As God Is My Witness, Ted Cruz Is Reading Sam I Am
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No one can filibuster like "The American *****" Dusty Rhodes. Deal with The Dealer, live and in living color, in the flesh if you we'eeeeeeeeel, baby.
One of the greatest filibusters of all time was when Jesse Helms took to the floor and said "Some of you need to hear this anyway" and proceeded to read the Bible starting with Genesis. And if Green Eggs and Ham is good enough for Rev. Jackson it is good enough for you liberal neanderthals. LOL @ Ted Cruz. Who gives a flying fuck if you take the GOP seriously anyway. You wouldn't support them under any circumstances.
I used to be a staunch Republican, big guy. Just ask my *** who used to fly off the handle every time I praised President Reagan. I used to be one of you and I used to give them the support that you claim is unreachable from me. Think about that.
Ok Mayhem. Honest question. Where did the repubs lose you? And what if anything could they do to win you back?
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I can't speak for Mayhem, but The Great Clinton Cock Hunt of the 90's is where they lost me.
Sorry, but I like using Youtube examples when they say what I want to say without typing it all out.
BC, even though you delight in pointing out how you don't respect me and how my respect is meaningless to you, I will say this with all due respect - you need to pay more attention to what the people you are challenging are saying. Whatever people may think my failings are, I read what they write, I consider their stance, and I take the trouble to remember it for future reference.
My disdain for the Republican Party and the now emergent Tea Party begins with Bush Sr. (although I remained loyal to the GOP then, and all through the Clinton years), and ends with the national catastrophe that was George W. Bush. The Dept. of Homeland Security and its bastard offspring, the TSA is just one of my indictments. For decades, the GOP has bleated and screamed (with me adding my own voice) that the real Depts. of Homeland Security; the CIA, FBI and Dept. of Defense were dangerously underfunded. The **** of 9/11 was the perfect opportunity to rectify this. But no, the small govt. Party decided to add a multi-billion dollar bureaucracy to "keep us safe". The "more freedom for Americans" Party endorsed ******* wiretaps. We waterboard people now. I was watching some show on TRU TV in a casino breakroom where DHS agents are patrolling the Vegas Strip. Homeland security seems to mandate that federal *************** agents roll drunks and break up fights in Sin City. This is what the "common sense in Government" Party mandates as necessary to your safety.
Don't bother reminding me that Democrats were complicit in this. I know this better than you. But who was President and who let this happen? Just like President Clinton should have picked up the phone and ordered, "Get those tanks off that guys lawn", President Bush should have led the way to common sense security based on his Party's guiding principles. Instead he led the charge away from "common sense".
The Republican Party lied about Iraq. And I have every right to be pissed about this because I was one of the ones that helped them repeat these lies. They blew the Afghan invasion to such a degree that I personally think people should be locked up for gross incompetence. And after a lifetime of hearing about how it's the Right that "supports our troops", I have seen damn little evidence of it.
And if the Republicans hadn't already lost me, they lost me (exemplified by the clip above) by the abysmally dismal turnout of idiots, liars, revisionists and demagogues in this last election. I've said it before, for all the hatred that Obama has stirred among the GOP, this was the best you could do? Bachmann, Gingrich, Cain? Santorum? I have spend decades laughing at the Democrats for ever putting Mike Dukakis up as a possible President. You guys filled a fucking stage with people that make him look like a latter-day Lincoln. That is an achievement that I would have never thought possible.
I'm done typing for this post. Again, I've said all this before. And I don't plan on making you repeat everything you've said over and over in this and/or future conversations.
As a liberal collegue said about Mitt Romney last year "He seems to be a sensibln man saying sensible things" The reason that I mention this is for the other bufoons that were standing on the stage with him he was a cut above and the GOP voters got it right. That said, if your disenchantment started with GHWB that is perplexing because from what I can tell he has earned a great deal of respect even from liberal voters. I am guessing that your real problem started during the Clinton presidency with all of the gridlock and the impeackment fiasco. I am with you on GWB his presidency was a clusterfuck and I actually get angry when I see him now and angry at myself for voting for him although I could have never voted for Al Gore. As far as the Dept. Of Homeland Security goes, it was a kneejerk reaction to 911 and is a prime example of why we need to reduce the size of government and not increase it. As for their presence in Las Wages, I am certain that it may be a high target for terrorists and that could at least explain their high visibility there.
I don't **** Romney, but even in my Republican days I can't see myself voting for him. Either way, he ran a bad campaign, he said too many of the wrong things (gaffe or not), he had a **** poor staff...and all these things add up to someone who shouldn't be President.
