11 thing forbidden by God but that christians do anyway

[Jack Davenport]

Its amusing to listen to people who believe in god distance themselves from the actual writings of the bible. They interpret it to suit their needs and excuse themselves from the things they do that contradict the very things they claim their faith is based upon. The old testament was supposedly gods rules for mankind, not just the jews. the jews were his chosen people but there was no specific sect he was aiming at. The new testament was based upon the life of jesus or the "modern times" although 2000 years ago. So does it say somewhere in the NT that the OT is obsolete? I must have missed that. Can someone please post where it says so?

And Mr. Countach it's very obvious you don't practice much of anything other than grandiose rantings and talking down to people. And Lacey Black nailed it just before you said just what she predicted you would say.

First of all you are a disturbed person. Secondly, the only reason she predicted anything is that we have had to remind you dumbfucks time and time again that the Old Testament is law handed down by God to the Nation of Israel so because she doesn't like that fact made her bold prediction. As long as idiots like you keep quoting 4000 year old OT scripture as modern day Christian philosophy I and it appears others will have to remind you of this. As for clarification the Old Testament talked about a coming Messiah the Bible was not a series with a prequel and the content was not re-written mid production. It was combined into two Testaments but it has been distinguished as two separate books and can be purchased as such. I won't even get into the age of grace as opposed to the age of law as that would vaporlock that simple little mind of yours. Gotta save room for Bill Maher drivel and Dailey Kos oozings. You have already been exposed as Milano yet you create a username to try and offend but it just comes across as juvenile and desperate and comical. Even some libs just shook their heads at your latest incarnation. A bit of advice if you are willing to accept it. Seek professional help and quickly. You are coming unraveled faster than a cheap suit. And for somebody that joined the board 2 weeks ago and has only 20 or so posts you seem to know so much about us. Nobody takes you seriously. And when I say nobody, I mean Nobody JesusWasGay :1orglaugh What are you? 15?.

 

[JesusWasGay]

Forgive me for not being offended by you saying I am disturbed. This coming from the religious zealot on a porn website message board scolding and correcting and boasting endlessly, as well as name calling and making threats of violence. How appropriate for a christian. And she predicted it because it was obvious that the mindless believers would come crashing from their homophobic closets to distance themselves from the OT.

And Im sure you would know plenty about cheap suits, but let's set aside your finger wagging and art-thou-wonderful grandstanding and address your ridiculous nonsense. I have been exposed as Milano? How so? By a no longer admin with an axe to grind? You use the name of a car I'm sure you claim to own as your make believe name, running your mouth endlessly with anonymity, why not afford others that very same luxury? Why is it so important for you to know my identity when you are very clearly hiding yours?

As far as your nonsensical self-serving interpretations of the bible, you once again proclaim one to be obsolete and the other to be the more relevant modern version, even though it's a few thousand years old back when they all thought the world was flat and that a man walked on water and turned things into food. For someone who gets pissed at being accused of being a practicing christian you sure practice the heck out of it on this website. And I know about some of you from reading through the posts, just as you have already tried to put a finger on me and my agenda.

 

[wdoall]

The episcopals, who are Christian, have no issue with the gays. They even have a gay bishop. Since they are more modern then the NT does it mean they are now the true path and the NT is out dated?

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The episcopals, who are Christian, have no issue with the gays. They even have a gay bishop. Since they are more modern then the NT does it mean they are now the true path and the NT is out dated?

 

[JesusWasGay]

its all outdated. none of it is relevant in today's world. be good to other people, treat them as you want to be treated and your life will go well. That's all you need to know. You don't need some outdated fictional book 2000 years old to live by to have a good life. That is for the hopeless and feeble minded to rely on because they don't have the stones to rely on themselves.

 

[wdoall]

Far from out dated, still beautiful and relevant. And if not for my belief in God, I'd have been in jail years ago

 

[JesusWasGay]

Common sense never goes out of date, but you kept yourself out of jail, not anyone or anything else. Hemingway wrote books just as eloquent and significant as the bible. L Ron Hubbard wrote a book that is essentially common sense and guidelines to live by so he could make money. You believe religion kept you out of jail but that's the great scam. You did it on your own.

 

[wdoall]

I appreciate your view, but it wasn't a fear of police or thought that I know what's right and wrong. I truly believe some people deserve to be beat to death for the common good. I don't do it out of my belief in the Lord and nothing else.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Oh poor Milano. She went crying and screaming to the PTB for that mean old moderator confirming her new identity and had him stripped of his responsibilities. Guess what bitch revid and myself had you pegged within your first 2 posts. And then you post here with the same crap as you did previously. It wasn't too hard to figure out. Your dumbass username gave you away. Still can't grasp the concept of the age of law and the age of grace huh? And dipshit Christ didn't appear until the NT so of course the OT while laying down some common sense laws that are still adhered to today such as murder. As for practicing my faith on this board, give one example where I have tried to convert one person to Christianity on this board and I will send you 10 grand. How's that for chest thumping and grandstanding. And yeah I know a little about having to rough it and wear cheap suits. When I was first hired I bought 3 suits from JC Penny and used to pick up things from thrift stores because I was a poor struggling recent law school grad. My mother owned the car at the time and I worked to buy it from her for 2/3 the value so she could give my brother and sister their share. So she wouldn't have to sell it. Now go and complain that your secret identity has been exposed by someone else and try and get them banned you pathetic twit. So again I ask you, how are things at Cornell? :1orglaugh

 

[Rattrap]

Johan - these are largely Levitical laws, given to the Hebrew nation when they were learning (and being taught) how to live as a special nation, set apart. These are not laws given to Christians. And, as Christ is the fulfillment of Old Testament Law, his teachings are those which need be followed. Christ didn't condemn eating lobster as against his word.

