Women are not attracted to penis

I think its with most women, its not about the material stuff or "cars and money"...its not even about needing to be "taken care of". Most women these days make their own money - I know I sure as hell do, and I don't need a man to take care of me. But in saying that, the men I date need to be able to take care of themselves too, and have a serious career that will take him (and potentially a ****** if we wound up together) places. Know what I mean? I don't date men hoping they'll spoil the **** out of me, and I don't need to date guys who drive a Bentley. But a guy who has a legit career, who has a savings account for an emergency, is able to take two weeks off every year to go on vacay with me, owns his own car and is financially responsible enough to have a decent credit score ISN'T asking or expecting too much IMO. Its all about being mature and responsible, and having goals and motivation to better himself. Anything less than that just isn't sexy to me, sowwy.

Very true
 
I think its with most women, its not about the material stuff or "cars and money"...its not even about needing to be "taken care of". Most women these days make their own money - I know I sure as hell do, and I don't need a man to take care of me. But in saying that, the men I date need to be able to take care of themselves too, and have a serious career that will take him (and potentially a ****** if we wound up together) places. Know what I mean? I don't date men hoping they'll spoil the **** out of me, and I don't need to date guys who drive a Bentley. But a guy who has a legit career, who has a savings account for an emergency, is able to take two weeks off every year to go on vacay with me, owns his own car and is financially responsible enough to have a decent credit score ISN'T asking or expecting too much IMO. Its all about being mature and responsible, and having goals and motivation to better himself. Anything less than that just isn't sexy to me, sowwy.

No need to be sorry but I guess what I'm driving at. It's all a ploy to weed out candidates from there herd. Everyone imagines amore as following your heart but then the pocket book comes in.

Love isn't unconditional. Finding a mate we use tactics like "huge penis" "blonde hair" "big boobs" or whatever your fetish is to eliminate people from the potential list. Same thing with not wanting a guy who isn't financially stable. I'm not saying it's wrong but I think that's just what it is.

For some people they see things like age being a barrier to love; others say it's just a number. I imagine many feel the same about money. In the end it's superficial just like anything else.

Because in all honesty you can pick and choose what you're sexually interested in. Given the right conditions and experiences you can find interest in many things. Like people who enjoy being dominated by someone else. I don't think they typically turned to that first then when they hit puberty. They learned about it and tried it etc...

Once people find a system or pattern that works for them they don't deviate and reinforce it in their mind. I'd like to think if I found the right woman I wouldn't let money get in the way. Although I can't make concrete predictions.
 

SpexyAshleigh

Official Checked Star Member
No need to be sorry but I guess what I'm driving at. It's all a ploy to weed out candidates from there herd. Everyone imagines amore as following your heart but then the pocket book comes in.

Love isn't unconditional. Finding a mate we use tactics like "huge penis" "blonde hair" "big boobs" or whatever your fetish is to eliminate people from the potential list. Same thing with not wanting a guy who isn't financially stable. I'm not saying it's wrong but I think that's just what it is.

For some people they see things like age being a barrier to love; others say it's just a number. I imagine many feel the same about money. In the end it's superficial just like anything else.

Because in all honesty you can pick and choose what you're sexually interested in. Given the right conditions and experiences you can find interest in many things. Like people who enjoy being dominated by someone else. I don't think they typically turned to that first then when they hit puberty. They learned about it and tried it etc...

Once people find a system or pattern that works for them they don't deviate and reinforce it in their mind. I'd like to think if I found the right woman I wouldn't let money get in the way. Although I can't make concrete predictions.

"amore" only gets you so far though. If love were the only deciding factor in relationships, then women would all stay with their *******, and people would wind up settling....finances is the biggest cause of divorce, so if you eliminate the financial burden/stress/whatever from a relationship, it inevitably helps make it a healthier relationship. Poor finances is just one of those things that ****** a marriage, no matter how strong a couple is, so it makes sense that alot of women seek out those who are financially savvy. Marriage isn't just about love- its about sharing a life, all aspects of a life, and finances are one of "legs" of the table...if it falters, then the rest of the table falls down, so to speak.
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
Marriage and building a life together REQUIRES money. You can't buy a house, take trips together, have and raise ******** without money. So why would I date a guy who has a **** job or NO job, just because he has a great personality? Doesn't make sense. Deadbeats are still deadbeats, regardless of how great they are as a person. So- guys who have their **** together and are motivated to provide themselves and their families with an income are sexy- end of story :)

You guys wouldn't find a woman who has no aspirations sexy either. Who would want to date a prissy princess who feels she doesn't have to work for a living and wants you to pay her way? Its a two way street...people who are lazy or don't care about their financial well being flat out suck.

