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Your thoughts on Micheal Moore's "Sicko"?
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I just thought I'm glad I live in Holland. The healthcare system here got reformed about two years back and it works not perfect, but what I've seen from Sicko way better than the American system.
It's quite simple: in the Netherlands you have to duty to insure yourself. If your income is below a certain limit the governement will pay a fair amount for you if. You gotta apply to get that money at the Dutch ERS. This instance can -off course- check if your income is that low you indeed have the right on government aid.
People that earn enough have to insure themselves at one of the many -commercially operated- companies. These companies can't refuse people and have to compete and even challenges hospitals to give cheap careand have short waiting lists. If not, they buy healtcare abroad (mostly Germany and Belgium).
It's not only way more effective than the American way, from what I've seen it costs -relatively- way less tax payers money than in the US.
It's quite simple: in the Netherlands you have to duty to insure yourself. If your income is below a certain limit the governement will pay a fair amount for you if. You gotta apply to get that money at the Dutch ERS. This instance can -off course- check if your income is that low you indeed have the right on government aid.
People that earn enough have to insure themselves at one of the many -commercially operated- companies. These companies can't refuse people and have to compete and even challenges hospitals to give cheap careand have short waiting lists. If not, they buy healtcare abroad (mostly Germany and Belgium).
It's not only way more effective than the American way, from what I've seen it costs -relatively- way less tax payers money than in the US.
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Re: Your thoughts on Micheal Moore's "Sicko"?
Impressionable people x :angels: b e l i e v e :angels:
Additionally, resources are somewhat limited for those "involved type" of treatments ie - cancer treatment & ops. etc.
Time is of the essence but we'll place you on a waiting list.
Impressionable people x :angels: b e l i e v e :angels:
Additionally, resources are somewhat limited for those "involved type" of treatments ie - cancer treatment & ops. etc.
Time is of the essence but we'll place you on a waiting list.
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If Germany suffices... I pay ca. 14 % of my gross income for health care. The average German worker has a tax and social security burden of ca. 35 % of gross income. (income tax, health care, pension funds, etc.)
No complaints here.
Taxes are income dependent. I got no clue as what I gotta pay. I only notice what I actually get. I think the richest of the richest have to pay something like the half of their income. But within this a fair amount is for your pension (your employer and yourself each pay like half of the monthly rate)
Yet we got the ridiculous system where you can deduct a large amont of the price of your house from the taxes, no matter how many houses you own or how expensive the house is, making the richest even more rich. Everybody knows it is ridiculous, it costs a ridiculous amount of Dutch tax payers money, yet no politician dares to touch this (it's political suicide).
Healthcare is quite good, but you see there's enough to bitch about in this stupid country.
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same here.
it's quite unbelievable that the U.S. health system is so bad.
and also that french one are so good (no offense to frenchies around)
in the end, it's no surprise: it's all about the money. and the corruption that causes it.
by the way, i love all Michael Moore's films. it's good to have something witouth fear to talk.
Amazing isn't it? We have a system we spend double per capita on then the countrys that have universal coverage do and some think we have the better way still.And the results are clear ,we have worse overall healthcare outcomes,infant mortality etc. and spend the most.The insurance industry and its lobbys are good here at passing around that kool-aid lol.But the time is coming when reform will be forced on them,we can't afford this system much longer.
Did you know if we had universal health care that family doctors would get paid more by the gov. than what they are getting paid now. Now I know that other MDs would'nt get paid nearly as much as they do know if we had universal health care but so what as you saw in sicko the doctors over seas live comfortable. Thats how it should be here.
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