2010/2011 NCAA Football Thread

[titsrock]

I definitely think adding the Big12 elite teams trumps adding anyone from the MWC or WAC in terms of economics.

I think the WAC and MWC should merge and get a guaranteed BCS team. The disparity between the SuperPac10 and the MWC, WAC is going to be huge if those 2 conferences continue to be separate entities. Merge and survive....what will happen to Baylor, Mizzou, Iowa State, etc?

The Mountain West is a better conference than the Big East. I guess we'll see what happens when Pitt comes to play Utah this fall...

 

[bodie54]

I definitely think adding the Big12 elite teams trumps adding anyone from the MWC or WAC in terms of economics.

Absolutely, although now that I think on it a bit more if A&M (for instance) decided to go elsewhere I could accept BYU as the 16th team in the package.

 

[STDiva]

 

[D-rock]

Maybe so but the NCAA is punishing them for a per se act....not because of how the player helped them.

Theoretically USC would have been subject to the same sanctions if a backup punter exposed them to the same violations.

Not that I think they always make fair decisions or act reasonably, but the fact they can, do, and have given out different punishments for the same offense would lead me to believe that they have discretion over the severity of a punishment based on the circumstances and can take into account common sense. Or at least they pretend to do those things.

 

[Hot Mega]

Not that I think they always make fair decisions or act reasonably, but the fact they can, do, and have given out different punishments for the same offense would lead me to believe that they have discretion over the severity of a punishment based on the circumstances and can take into account common sense. Or at least they pretend to do those things.

Program can be and are punished severely for infractions with players who never play a down for them.

Washington was punished by the NCAA for a violation with a player who ended up playing at Colorado St.

 

[YumiYumi_1988]

UCLA is already hosting Texas at the Rose Bowl on September 17th.
If the merger takes, I presume that would then be considered a conference game?
.....except it would unbalance the Bruin's conference schedule, so.... :dunno:

These changes won't go into effect for 1 or 2 years.

 

[bodie54]

These changes won't go into effect for 1 or 2 years.

That's what I suspected, but I hadn't been paying any attention to this situation until today. Thanks for the info.

 

[Red001]

it will be 2011 or 2012 in some cases before schedules can align. Florida will do every thing it can to exclude Miami and Florida State from the SEC it likes being the only Florida school very big for recruiting purposes. Adding Kansas with Texas A&M would be huge for the SEC though

red001

 

[Hot Mega]

Better would be North and South

North=UM MSU PSU Minn Wisc NW

South=OSU Neb ILL Purdue Iowa IU:hatsoff:

 

[YumiYumi_1988]

it will be 2011 or 2012 in some cases before schedules can align. Florida will do every thing it can to exclude Miami and Florida State from the SEC it likes being the only Florida school very big for recruiting purposes.

red001

I hope not. Besides, beating Miami every year should help recruiting. It's worked wonders with eliminating FSU's presence

 

[Baill Inneraora]

I could not be more excited about adding Nebraska to the conference.

 

[Lust]

hmmm, looks as though the big 12 will not go quietly into the night.....

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/15/sports/ncaafootball/15colleges.html

 

[titsrock]

^
That's really a crippling blow to the Pac-10 and a huge victory for the Big 12 leftover schools.

My guess is that the Pac10 could still negotiate a better cable deal than $25mil/per school. Maybe it's not over yet :dunno:

 

[Lust]

^
That's really a crippling blow to the Pac-10 and a huge victory for the Big 12 leftover schools.

My guess is that the Pac10 could still negotiate a better cable deal than $25mil/per school. Maybe it's not over yet :dunno:

i agree. but then again, they say if you don't like the weather in Texas, wait 15 minutes. so maybe they'll change direction again lol. staying in the big 12 does tend to help UT quite a bit with their local TV deals but really i think they should look at the big picture and start making a few super conferences to help draw out a better NC series. I was hoping the PAC 16 rumors would be a closer step to that. i don't think we've heard the last of conference movings and expansions for the next couple of months though.

only 1.5 months to go to kickoff! woooooo!

 

[rwill25]

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That's really a crippling blow to the Pac-10 and a huge victory for the Big 12 leftover schools.

My guess is that the Pac10 could still negotiate a better cable deal than $25mil/per school. Maybe it's not over yet :dunno:

Very true, but I don't know if the Pac-10 can sum up a deal worth more than $25 million a year per team.

According to this new contract, Texas would earn more than 25 million a year. Texas A&M and Oklahoma would earn more than 20 million, and the 7 remaining members of the Big 12 at least $14 million and $17 million. That's something the Pac-10 isn't willing to do. link

If the Pac-10 can figure out how to pay Texas more money, then the Pac-10 may have a chance. If not, it looks like Utah to the Pac 10.

 

[titsrock]

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I don't see the Pac-10 agreeing to pay Texas more money than other members of the conference (even Dawgs like Wazzu). However, with the eyeballs in the entire West Coast + the eyeballs in the states of Texas and Okie..it seems reasonable to me that the Pac-10 Network would be above $25mil for all schools.

If the Texas et al turn their backs on the Pac10...maybe the Pac10 ought to look at bringing in the MWC and the WAC into a SuperMega Conference and then argue that it deserves a guaranteed 2 BCS slots every year :yesyes:

 

[bodie54]

If the Texas et al turn their backs on the Pac10...maybe the Pac10 ought to look at bringing in the MWC and the WAC into a SuperMega Conference and then argue that it deserves a guaranteed 2 BCS slots every year :yesyes:

No no :nono:
If Texas and Oklahoma are both irrevocably out then the Pac 10 should just stand pat.
There are so many mediocre to bad teams in the MWC and WAC, why would you want to dilute the quality of your conference that way?

 

[titsrock]

^
We gotta get that $20 mil somehow :dunno:

 

[YumiYumi_1988]

There's no way the Pac-10 can get 20 mill a year to their schools. Especially with 16 schools. Then each team is getting a smaller piece of the pie. Texas' best option may be being the 12th, and final, Pac-10 team and leaving OU and the rest out in the cold.

 

[Red001]

so the pac-10's fallback will be UTAH. the pac-10 can't get to that money because lack of big tv markets in thier area of coverage the pac-10 has 1 L.A. And as long as Texas stay the big 12 of some kind would stay.

red001