Woman Beheaded In Oklahoma By Muslim Convert

The pussy cut a woman's head off and attacked another woman. COWARD

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/09/26/women-beheaded-oklahoma-muslim-convert

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Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Just another instance of workplace violence. Move along, nothing to see here.

No, it's not. Even if this had nothing to do with islam, it's still a extremely brutal attack, that is clearly the actions of someone was well beyond disturbed. It's also clearly a damn good reason why carrying concealed weapons DOES save lives...in this case, they were lucky enough to have a cop working their, not everybody else is that lucky.
 
I was being sarcastic. Like the Ft. Hood massacre, this has everything to do with Islam.

1. He repeatedly tried to convert co-workers to islam.
2. He got fired for arguing that women should be stoned to death for offenses like adultery.
3. He beheaded that poor woman because she refused to convert to islam.

But the powers that be were quick to rush in and declare both incidents just another case of workplace violence even though both perpetrators left a wake of evidence behind that they had been radicalized not to mention shouting 'alahu akbar' as they commited their crimes. Yep, just another disgruntled former employee.


This SOB was born and raised here. But what's the common thread that he shares with that butcher for ISIS half a world away?
 

SabrinaDeep

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Eh, but we must be tolerant. We must stop selling and eating pork. We must stop carrying a necklace cross. We must build them mosques and demolish our offensive churches. That guy was not a bad guy, you fools: he is a martyr and he will go to Haven to fuck virgins while all of you will burn in hell headless. Open your doors to the Prophet and don't dare to talk bad about muslims: we must be democratic and politically correct.
Too bad Oprah retired her show: she could have enlighten us once again about the beauty of Islam and their gentle people.
 
When it comes to ISIS, there is method to their madness. Here there seems to be just madness. I would strongly suspect that this man has some form of psychiatric diagnosis as well. And yes, I wrote 'as well'.
 
Eh, but we must be tolerant. We must stop selling and eating pork. We must stop carrying a necklace cross. We must build them mosques and demolish our offensive churches. That guy was not a bad guy, you fools: he is a martyr and he will go to Haven to fuck virgins while all of you will burn in hell headless. Open your doors to the Prophet and don't dare to talk bad about muslims: we must be democratic and politically correct.
Sabrina, you should apply for a job on Fox News, you definetely have the qualities for that kind of job : You know how to distort the facts, make them simple even if they are much more complicated, you know how make things look like your opinion on the issues is the only reasonable opinion.
On a chair between Greg Gutfeld and Bob Beckel, you'de be perfect...
 
Sabrina, you should apply for a job on Fox News, you definetely have the qualities for that kind of job : You know how to distort the facts, make them simple even if they are much more complicated, you know how make things look like your opinion on the issues is the only reasonable opinion.
On a chair between Greg Gutfeld and Bob Beckel, you'de be perfect...

No, she pretty much nails it.
 

SabrinaDeep

Official Checked Star Member
Sabrina, you should apply for a job on Fox News, you definetely have the qualities for that kind of job : You know how to distort the facts, make them simple even if they are much more complicated, you know how make things look like your opinion on the issues is the only reasonable opinion.
On a chair between Greg Gutfeld and Bob Beckel, you'de be perfect...

Beside the fact that i could not work on Fox News, because i would have a lot of shit to throw over their heads too...but could you please tell me which facts i have distorted? You really haven't heard of all that i mentioned above? People sacked because wearing a cross necklace, crosses banned even from Italian schools (you know? Italy, that place where the Vatican and a guy that people call the Pope live), among the most ancient monuments and Churches of Christianity destroyed, pork banned from the menu of food corporations...you've never heard of those? Really?
You can't just tell people that they distort facts without going into details. I didn't express my opinion, i cited documented facts that you won't be able to disprove. If the truth hurts that's a different thing and i understand that when that happens it may be convenient to dismiss it with generic attacks in order to change slightly its perception. But that does not change the truth, really.
 

Mandy Flores

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But...but...RELIGION OF PEACE...and so forth.

Well I have to put this out there, because I know all the "religion is the cause of more murders...blah blah blah..." crowd is coming soon.
These murderers have nothing to do with religion, nothing to do with God or Allah or Jehovah...whatever you want to call him. They are crazy, plain and simple. They use religion to justify what they hate. Nobody said Jodie Foster should be banned because someone shot Reagan in her honor. I'm pretty certain that Stalin and the Mongols together killed more people than all the rest combined and they had no deity whatsoever. They just used different excuses. I've never met a Muslim that wasn't very sweet to me, and with exposure to a ton more Christians I still rarely run into one that is just a piece of shit, and that has nothing to do with their religion it has everything to do with just being crazy fuckers. The Chinese and Russians are Atheistic and yet they have been responsible for tens of millions of murders in war and otherwise. If the Arab world had no religion there would still be crazy fuckers there that fear women and feel killing is the right way to make a point.
 