What about people like me who aren't looking for marriage, ******** or even vacations? I'm just a college guy who wants a relationship. I could care less if a girl was as broke as can be; if I liked her and thought she was attractive (and she felt the same about me), I would date her.

I certainly understand the need to worry about finances and "having **** together" when it comes to building a ******. But I'm not 35, I'm 20. And I wish I didn't have to feel as if I needed money, a car and other fancy **** to impress girls.


Grower_boy has you...touché. :D

A guy who has a job should be good enough or someone learning a trade or something. Someone who is just looking to be "taken care of" has ***** issues.

His "stuff together" means money. :tongue: You either love the person for the person and nothing else or it's all a lie.
 
"amore" only gets you so far though. If love were the only deciding factor in relationships, then women would all stay with their *******, and people would wind up settling....finances is the biggest cause of divorce, so if you eliminate the financial burden/stress/whatever from a relationship, it inevitably helps make it a healthier relationship. Poor finances is just one of those things that ****** a marriage, no matter how strong a couple is, so it makes sense that alot of women seek out those who are financially savvy. Marriage isn't just about love- its about sharing a life, all aspects of a life, and finances are one of "legs" of the table...if it falters, then the rest of the table falls down, so to speak.

IF and only IF you value money so highly.

The principle requires you to ascribe to it before it becomes true. For instance; people who are in a hippie lifestyle or are working poor and live in a small trailer etc... would their love or connection be lessened because they are financially unsound in comparison to others? Because they live on handouts or pan handling or barely work? I'd say no.

Financial stability is subjective. What does "stable" mean? Living within your means. What are your means? Means are what you earn; but what you earn is based on your job. Theoretically according to your idea a man could make as little as 5k a year and if he doesn't squander it then he's eligible. I find most women concerned with cash wouldn't find that to be enough.

You mentioned you want a man that can take vacation to be with you. That's a luxury for many people and in many careers it's not even allotted for. So it's not just a job it's also vacation time, it's also goals in life it's also overall fiscal responsibility and so on... it sounds like you want a book keeper that gets paid well, works towards a raise and takes time off.

I also can't make the leap from not having wealth to spousal *****. If anything struggling to make ends meet COULD bring a couple closer together. ***** however is ***** and imo doesn't equate to this conversation because it's a systematic damaging of an individual or even individuals. It's in my mind akin to saying: "Money matters in relationships because if there weren't some guidelines beyond love people would stay in relationships where they stab each other with knives."

Money is a big player in relationships true but it's mainly imo because it's not discussed before marriage and marriage itself is a farce imo. Love however doesn't require marriage. Perhaps if people knew going in that one person can't be trusted with credit cards or join accounts they would plan around that and not ruin their 10 yr. marriage down the line.
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
Financial stability is subjective. What does "stable" mean? Living within your means. What are your means? Means are what you earn; but what you earn is based on your job. Theoretically according to your idea a man could make as little as 5k a year and if he doesn't squander it then he's eligible. I find most women concerned with cash wouldn't find that to be enough.

It means lots and lots of money. Who cares if the husband is gone all the time I can buy lots of things. :1orglaugh
 
It means lots and lots of money. Who cares if the husband is gone all the time I can buy lots of things. :1orglaugh

You look so pretty in your new hat! Don't tell him how much it cost. :1orglaugh
 
Women, as a whole, do not give a **** about penises. Sure, there are some women that love big dicks, but I'm talking about generally. There are some guys that don't give a crap about the size of a woman's tits....but on the whole...they're rare.

So, yeah...women don't give a crap about penises. Want proof?

How many websites are dedicated to things like the size of a woman's tits? And how many websites cater to women who want to check out straight guys' penises? If women really cared about this, there'd be porn out the ass for it.
 
And one more bit of proof...

Case #1-Girl with nice tits texts a pic of her tits to a guy that she suspects may be in to her...

Case #2-Guy with big penis texts a pic of his dick to a girl that he suspects may be in to him...

Are the reactions by the receiver the same in each case?
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
How many websites are dedicated to things like the size of a woman's tits? And how many websites cater to women who want to check out straight guys' penises? If women really cared about this, there'd be porn out the ass for it.

Females see enough of it on regular porn.

Guys buy porn. It's cheaper than dating. :1orglaugh

Do women watch porn as much as men? On the rise.
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Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
I definitely know what you mean. If and when I decide that I want to get married and all, I would view it as my responsibility to provide for the ******. It's just that right now, I feel like doing well in school is my priority, and moving forward with goals and dreams is all determined by how well I perform. I just wish the cars and money type stuff wouldn't matter so much at this age.

