Ann Coulter: *** Crime Is 'Demographic Problem'

With this bitch it's not a matter of right or wrong it's that she only speaks to draw attention to her books or to get her face on tv she doesn't give 2 shits about right or wrong.

That very well may be. Nonetheless, it doesn't make what she's saying any less true.
 
You mean like Obama/Biden, also?

With these two its about convictions not profit. If they want to make a run at *** control please have at it I believe they will not try to directly circumvent the Constitution and if they what they come up with ******** the Constitution its the Supreme courts job to shoot it down. With Rush, Coulter, or Beck its noise to generate profit they couldn't give a **** how this country is run as long as there is ratings, sales, and/or profits.
The difference is plain as night and day.
 
What I see here is a lot dismissive derision, which is pretty much to be expected from this group overall given the topic at discussion, though what I don't see here is anyone actually contending that she is wrong...

Criticizing people for derisively dismissing a bitch that makes a living off of dismissive derision? Besmirched.
 
I wish she would really STFU! Yes in poor areas where they could be a high rate of minorities there can be a lot of *** ********, but what has been making the news and what gets the most news attention is white males from 18-25 yrs old committing mass ******* and shooting up places.
 
Oh, right, I forgot, its not crime, its poverty. I always get those two concepts confused.
I never said that, your twisting my argument in the way you like them.
My point is that crimes happens mosty (but not only) because of poverty and **** background. There more crimes in the Bronx than in Beverly Hills becazuse the Bronx is poorer than Beverly Hills. And yes people living there happen to be black so blacks commit more crimes than whites but they do because they live in poorer places than whites.
Off course *************** ****** must fight crime but fighting crim without improving these people living conditionswill turn into some kind of ******* of Sisyphus
And for future reference, it would be in your best interest not to start a post with "If you're to say such things, you have to bring proof of it," immediately followed with your own claim, qualified with the statement "I can't prove it but I'm pretty sure..."
I was making an hypothesis so saying "I can prove it" was a way for me to say that I think things are this way way but I don't firmly affirm they do are this way.
Also, there is proof. Accounting solely for race, blacks commit disproportionately more *** crimes than any other racial demographic. You can excuse it like everyone on the left is wont to do or you can just look at the data and accept it but either way, its a fact.
Out of their context, datas can be used to prove anything, even the most stupid arguments.
Ex: During the last decade, wihich country was the most involved in wars ? The US. Based on that data, I could say that the US are the most agressive and violent country in the world.
But when you look at the context, you realise that the US have been involved in wars because they've been attacked by Al Qaïda, because Saddam was a threat for National Security and he was ********* his people, because Ghadaffi had promised "rivers of *****" to the rebels, etc...
 
Money is always a problem for me. No matter how much I work and go without I never have enough.
every time I go get the mail I feel nervous, and I've put nothing on credit for over 10 years.
Yep, I'm always damn near broke.
But I don't go out stalking and robbing people. If I ever do I hope someone shoots me in the face.
The point, there is no excuse for committing these crimes against innocent people you don't even know.
( this comes from a person who spent 2 hours tied up while some thieves rubbed the barrel of a *** against the back of my head and sticking a ***** in my face..........because they were poor, they needed money.)
There is no excuse for that stuff.
So you can stick the " Well theyre poor" defense up your ****** arse.
Would anybody feel that way still if it was their ******, wife or ***** who got beat and robbed?
Sadly, probably.
 
Money is always a problem for me. No matter how much I work and go without I never have enough.
every time I go get the mail I feel nervous, and I've put nothing on credit for over 10 years.
Yep, I'm always damn near broke.
But I don't go out stalking and robbing people. If I ever do I hope someone shoots me in the face.
The point, there is no excuse for committing these crimes against innocent people you don't even know.
( this comes from a person who spent 2 hours tied up while some thieves rubbed the barrel of a *** against the back of my head and sticking a ***** in my face..........because they were poor, they needed money.)
There is no excuse for that stuff.
So you can stick the " Well theyre poor" defense up your ****** arse.
Would anybody feel that way still if it was their ******, wife or ***** who got beat and robbed?
Sadly, probably.
I never said poverty was an excuse for crime, I said it was a cause.
 
We're talking about 2 different kinds of crimes here. Muggings and robberies take things away from people and COULD be for economic reasons. Not always but some of it could be attributed to that. We also have the drive by. Shootings at a basketball court. Gang **** where bullets fly. Everyday citizens walking to the store or standing at a bus stop get hit with bullets. Your local news has this **** on several times a week. Nothing economic about those.

So now we need to protect our schools. Sure, put in a plan of action and I'm sure it will work. What about the other **** that I mentioned above? The more often places that people get hit with bullets. Cops in the schools going to have any impact on that? Looks like a case of political grandstanding to me.
 
