Study concludes that Hillary Clinton received at least 835,000 votes by non citizens

[Jack Davenport]

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/26/hillary-clinton-received-800000-votes-from-nonciti/

That is of course, you are a political science denier.

 

[Will E Worm]

I bet there are more.

People need to go to jail for this.

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

Lions and Tigers and Bears, Oh MY!!!

 

[xfire]

Fake news?

 

[mongo18]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ources-on-voter-fraud/?utm_term=.d6c55217cf7d - "Old Dominion University professors studied voting participation rates of noncitizens by using data from 2008 and 2010 collected through the Cooperative Congressional Election Studies. Based on results from 339 noncitizen respondents in 2008 and 489 in 2010, researchers found that more than 14 percent of noncitizens in the 2008 and 2010 samples said they were registered to vote. But the researchers warned that “it is impossible to tell for certain whether the noncitizens who responded to the survey were representative of the broader population of noncitizens.”"

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/10/trumps-bogus-voter-fraud-claims/ - "Trump accurately quotes from the blog post. But the authors’ results are contested by a number of academics, including those who administer and manage the data on which it is based."

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261379415001420 - "The perils of cherry picking low frequency events in large sample surveys...The authors show that a recent study purporting to demonstrate that non-citizens in the United States vote is almost certainly flawed."

Idiot.

 

[xfire]

Fake news.

 

[Jack Davenport]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ources-on-voter-fraud/?utm_term=.d6c55217cf7d - "Old Dominion University professors studied voting participation rates of noncitizens by using data from 2008 and 2010 collected through the Cooperative Congressional Election Studies. Based on results from 339 noncitizen respondents in 2008 and 489 in 2010, researchers found that more than 14 percent of noncitizens in the 2008 and 2010 samples said they were registered to vote. But the researchers warned that “it is impossible to tell for certain whether the noncitizens who responded to the survey were representative of the broader population of noncitizens.”"

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/10/trumps-bogus-voter-fraud-claims/ - "Trump accurately quotes from the blog post. But the authors’ results are contested by a number of academics, including those who administer and manage the data on which it is based."

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261379415001420 - "The perils of cherry picking low frequency events in large sample surveys...The authors show that a recent study purporting to demonstrate that non-citizens in the United States vote is almost certainly flawed."

Idiot.

if I have told you once, I have told you a thousand times, fact check.org is alternative facts and is not recognized as reliable. Yet you keep insisting on presenting them..

Fact check.org :1orglaugh

http://www.npr.org/2012/01/10/144974110/political-fact-checking-under-fire Oh my!

Sciencedirect seems to have problems with editorial boards, peer review, as well as ownership. Even journals have been questioned.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsevier


Fake news..


Alternative facts




Dumb fuck

 

[xfire]

You've bean Bannoned.

 

[Jack Davenport]

You've bean Bannoned.

Beats the hell out of being "Tappered"

 

[xfire]

Beats the hell out of being "Tappered"

I like the connotations of both of those. :1orglaugh

 

[mongo18]

if I have told you once, I have told you a thousand times, fact check.org is alternative facts and is not recognized as reliable.

Oh good, this from the guy who once claimed rush limbaugh was a credible source. Here's some more for your stupid ass then.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/10/28/what-other-academics-think-of-the-questionable/201347 - "Jessie Richman and David Earnest, two authors of the study, admitted that their "extrapolation to specific state-level or district-level election outcomes is fraught with substantial uncertainty."... (political scientist) Tesler also wrote that "a number of academics and commentators have already expressed skepticism about the paper's assumptions and conclusions" which seem to be "tenuous at best""

And since you just sourced npr it must be solid - http://www.npr.org/2016/11/28/50362...ems-with-the-trump-teams-voter-fraud-evidence

Alternative facts are the domain of you and your dear orange leader, dipshit.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Oh good, this from the guy who once claimed rush limbaugh was a credible source. Here's some more for your stupid ass then.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/10/28/what-other-academics-think-of-the-questionable/201347 - "Jessie Richman and David Earnest, two authors of the study, admitted that their "extrapolation to specific state-level or district-level election outcomes is fraught with substantial uncertainty."... (political scientist) Tesler also wrote that "a number of academics and commentators have already expressed skepticism about the paper's assumptions and conclusions" which seem to be "tenuous at best""

And since you just sourced npr it must be solid - http://www.npr.org/2016/11/28/50362...ems-with-the-trump-teams-voter-fraud-evidence

Alternative facts are the domain of you and your dear orange leader, dipshit.

I only referenced National Panhandler Radio because it is the only source you can get someone to read to you.

As for facts, here are the ones that you need to be concerned with.

The liberal media is dead.
Trump can circumvent them at will.