You keep doing what you're doing. Don't let anyone or anything pull you off that path. You're 20 now? When I was 20 I was pretty much in the same boat. I don't come from a rich ******. My *** owned a **** and some land where I grew up and I never went without. But we weren't "rich" - not like some of the **** I went to college with, whose **** bought them new BMW's as high school graduation presents. Without boring you with my life story, let's just say that one of the first girls to break my heart while I was in college wound up with a guy who played pro football after college (for all of one season!). She chose what she thought was the "better catch". Not that I was Prince Charming, but certainly on paper, within a couple of years after school, my income and net worth easily dwarfed his... what with him working a factory job after they moved back from (got run out of) San Diego vs. me co-owning a mortgage company and a shitload of real estate by then. When people are just starting out, all you're doing is rolling the dice if you think you can pick a winner vs. a loser at that age. Some winners turn into losers and some losers turn into winners.

I'm trying to see everybody's point of view on this. Spexy is one of the more thoughtful people on this board and I think she's saying that a guy doesn't have to be Mr. Moneybags to get her attention, but he has to have something going on. And that's cool. But to your point, as I was once pretty much in your boat many moons ago, any girl who tries to judge a guy by what she can see in his driveway or what's on his wrist... what's in the driveway or on the wrist today may be subject to removal by the bank tomorrow. And when I was younger, if I sensed that a girl was on my jock because of my car, watch or whatever, I was going to dog her. In my (rather twisted) sense of the world back then, she was a whore and would/should be treated as such. Michael Milken, Donald Trump and the fictional Gordon Gekko were my heroes... so what does that tell you? If I met a girl in Georgetown at Winston's on a Friday night, I'd gladly take her to Ocean City on a Saturday/Sunday weekend get-away. She was my "entertainment"... and that's all she was. She was only with me because her friends saw me pull up in a new Jag and I was wearing a Rolex. But since there'd be 20 other girls in the bar next weekend, just like her, there wasn't any chance or need for me to call her back again, was there? So I was a superficial, shitty person and she was a superficial, shitty person too. And superficial, shitty people attract other superficial, shitty people. Don't be a superficial, shitty person, Grower. It took me years to rid myself of being like that. Now I'm with a pretty (but not gorgeous) girl who has two Masters degrees, but she doesn't make much money working with special needs ****. She gets by and she's not consumed with how much I make or what I have. If I buy her something nice, it's not because she expects it, it's because I like her. I know I'm not buying her affections and she knows I respect her too much to try. I'm jaded and fairly paranoid now, so that (to me) makes her a trustworthy, good catch - plus she can cook! Considering how I've lived most of my adult life, I probably don't deserve someone like her... but I'm happy to have her.

Keep doing what you're doing, young dude! If you're not consumed by money, cars or whatever, then a girl who is, isn't the one for you anyway. The right one is out there. Trust me on that one.

Oh yeah, and to get back on topic, don't send her pictures of your dick. It'll either offend her... or you'll find out it's a dude and then you've got a gay stalker to deal with. :nono:
 

SpexyAshleigh

Official Checked Star Member
You keep doing what you're doing. Don't let anyone or anything pull you off that path. You're 20 now? When I was 20 I was pretty much in the same boat. I don't come from a rich ******. My *** owned a **** and some land where I grew up and I never went without. But we weren't "rich" - not like some of the **** I went to college with, whose **** bought them new BMW's as high school graduation presents. Without boring you with my life story, let's just say that one of the first girls to break my heart while I was in college wound up with a guy who played pro football after college (for all of one season!). She chose what she thought was the "better catch". Not that I was Prince Charming, but certainly on paper, within a couple of years after school, my income and net worth easily dwarfed his... what with him working a factory job after they moved back from (got run out of) San Diego vs. me co-owning a mortgage company and a shitload of real estate by then. When people are just starting out, all you're doing is rolling the dice if you think you can pick a winner vs. a loser at that age. Some winners turn into losers and some losers turn into winners.