One of my problems with Bush Sr. was that during Operation D esert Storm, the Saudi government offered $1000 a month to every servicemember deployed to the conflict. Bush turned them down. Admittedly, my indignation comes from my own materialism. But out of 500,000 troops, do you want to tell be that there weren't thousands of honorably serving ****** types who desperately needed the money? The 6 - 9 thousand dollars that these people should have gotten was going to go to their ****, their families and their homes. The President betrayed his own troops while asking the rest of you to "support" us. He also did a singularly bad job of running the war (do a topic search for Schwartkopf for my views on that) and he set up 10+ years of dealing with Iraq that we should/could have dealt with in 10 days.
As far as the Clinton impeachment thing, I was a Republican at the time. I wanted to see him impeached and to this day don't consider him to be a very good President. One way of putting it, if it was me who ran for Prez in '08 and for re-election in 2012, I wouldn't have let Bill Clinton within 500 miles of my campaign. Either of them. And I would have told my own pundits to shut up about it or find another job.
To continue to answer your previous question, the voter registration thing enrages me. Feel free to look through my post history, I have railed about it my share of times. And the fact of the matter is clear, the "freedom for all Americans" Party pushes for voter registration simply because it makes it easier for them to win elections, not to combat a voter fraud problem that doesn't exist. When I was a supporter of the GOP, I bought what they sold about freedom.
Also do a Google search on the Texas GOP and their thoughts on teaching ******** the art of critical thinking. Not to mention Creationism.
The list goes on and on. They are not the Republican Party of 20 years ago and all their stated ideals have fallen like a turd in a punchbowl.
One of my problems with Bush Sr. was that during Operation D esert Storm, the Saudi government offered $1000 a month to every servicemember deployed to the conflict. Bush turned them down. Admittedly, my indignation comes from my own materialism. But out of 500,000 troops, do you want to tell be that there weren't thousands of honorably serving ****** types who desperately needed the money? The 6 - 9 thousand dollars that these people should have gotten was going to go to their ****, their families and their homes. The President betrayed his own troops while asking the rest of you to "support" us. He also did a singularly bad job of running the war (do a topic search for Schwartkopf for my views on that) and he set up 10+ years of dealing with Iraq that we should/could have dealt with in 10 days.
As far as the Clinton impeachment thing, I was a Republican at the time. I wanted to see him impeached and to this day don't consider him to be a very good President. One way of putting it, if it was me who ran for Prez in '08 and for re-election in 2012, I wouldn't have let Bill Clinton within 500 miles of my campaign. Either of them. And I would have told my own pundits to shut up about it or find another job.
To continue to answer your previous question, the voter registration thing enrages me. Feel free to look through my post history, I have railed about it my share of times. And the fact of the matter is clear, the "freedom for all Americans" Party pushes for voter registration simply because it makes it easier for them to win elections, not to combat a voter fraud problem that doesn't exist. When I was a supporter of the GOP, I bought what they sold about freedom.
Also do a Google search on the Texas GOP and their thoughts on teaching ******** the art of critical thinking. Not to mention Creationism.
The list goes on and on. They are not the Republican Party of 20 years ago and all their stated ideals have fallen like a turd in a punchbowl.
Whenever I think of Ted Cruz, one word comes to mind and that word is narcissism.
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I'm not your witness.
BC, unlike many people from your side of the aisle (on this board), I read your question and gave you the courtesy of a direct and sincere response. Twice. As you and everyone else here knows, the Right-wing around here has a habit of running away when confronted with their own beliefs. And on the rare occasion that they do answer, it's usually with a load of tripe that has nothing to do with the question or the debate.
So is that it? Did me respecting (there's that word again) you with a direct reply end the conversation? Or shall we just wait until the next thread gets started and say all the same things all over again?
Thanks to Texas for yet another A-hole on capitol hill.
To accuse me of cutting and running from my question is a bit misguided because first while I do remember hearing something about the Saudis offering compensation to American soldiers I did not serve and cannot begin to make a case for or against it. The only reason that I can think of as to why president Bush declined compensation was that he didn't want soldiers to be considered mercenaries for hire although I personally think it would have been fine to accept it. Frankly I am a bit surprised that your main beef with republicans are The Department of Homeland Security and voter registration. I asked a question as to why and you gave an answer and because I am not a soldier I felt that I was not in a position to challenge it. I expressed my feelings on Homeland Security and the possible reason for their presence in Vegas but you didn't respond to that either. As for voters I think there is far more potential for ***** by not taking measures to insure that the person casting that vote is the proper one exercising that privilige. The mindset that someone should be able to go to a polling place, give a name and cast a vote is just ludicrous. We have to identify ourselves in many aspects of our lives. Voting should be at the top of the list.