He is going to be the most effective and pro business president of my lifetime.

******* immigration is going to be stopped dead in its tracks.

He is going to destroy leftwing ideology in 140 characters or less.

The Supreme Court will be the most conservative of my lifetime.

Grab a blankie ***,
Your life just got a lot more miserable.

 

[meesterperfect]

Looks like damage control to me.
A real investigation would find many more than 800K.

 

[sean miguel]

A real investigation would find many more than 800K.

he's hoping for 3+ million.


regardless, this is sacred. People have literally spilled and shed ***** for that right.

 

[meesterperfect]

Go to arizona and find someone who likes John Mccain.
Good Luck.
If Americans knew how much voter fraud there is the world would implode by everyone talking one giant collective ****.
I hope there is a major investigation and it all gets exposed and fixed.
I doubt it will but it can be. If not we'll just be right back where we've been for decades in a few years.

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

Looks like damage control to me.
A real investigation would find many more than 800K.

And the oompah loompah received 40+ million Putin votes.......

 

[meesterperfect]

And the oompah loompah received 40+ million Putin votes.......

Yes Yes. There were Russians all over that day. I guess that explains why the poll workers called me comrade.
Putin bussed in millions of Russians to vote illegally and infiltrate the polling places.
I think your on to something here. Keep researching I'm sure you'll find more.

And I'm the conspiracy theorist.

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

Yes Yes. There were Russians all over that day. I guess that explains why the poll workers called me comrade.
Putin bussed in millions of Russians to vote illegally and infiltrate the polling places.
I think your on to something here. Keep researching I'm sure you'll find more.

And I'm the conspiracy theorist.

The Internet is a wonderful thing.

 

[Johan]

‘Stop citing our work’: Virginia professor says Trump’s twisting his research on non-citizen voting


A study published more than two years ago on voting activity by non-citizens has thrust a Virginia professor into the national spotlight, but he’s not happy about it.

“We wish Donald Trump would stop citing our work,” said Jesse Richman, an associated professor of political science at Old Dominion University.

The president and his administration have cited Richman’s 2014 study to claim as many as 3 million votes were illegally cast in favor of Hillary Clinton, which would tip the popular vote total in favor of Trump, who of course won the electoral vote.

Trump has said he’ll order a “major investigation” into voter fraud, which he’s been complaining about since before the Nov. 8 election, based on the study and the observations of a friend.

There’s one major problem, though — Richman said Trump, and nearly everyone else, have twisted his conclusions into fantasy.

“First of all, he’s confusing our study with another study, and then he’s flipping ours around and exaggerating the most extreme estimates from it,” Richman told The Virginian-Pilot.

A 2012 study by the Pew Charitable Trusts found that 1.8 million dead voters remained on the rolls and that millions of other voter records were out of date, but that research did not address whether that resulted in fraudulent ballots being cast.

Sean Spicer, the White House spokesman, cited a 14-percent figure that appears to have come from Richman’s 2014 study, titled “Do non-citizens vote in U.S elections?”

Richman and his co-authors examined data from the Cooperative Congressional Election Study, which compiles interviews with tens of thousands of people each year, and concluded that, he told the newspaper, “maybe 14 percent of non-citizens engaged in some type of voting behavior.”

The researchers found that 6.4 percent of non-citizens actually voted in 2008 and another 2.2 percent in 2010.

Those figures sound alarming, but Richman pointed out that non-citizens are just a fraction of the U.S. population, at about 20 million adults.

“They maybe make up — at the very, very high end — 1 percent of an electorate,” Richman said.

Even if non-citizens attempted to vote at the same rate, and every single one of them had voted for Clinton, Richman said they would not have cost Trump the popular vote.

The professor, who describes himself as a political moderate, said nearly everyone has tried to twist the findings to suit their own agenda.

“The right wing saw this as a dramatic confirmation of everything they’d believed and feared about ******* voters supporting Democrats,” he told WAVY-TV. “On the left, they claim the study has no evidentiary basis and it’s been debunked for whatever reason for the other and the truth is in the middle.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/st...-twisting-his-research-on-non-citizen-voting/

So, to my conservatives friends, keep calm, no illegals are stealing your elections




Anyway, for those who are worried about voter fraud...

This is a french ID card. It is issued by the government (throught your local town-hall) to any citizen, on demand (as long as they can provide the city-hall clerk the documents that would prove you're french), for free. If you want to vote, you'll have to show it (or a your passport or your driving licence). Otherwise, you won' be allowed to vote.
This is how we make sure no non-french votes are cast to french elections.

Voter ID laws are fine, you should vote them and implement them, once you made sure every US citizen gets a photo ID, for free.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Why do they have that silly voter ID law Johan?
Are you trying to discourage voting in France?