I'm trying to see everybody's point of view on this. Spexy is one of the more thoughtful people on this board and I think she's saying that a guy doesn't have to be Mr. Moneybags to get her attention, but he has to have something going on. And that's cool. But to your point, as I was once pretty much in your boat many moons ago, any girl who tries to judge a guy by what she can see in his driveway or what's on his wrist... what's in the driveway or on the wrist today may be subject to removal by the bank tomorrow. And when I was younger, if I sensed that a girl was on my jock because of my car, watch or whatever, I was going to dog her. In my (rather twisted) sense of the world back then, she was a whore and would/should be treated as such. Michael Milken, Donald Trump and the fictional Gordon Gekko were my heroes... so what does that tell you? If I met a girl in Georgetown at Winston's on a Friday night, I'd gladly take her to Ocean City on a Saturday/Sunday weekend get-away. She was my "entertainment"... and that's all she was. She was only with me because her friends saw me pull up in a new Jag and I was wearing a Rolex. But since there'd be 20 other girls in the bar next weekend, just like her, there wasn't any chance or need for me to call her back again, was there? So I was a superficial, shitty person and she was a superficial, shitty person too. And superficial, shitty people attract other superficial, shitty people. Don't be a superficial, shitty person, Grower. It took me years to rid myself of being like that. Now I'm with a pretty (but not gorgeous) girl who has two Masters degrees, but she doesn't make much money working with special needs ****. She gets by and she's not consumed with how much I make or what I have. If I buy her something nice, it's not because she expects it, it's because I like her. I know I'm not buying her affections and she knows I respect her too much to try. I'm jaded and fairly paranoid now, so that (to me) makes her a trustworthy, good catch - plus she can cook! Considering how I've lived most of my adult life, I probably don't deserve someone like her... but I'm happy to have her.

Keep doing what you're doing, young dude! If you're not consumed by money, cars or whatever, then a girl who is, isn't the one for you anyway. The right one is out there. Trust me on that one.

Oh yeah, and to get back on topic, don't send her pictures of your dick. It'll either offend her... or you'll find out it's a dude and then you've got a gay stalker to deal with. :nono:

exactly what I'm trying to say. I'm not saying you have to be a millionaire, or even be making six figures...but you have to be able to support yourself, and be able to support a ****** if it came to that. Sorry, if you aren't making enough to support a baby should one arrive, then you're not longterm relationship material. ****** is important, and providing for said ****** is important too. And school IS important...if you're working hard at it, its a great asset. I'm not saying theres anything wrong with being in school..its a great thing. I'm just saying that if you're the kind of guy who's content flipping burgers and not doing anything else with your life...then thats not the person I wanna be with. If you have passion for your career and continually move forward and set goals and work towards them...then be whatever you want. I'd rather date a successful plumber than a lazy CEO of a company. Know what I mean? I sincerely hope I'm not coming off as a golddigger because I'm not. I just like to know that whoever I'm in a serious relationship with has my back in case god forbid I get sick, or get pregnant, or whatever. **** happens and if I don't have financial support IF (and inevitably when, because **** always happens eventually) I need it, then thats not someone I feel secure with. Ya know?
 
I think the reason women get dogged on for liking guys on financial grounds is because it circumvents personality. Love is supposed to be unconditional in a perfect world right? Money is about as conditional as it gets.

It sends the message she'd rather be taken care of then connect with someone. That someone typically being the guy who's nice to women and trying to get noticed but doesn't make the 8 figures to even get looked at. It breeds bitterness.

Also men tire of beauty; it's a big deal for a while but it fades. Why do you see so many women that have been cheated on complaining that he cheated on her with a women that is "less" attractive?

I don't think the desire for money is as temporary for many; it also denotes a desire for something outside of the person themselves. Lust for beauty is at least directed at a person. Lust for the material imo is a little bit more shallow.


I've lingered here for quite some time and for my first post I just wanted to say that I agree with everything you've had to say in this thread. It's probably the most intelligent thing I've ever read on here and it was all very well said. Also Jana Defi is my favorite babe ever.
 
exactly what I'm trying to say. I'm not saying you have to be a millionaire, or even be making six figures...but you have to be able to support yourself, and be able to support a ****** if it came to that. Sorry, if you aren't making enough to support a baby should one arrive, then you're not longterm relationship material. ****** is important, and providing for said ****** is important too. And school IS important...if you're working hard at it, its a great asset. I'm not saying theres anything wrong with being in school..its a great thing. I'm just saying that if you're the kind of guy who's content flipping burgers and not doing anything else with your life...then thats not the person I wanna be with. If you have passion for your career and continually move forward and set goals and work towards them...then be whatever you want. I'd rather date a successful plumber than a lazy CEO of a company. Know what I mean? I sincerely hope I'm not coming off as a golddigger because I'm not. I just like to know that whoever I'm in a serious relationship with has my back in case god forbid I get sick, or get pregnant, or whatever. **** happens and if I don't have financial support IF (and inevitably when, because **** always happens eventually) I need it, then thats not someone I feel secure with. Ya know?

So he has to have a job that can support you and a *****? That nixes most 20 to 30 year olds right there. Unless they have landed a stellar job out the gate. Its' been estimated that a person living ALONE has to make at least 15 bucks an hour to support just themselves.
 
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