I wasn't accusing you of anything. I was pointing to an ongoing and obvious trend and hoping this wasn't the latest example of it.
I also included the points made on the videos, which I have expressed myself before the show they were on existed.
Your points about voter fraud would be valid, if there was such a thing as voter fraud. There isn't. "Potential for *****" is not *****. It's potential. That's not good enough.And if there is a concern, it's up to the people with that concern to suggest a way to address it without ********* the most fundamental right that an American has. It would also help if someone explained how voter fraud works. Who exactly is it that is committing voter fraud? To what end? We can barely get "legal" Americans to the polls, who is this legion of fraudulent voters that you're terrified of? And who exactly are they committing this fraud on behalf of? I answered yours, please answer mine because I am genuinely interested in getting to the bottom of this.
^^^ (I'm coming back to this after typing the rest of this post) You have answered your own question to me. Republicans are either for freedom, democracy and civil liberty or you're not. All three are binary states. You either have all of them, or you have none of them. How do you reconcile being a part of such a flag waving Party when they willfully attempt to disenfranchise real Americans because they belong to a demographic that doesn't tend to vote your way? This was stated in no uncertain terms by the Party that you represent. This wasn't/isn't about fraud. This is about keeping poor blacks from being able to vote in their own country.
I already voiced my opinion on DHS patrolling Vegas. It's bullshit. And again, what you are paying to have federal agents to roust drunks outside of Ballys is what you are not paying the CIA, FBI and DoD to keep you safe in your own country.
Your D esert Storm comment was correct. Except for the fact that soldiers are mercenaries. Try running a military without paying them or offering college benefits.
Honestly, when it all come down to it, I'm more of a Republican than anyone you voted for in the last election.
I also included the points made on the videos, which I have expressed myself before the show they were on existed.
Your points about voter fraud would be valid, if there was such a thing as voter fraud. There isn't. "Potential for *****" is not *****. It's potential. That's not good enough.And if there is a concern, it's up to the people with that concern to suggest a way to address it without ********* the most fundamental right that an American has. It would also help if someone explained how voter fraud works. Who exactly is it that is committing voter fraud? To what end? We can barely get "legal" Americans to the polls, who is this legion of fraudulent voters that you're terrified of? And who exactly are they committing this fraud on behalf of? I answered yours, please answer mine because I am genuinely interested in getting to the bottom of this.
^^^ (I'm coming back to this after typing the rest of this post) You have answered your own question to me. Republicans are either for freedom, democracy and civil liberty or you're not. All three are binary states. You either have all of them, or you have none of them. How do you reconcile being a part of such a flag waving Party when they willfully attempt to disenfranchise real Americans because they belong to a demographic that doesn't tend to vote your way? This was stated in no uncertain terms by the Party that you represent. This wasn't/isn't about fraud. This is about keeping poor blacks from being able to vote in their own country.
I already voiced my opinion on DHS patrolling Vegas. It's bullshit. And again, what you are paying to have federal agents to roust drunks outside of Ballys is what you are not paying the CIA, FBI and DoD to keep you safe in your own country.
Your D esert Storm comment was correct. Except for the fact that soldiers are mercenaries. Try running a military without paying them or offering college benefits.
Honestly, when it all come down to it, I'm more of a Republican than anyone you voted for in the last election.
Tell me how in the hell producing a photo ID is a ********* of their rights? These same poor people need a social security number and card to conduct the most basic of transactions in today's world. Let the government issue I.D.cards I don't give a fuck but identify the person wanting to vote with the registration ledger. There are 11 million illegals in this country and just as many here on legal visas that are still not qualified to cast a vote that could and CAN by showing up as a warm body and a name. The fuck outta here with voter fraud doesn't exist.
The Brennan Center? their credibility has been called into to question more than once and by real non partisans. I guess I could sit here for 3 hours in a cut and paste war but I simply refuse to do it. Your going to have to do better than an organization that George Soros funded with 7 million dollars and is affiliated with the bastion of conservatism NYU. For every article you post touting organizations such as that there are 3 shooting holes through it. I am sorry but you just lost all credibility that I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt in having. Sell that **** to somebody else.
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