You can't just tell people that they distort facts without going into details. I didn't express my opinion, i cited documented facts that you won't be able to disprove. If the truth hurts that's a different thing and i understand that when that happens it may be convenient to dismiss it with generic attacks in order to change slightly its perception. But that does not change the truth, really.

You would think that people feeling the need to qualify factual statements about objective reality in order to not feel offensive should be enough of a reality check. But no. :D
 
Well I have to put this out there, because I know all the "religion is the cause of more murders...blah blah blah..." crowd is coming soon.
These murderers have nothing to do with religion, nothing to do with God or Allah or Jehovah...whatever you want to call him. They are crazy, plain and simple. They use religion to justify what they hate. Nobody said Jodie Foster should be banned because someone shot Reagan in her honor. I'm pretty certain that Stalin and the Mongols together killed more people than all the rest combined and they had no deity whatsoever. They just used different excuses. I've never met a Muslim that wasn't very sweet to me, and with exposure to a ton more Christians I still rarely run into one that is just a piece of shit, and that has nothing to do with their religion it has everything to do with just being crazy fuckers. The Chinese and Russians are Atheistic and yet they have been responsible for tens of millions of murders in war and otherwise. If the Arab world had no religion there would still be crazy fuckers there that fear women and feel killing is the right way to make a point.

I have to both agree and disagree with you here. Raymond Aron wrote about secular religions; I have not studied his argument in detail, but in general I would agree with the thesis that Communism has the same structure as e.g. Christianity. I would also say that many modern -isms have elements of this structure as well. Marx, Rousseau or Mohammed; I really cannot see the difference.
 
First, don't tell me you're teling the truth. 'cause I learned to always be extremeley cautious with people pretending they say the truth. Usually, when someone pretend he's gonna tell you the truth, he in fact is gonna tell you a lie. But he's clver enough to disguise this lie to mke it look like it's the truth...

Where did you distort the facts ? Well, you blame a whole community for the acts of a minority. As if ALL muslims wanted to ban pork, as if ALL muslims wanted to forbid people to wear cross necklace, as if ALL muslims wanted to destroy churches...

A muslim beheaded awoman in Okhlahoma. Well, that makes one fucking radical. Doesn't every muslim are like him
http://kfor.com/2014/09/19/oklahoma-muslims-rally-against-isis/

I don't know about Italy and crosses being banned from schools but I know about France. Ccrosses are banned in our schools as well. But so are headscarves and kippas and turbans, etc... Our law says that no religious sign are tolerated inside the school.


Anyway, You Might be right, Islam might be evil. Just like every other religions, no less, no more
 
Muslims in Europe rally against extremist violence

In tweets, in street gatherings and in open letters, moderate Muslims around the world are insisting that the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) extremists don't speak for their religion. Many are also frustrated that anyone might think they do, and a backlash has already begun.

This week's videotaped beheading of a French mountaineer by militants linked to ISIS prompted heartsick fury among Muslims in France and elsewhere in Europe, torn between anger at the atrocities committed in the name of Islam and frustration that they have to defend themselves at all.

Herve Gourdel was the fifth Western hostage decapitated in recent weeks by Islamic extremists - this time, the militants said, as revenge for France's decision to join airstrikes against ISIS.

"He was the victim of a cowardly murder," Dalil Boubakeur, rector of the Grand Mosque of Paris, told hundreds of Muslims Friday, according to Reuters. "Islam demands respect of life ... The Koran tells us that to kill one man is to kill all humanity," he said.

The head of France's largest mosque called for Muslims to rally Friday in Paris to condemn Gourdel's slaying and show unity against terrorism, saying Islamic State's "deadly ideology" had nothing to do with Islam. Within hours of the call, the rector of the Bordeaux mosque, Tareq Oubrou, said French Muslims need not demonstrate in the name of Islam - but should be joined by everyone.

"They are doubly affected, because this crime touched one of our countrymen and because this crime was carried out in the name of our religion," Oubrou told RTL radio.

The same debate played out elsewhere. The hashtag campaign #notinmyname - or #pasenmonnom in French - initiated by British Muslims who wanted to show their opposition to extremist violence, spawned a #MuslimApologies backlash by those who thought the sense of regret was overwrought. Tweets "apologized" for algebra, soap and coffee.

"Nowhere does the Quran say other religions or nations must be attacked. Cutting people's heads off is really the most despicable. If airstrikes can stop these fundamentalist, aggressive ideas from spreading, I am all for it," said 65-year-old Enes Mustafic.