So does it say somewhere in the NT that the OT is obsolete? I must have missed that. Can someone please post where it says so?

This. dirk, can you elaborate? Because when I read things like Matthew 5:17-19, it appears to directly contradict the idea that the Old Testament is obsolete.

A mostly-unrelated mind game: how does an omnipotent, omniscient being change its mind when it already knew the future?

 

[JesusWasGay]

So let me get this straight, to practice christianity you have to convert people? How about your love of the bible-beating tea party idiocy as well as your defense of christianity and your constant defiance of all other views but your own, Jack? Demonizing those who disagree with you and your faith is a pretty good indication of your belief in the non-existent.

And oh how fitting that you are a lawyer, and let me guess criminal defense or personal injury? Yeah, you have a lot to feel superior about. By the way simpleton, that was sarcasm.

 

[Jack Davenport]

You know what is pathetic? You were so out of control as Milano that they couldn't even enforce the OCSM protection act with you. From what I understand they told you that if you were going to behave in such a manner as an active OCSM that you should post under a different name as you were undermining all the other OCSM's. You know the ones that aren't batshit crazy? Now run along and throw a temper tantrum about how we know that too and see if you can get some bans handed out. I am not exchanging anymore insults with you. This is it. From now on you can talk to yourself. I am sure you are quite used to it.

 

[wdoall]

all aboard children are arguing again so I'm heading to the bar have a good day everybody

 

[Jack Davenport]

Nah Milano is going on ignore. Anyway congrats on the Lions win I was pulling for them and I am getting ready to watch the Panthers .

 

[wdoall]

Thanks, they surprised me and played well lol

 

[lurkingdirk]

This. dirk, can you elaborate? Because when I read things like Matthew 5:17-19, it appears to directly contradict the idea that the Old Testament is obsolete.

One aspect to this is that Christ was part of the Jewish nation at a time when the nation was still singled out as the chosen people. He was an observant Jew. He adhered (largely) to the Levitial law that his family followed. He did not come to abolish that law, but to fulfill it. Christ took the law and transformed it. Similarly to how he took the Passover meal and transformed it to Eucharist (Holy Communion, the Lord's Supper, whatever). Did he abolish the Passover? No. He fulfilled it, and created something new in its place. He also revealed a God of Grace, and of love in place of a Punitive, Hostile God.
There are a million things that can be said, I'll leave it there for now.

A mostly-unrelated mind game: how does an omnipotent, omniscient being change its mind when it already knew the future?

This is a most difficult concept, but I would suggest you do some googling and reading on the Aseity of God. Keep in mind that God is not bound by his creation, he exists outside and separately from it. God is not bound by time or space, so how he interacts with creation is outside of time, as well. That puts a monster kink in the whole changing his mind in the future, doesn't it? The future is no different than the present to Him.



And, finally, to all the others "debating" topics here - lighten up. Holy shit, I understand that you don't share views with Christians, Mariah, but why must you actively persecute them, call them out, and tell them how stupid they are? Why can't you merely acknowledge that you don't share their beliefs and have a civil conversation? Incredibly childish behaviour. My beliefs differ from yours, but you don't see me telling you how stupid you are because we think differently, do you?

Here's a tip - no one, not even you, has all of this religious stuff figured out. You say there is no higher power. You state it with absolute conviction. Prove to me that it does not exist. You can not. period. Hold your beliefs, make them important to you, show some tolerance for those who believe differently.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Every possible insult has been hurled and every position has been stated. She lives to insult Christianity and those that sympathize with them. It has to end somewhere and the only way I know is to ignore her and those like her completely. I will never respond to her again no matter what she says. I'm sick of it. She obviously thrives on it.

 

[lurkingdirk]

Every possible insult has been hurled and every position has been stated. She lives to insult Christianity and those that sympathize with them. It has to end somewhere and the only way I know is to ignore her and those like her completely. I will never respond to her again no matter what she says. I'm sick of it. She obviously thrives on it.

Probably the right response. I just wonder if she can justify her hate as she argues that part of her dislike of Christians is their hate of others. Seems like she's perpetuating the problem she's criticizing.

 

[JesusWasGay]

You are a very lonely and sad individual. I never addressed you once until you came at me accusing me of being someone I am not. You are the disturbed one and if I may say so, quite paranoid with the accusations and assumptions you continue to toss about.

 

[alexpnz]

1 Timothy 4: 1-5 (KJV)

1: *Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2:*Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

3:*Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

4:*For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

5: For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.




The dietary laws given to the Israelites never applied to gentiles and they don't apply to anyone now.


Now read the verses again.

The Catholic church is condemned.

They forbidden meats and marriage.

How can you have a marriage w/o meats?
The wife has to cook something, no?

 

[Will E Worm]

How can you have a marriage w/o meats?
The wife has to cook something, no?

You need meat.