2010/2011 NCAA Football Thread

[titsrock]

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If the Pac10 pulls off this swoop there are still plenty of options for the Big 10--Pitt, Notre Dame, Rutgers, Boston College, Syracuse, Nebraska, Mizzou, Iowa State, Cincy thefinger) all seem like realistics...

Notre Dame only gets $8mill from NBC. It's HIGHLY DOUBTFUL that NBC could increase that. $20 mil trumps $8mill especially in this economy.

 

[Hot Mega]

The Big 10 might have fucked around too long and missed out.

Notre Dame would have been the natural choice give it's academic and enrollment standards and existing rivalries already with B10 schools. But that isn't likely to happen. Just wouldn't make much financial sense for ND to join.

Seems like maybe Pitt or Missouri make sense as the next likely programs.

 

[Baill Inneraora]

The only way ND comes in is if they have to. Which means if the Big 10 would have to blow up the Big East. I think that means Rutgers, U Conn & Syracuse.

 

[maildude]

The Big 10 might have fucked around too long and missed out.

That's what the PAC10 is counting on.

 

[Hot Mega]

The only way ND comes in is if they have to. Which means if the Big 10 would have to blow up the Big East. I think that means Rutgers, U Conn & Syracuse.

I think the only way ND joins the B10 is if they want to. I don't see any circumstance where their football program has to. They are just too big of a franchise entity on their own and it wouldn't make any business sense for them to.

The other downside to that prospect for ND is in looking at the fortunes of PSU since joining the B10...however, ND schedules 4 or 5 B10 teams a year anyway and already has a couple natural rivalries within the conference.

Cincinnati might have made a great candidate if their enrollment and admissions standards were on par with B10 schools.

 

[Baill Inneraora]

ND has the 3rd largest TV contract.....................in Indiana. Purdue and Indiana get 22 million a year in TV revenue.

Ohio State would join the MAC before they would agree to Cincinnati joining the Big 10.

 

[Hot Mega]

ND has the 3rd largest TV contract.....................in Indiana. Purdue and Indiana get 22 million a year in TV revenue.

Ohio State would join the MAC before they would agree to Cincinnati joining the Big 10.

Who does ND share bowl revenue with? But it's a little more dynamic than just their exclusive deal with NBC. Being independent continues to give them the opportunity to shop their product all over the country and maintain rivalries which add value to their merchandising. Not sure if they still rank near the top in margin but that is there incentive.

As far as Cincy...well, I'm against it to because their academic standards are not on par with the B10 but if it was...then OSU would just be 1 of 11 in the vote.

 

[titsrock]

Why the hatin' on little ol Cincy :dunno: :crying:

Something's gonna happen. Maybe the Pac10 will launch the first scud. I don't see how the Big East remains as a football conference if the Big 10 raids Rutgahs and Pitt...

 

[titsrock]

By what measurement do we weigh academics :dunno: I'd have to see Cincy's position in relation to Iowa and Sparty....tbh.

 

[Hot Mega]

Why the hatin' on little ol Cincy :dunno: :crying:

Something's gonna happen. Maybe the Pac10 will launch the first scud. I don't see how the Big East remains as a football conference if the Big 10 raids Rutgahs and Pitt...

OSU has been hating on Cincy for decades since Cincy beat them twice for the championship in BBall back in the '60s.

 

[titsrock]

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Was that during the days of General Bobby Knight?

 

[maildude]

From Yahoo Sports:
• There was a lot of talk that Michigan State would be switching to a 3-4 defense, but the spring game was all 4-3. Mark Dantonio has said, though, that the Spartans will use more 3-4 next season, in part because of their deep supply of quality LBs and relatively thin ranks on the defensive line.

Uggh......

 

[Baill Inneraora]

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Was that during the days of General Bobby Knight?

We won in 60 then lost in the Championshil game in 61 and 62.


OSU and Cincy hate each other for a lot of reasons. It gets real ugly every 2 years when they are competing for state funding when the legislature passes the state budget.

 

[Jason1]

That's what it has become, a business. It's not about education anymore. It's not about enriching the athletes lives. It's solely about the money and winning at any cost that they can get away with.

I'll be devil's advocate here for a bit, but was it ever really about enriching the "student-athletes" lives in the first place? Sure maybe some older players graduated, but I really don't think they gave a shit about their degree in the first place, then and now.


And last but not least, Go Gators!

I'm actually excited to see what Brantley can do. I mean I love Tebow to death and I'll follow him to hell and back, but it'll be good to see a "throwing" QB again, haha.

 

[titsrock]

OSU and Cincy hate each other for a lot of reasons. It gets real ugly every 2 years when they are competing for state funding when the legislature passes the state budget.

My advice: Spread the wealthh :glugglug:

Nothing will ever dampen OSU/Michigan but there's nothing wrong with a nice local rivalry either.

Penn State supposedly gets its panties in a bunch whenever there's talk of Pitt. If the Big 10 invites Pitt, that will make a tasty local game for those schools.

ESPN is reporting "sources" have allegedly given the Pac10 Commish the official blessing to pursue any deal.

Looks like there is some serious shit going on right now in the world of CFB

 

[D-rock]

I'll be devil's advocate here for a bit, but was it ever really about enriching the "student-athletes" lives in the first place?

Ever? I'll admit that it wasn't in any time in modern NCAA sports history, and has been that way before all but probably a few of us on this messageboard have been born. However, if you go back far enough, and it was quite a while ago probably at least pre 60s and maybe even 50s, it really was more of a student extracurricular activity even if there was a lot of tradition and pride involved. It wasn't run like a huge industry. I could also point out despite how long it's been going on that in no way makes it somehow right or justifies it.

 

[Hot Mega]

Ever? I'll admit that it wasn't in any time in modern NCAA sports history, and has been that way before all but probably a few of us on this messageboard have been born. However, if you go back far enough, and it was quite a while ago probably at least pre 60s and maybe even 50s, it really was more of a student extracurricular activity even if there was a lot of tradition and pride involved. It wasn't run like a huge industry. I could also point out despite how long it's been going on that in no way makes it somehow right or justifies it.

Intercollegiate sports started as an alternative way for students to get in physical activity (as compared to manual labor).

As the entertainment value has grown of some sports, in many cases universities see it as an additional source of revenue. That being the reality, it's worth it in some cases to now exchange an offer (of the opportunity) to get an education for participation in a sport. A more than fair exchange IMO.

Just because all student-athletes may not be on a Phi Beta Kappa curriculum doesn't mean many don't get worthwhile educations. (The college/university experience is an education in and of itself.) Or, that the institution has somehow compromised it's academic ethics per se.

But certainly the revenue component lends a certain and natural business aspect to it but that just comes with the territory IMO.

 

[Baill Inneraora]

I think we are heading towards 4 major super conferences.

 

[Hot Mega]

I think we are heading towards 4 major super conferences.

Seems so...:crying::throwup:

 

[YumiYumi_1988]

I wonder if the SEC might make a pitch to Texas, try to hijack the Pac-10's move.
SEC + OU, UT, UM, FSU = Best conference ever.