Another congregant, Omer Jamak, questioned the devotion and even sanity of anyone who thought otherwise.

"According to Islam, nobody is allowed to be evil to others. Nobody has the right to do such a thing. I am against everything they do down there like every sane person is," Jamak said.

An online poll posted by France's Le Figaro newspaper, asking whether people thought the country's Muslim community had sufficiently denounced Gourdel's death, drew an infuriated response. Rachida Dati, the mayor of Paris' 7th arrondissement and the daughter of Algerian immigrants, called for an end to the "confounding of Islam and fundamentalism, as the French political class has done for too long." The paper on Friday apologized for what it called a "clumsy" question.

Dawud Walid, director of the Michigan chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said headlines about the Islamic State were often frustrating in his work. Walid said he's been speaking out against excessive force by police after the fatal shooting of a young black man in Ferguson, Missouri.

"I received calls and emails from fellow Americans who say, 'Why are you worried about what's going in Ferguson? Stop ISIS.' That is ridiculous," said Walid, a black Muslim.

"My primary responsibility as an American citizen is to try to make America more of a just place," Walid said. "People in Iraq and Syria can't even fix their own problems. What am I supposed to be doing from Detroit?"

Still, the banner at Friday's gathering in Paris honoring Gourdel was emblazoned with "Not in My Name" and many in the crowd of about 500 said they were dismayed and appalled.

"We all gathered today ... to tell people, you want to convert, that's very good, but do it for your faith, because you want to convert and because you appreciate this religion. Don't do it to go fight, to go kill people because it is not what Islam says," said Nadir M'Sallaoui, a 27-year-old Parisian.

U.S. Muslim leaders and scholars issued an open letter Wednesday denouncing ISIS militants point by point, notably on "the killing of innocents" and jihad.

Muqtedar Khan, professor of political science at the University of Delaware and author of "American Muslims, Bridging Faith and Freedom," said Muslim condemnations after the 9/11 attacks failed to dent the reach of extremists.

"They are beginning to react the way they should have on Sept. 12, 2001," Khan said. "Muslims have gotten really tired of these groups that bring nothing, that have no positive impact at all among their societies."

Khan said whether the protests take root will depend upon what happens when the beheadings have subsided, and ISIS is no longer considered an immediate threat. Muslim leaders will have difficulty coming up with a message as attractive as the extremists' sermons to young people disillusioned with life in countries where they feel under constant suspicion. France's ban on face-covering veils and prohibitions on wearing headscarves in schools, for example, are often cited as proof the country is hostile to Muslims.

Speaking of the extremist preachers, Khan said: "Their theology becomes more potent because their politics are right."
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/muslims-in-france-protest-against-extremism/

But you know, all muslims are ISIS sympathisers wanting to impose charia law all over the world...
 

Mandy Flores

Official Checked Star Member
I have to both agree and disagree with you here. Raymond Aron wrote about secular religions; I have not studied his argument in detail, but in general I would agree with the thesis that Communism has the same structure as e.g. Christianity. I would also say that many modern -isms have elements of this structure as well. Marx, Rousseau or Mohammed; I really cannot see the difference.

Because it's not the ideal, or structure that is faulty, it is the individuals that use it to control others. If there was no religion it would just be filled with something else ie Communism and what have you, what get's forgotten is that with or without religion millions get murdered regardless. Look at African tribes.... it has no basis in religion there, they just kill each other in the name of their tribes. Fuck when it comes donw to it, the Palestinian/Israel conflict has nothing to do with religion anymore, its about heritage and revenge and history.... fuck they worship the same God in reality and practically have the same Bible!
My point is... though religion is USED by crazy people to justify or give them an excuse to do awful things, it's not the only thing manipulated that way, and banning religion does nothing to change human nature. So many great and wonderfully caring things have been done in the name of religion also, and you could argue that those good people may have done good things in the name of something else had religion not been available, but religion TEACHES to care for others, that is the foundation for Christianity for example, hell the New Testament in particular is VERY CLEAR that you are not to look down upon others for how they worship because "all are trying to honor God" just in their own way. I can't believe how many Christians just ignore that. Banning religion is like banning music because some crazy fuckers use it to spew hate and anger.
Love your enemies
Walk a mile in his shoes

Anyone who misinterprets those to mean look down on others, judge, and behead thy neighbor is obviously not right in the head to begin with.

I gotta stop here because I know this can be argued all day long, and I respect that some people just feel religion is a net negative in the world. I just disagree with that because I have seen so many people find religion and have it change them for the better, and they treat others better because of it.
 
True, but you ignore the other side or revealed religion: that it gives its adherents a monopoly on the truth. People killing others over mineral, water and grazing rights can be reasoned with. Religious fanatics on a mission from the one and only true God, not so much.
 
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