stoke v Leicester
Sunderland v Carlisle
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Bournemouth v Fleetwood or Burton
Ipswich v Preston
Grimsby v Huddersfield
Birmingham v Bristol Rovers or Crawley
Brighton v Reading
Bolton v Blackpool
Macclesfield v Sheffield Wednesday
Port Vale v Plymouth
Charlton v Wrexham or Oxford
Wigan v MK Dons
Rochdale v Leeds
Doncaster v Stevenage
Kidderminster v Peterborough
Middlesbrough v Hull
Southend v Millwall
Bristol City v Watford
Yeovil v Leyton Orient
Barnsley v Hartlepool or Coventry

I love the thought of the international fans reading this and thinking "I haven't a clue who some of these teams are or where the towns/cities are." Kidderminster, for instance, is a fucking shithole.

As Brazil are hosting this tournament,and as they bring so much to the game,it's only right in my opinion that they deserve to win this on their own soil.

Interesting choice of words - "it's only right"? "Deserve"? Nobody in football deserves to win something until they've won it.