We're talking about 2 different kinds of crimes here. Muggings and robberies take things away from people and COULD be for economic reasons. Not always but some of it could be attributed to that. We also have the drive by. Shootings at a basketball court. Gang **** where bullets fly. Everyday citizens walking to the store or standing at a bus stop get hit with bullets. Your local news has this **** on several times a week. Nothing economic about those.
These crimes are commited by gangs and mafia.
What are the very basics sources of profit for gangs ad mafia ? *****
Why do some people sell ***** ? Because they can't find a job that could provide them enough money to lve decently or because a legal low-paidf job would pay much less and be much harder than drugh dealing.
 
These crimes are commited by gangs and mafia.
What are the very basics sources of profit for gangs ad mafia ? *****
Why do some people sell ***** ? Because they can't find a job that could provide them enough money to lve decently or because a legal low-paidf job would pay much less and be much harder than drugh dealing.

No, you are wrong. There are many families that have struggles living in poverty that raise good ********. Many more than you would like to give credit to. *** or *** may have shitty jobs but yet deliver something to their ******** to help them rise above. They make them go to school and do their homework. Teach them good values. Monitor where they go and who their friends are. Protect them from what is out there in the streets. That doesn't take money.
 
There is much less violent crime in places like Appalachia Hillbillyland than there is in inner city ghettos. Hillbillies are so poor they have to eat the snakes they raise up in the air. ******** Strychnine is probably safer than their water as well.
 
What I see here is a lot dismissive derision, which is pretty much to be expected from this group overall given the topic at discussion, though what I don't see here is anyone actually contending that she is wrong...

I'm going to ignore this until one of the conservatives replies to the article Michael Moore wrote about false patriotism that received nothing but dismissive derision from the right-wingers.
 
I'm going to ignore this until one of the conservatives replies to the article Michael Moore wrote about false patriotism that received nothing but dismissive derision from the right-wingers.

I may have missed this one - could you re-post or direct me. Sorry to ask for duplicating the effort.

Thanks
 
Since it would point a finger at her (and the GOP's) base these days, I'm sure she wouldn't want to touch this third rail, but I'll go ahead and state a fact: violent crime is not so much a demographic problem, in the way that she's trying to state it. It is actually (factually) more of a socio-economic problem. The things that violent criminals tend to have in common, much more so than race, is that they are almost always people of lower educational levels and people who are at the lower end of the income distribution.

I read a study several years ago which documented this phenomenon over time. It documented the socio-economic status of various transplants, racial and ethnic groups (Blacks, Whites, Asians, Italians, Irish, Jews, etc.) in America from the late 1800's forward. And the one thing that stood out was that in times when these groups had heavy concentrations of lower earning, less educated people, their contribution to violent crime was always much higher. It's not that hard to find evidence that the very same thing is still true. The violent crime prison population is primarily made up of poorly educated, lower earning people.... race, ethnicity and/or religion are secondary factors.

But to actually post that fact might mean Ann's listener base in West Virgina, Mississippi and Alabama might plummet! Hey wait a minute, that skinny bitch is uh talkin' 'bout us now!!! :ignore2:

Stats (mis)used by people with an agenda is what gives stats a bad name.
 
I never said that, your twisting my argument in the way you like them.
My point is that crimes happens mosty (but not only) because of poverty and **** background. There more crimes in the Bronx than in Beverly Hills becazuse the Bronx is poorer than Beverly Hills. And yes people living there happen to be black so blacks commit more crimes than whites but they do because they live in poorer places than whites.

Actually, there are more Hispanics living in Bronx then African Americans. I think the majority of A-A's live in Brooklyn.
 
No, you are wrong. There are many families that have struggles living in poverty that raise good ********. Many more than you would like to give credit to. *** or *** may have shitty jobs but yet deliver something to their ******** to help them rise above. They make them go to school and do their homework. Teach them good values. Monitor where they go and who their friends are. Protect them from what is out there in the streets. That doesn't take money.

Unless **** happen to get lured into organized crime but that's another story.
 
Unless **** happen to get lured into organized crime but that's another story.
An often repeated story, sadly.

No, you are wrong. There are many families that have struggles living in poverty that raise good ********. Many more than you would like to give credit to.
And many that don't. You're right, of course, to say that it can be done without money. That doesn't change the fact that this is mostly an issue concerning money...

Since it would point a finger at her (and the GOP's) base these days, I'm sure she wouldn't want to touch this third rail, but I'll go ahead and state a fact: violent crime is not so much a demographic problem, in the way that she's trying to state it. It is actually (factually) more of a socio-economic problem. The things that violent criminals tend to have in common, much more so than race, is that they are almost always people of lower educational levels and people who are at the lower end of the income distribution.
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Stats (mis)used by people with an agenda is what gives stats a bad name.
That's pretty much all there is to it. The reason there's derision when someone tries to bring this up as a race issue is because it isn't a race issue.
 
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