Why isn't football / soccer that popular in North America, United States / USA ?

Why isn't Soccer popular in America?


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Baseball (see above):
Basically You're both right! You can interpret it this way or that way.
But after all what I've read here I have to say:
If baseball is an English invention,
than football (soccer) isn't.
The origins of baseball root back to England, but the real rules etc. are American.
It's the same with football.
The rules etc. are English, but the origins root back in a time when nobody even knew Angles or Saxons.

I'm pretty sure that people have been kicking a ball around or hitting a ball with a stick for millennia.Football was once banned in England because it was interfering with archery practice!
It's true that many sports seem to have originated in these islands but this might be because our social structure allowed us to develop them.I have just been looking at a 1796 article on English baseball written by a German and it's pretty clear that there was a German version of the game too!
However, the bulk of early settlers in America were from England and for a long while regarded themselves as English with a different address. Clearly they would have taken with them their customs and leisure pursuits and these would have included games.The rest is history.
 

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
It's a bit like inventing the tyre and claiming to have invented the wheel.There was an element of development but very firmly based on rounders.I'm sure that when kids play an impromptu game of baseball they don't stick to 9 players a side or 90 feet between bases but they still think of it as being baseball.Rounders was never really formalised as such. But this is the point-anyone who played rounders as a kid will recognise baseball as being essentially the same game.The difference is in the detail.
All games have been revised and revamped from time to time; the number of players per side in soccer and cricket wasn't originally defined and neither was the size of the pitch.Modern cricket is as different from 1800 cricket as baseball is from rounders , the same is true of soccer but it's a matter of evolution rather than invention.

Just like anyone who plays baseball as a kid will recognize softball as essentially the same game? Just like anyone who plays football as a kid will recognize rugby as essentially the same game? Just like anyone who plays badminton as a kid will recognize volleyball as essentially the same game?

Similar? Yes. The same game? No.

You even said yourself that...

The difference is in the detail.

Baseball isn't Cricket. Baseball isn't Town Ball. Baseball isn't Rounders. They're all different.

I'm pretty sure that people have been kicking a ball around or hitting a ball with a stick for millennia.Football was once banned in England because it was interfering with archery practice!
It's true that many sports seem to have originated in these islands but this might be because our social structure allowed us to develop them.I have just been looking at a 1796 article on English baseball written by a German and it's pretty clear that there was a German version of the game too!
However, the bulk of early settlers in America were from England and for a long while regarded themselves as English with a different address. Clearly they would have taken with them their customs and leisure pursuits and these would have included games.The rest is history.

You're right! People have been hitting a ball with a stick for millennia. When I did my research a few years back, the earliest documentation of "stick and ball" games that I found, was back in the times of Ancient Egypt. The time period of Ancient Egypt goes from 3100 B.C to 395 A.D., which is eons before England even existed.

If you're going to talk about "roots" of baseball, then you can't be serious when you claim that the English invented it. If you're going to use "roots" of the game as part of the formula, then England was waaaaaaay behind the times when they started making "stick and ball" games. Ancient Egyptians used "stick and ball" games as part of their religious practice, to represent the struggle between good and evil.
 
Just like anyone who plays baseball as a kid will recognize softball as essentially the same game? Just like anyone who plays football as a kid will recognize rugby as essentially the same game? Just like anyone who plays badminton as a kid will recognize volleyball as essentially the same game?

Similar? Yes. The same game? No.

The similarity between rounders and baseball is that a person who has played rounders could simply get on to the baseball field and know what to do.There will be four bases, he will get 3 shots at the ball, it must be hit into the forward quadrant.He must run to the base before the ball gets there or he is out.And so on.The only main difference is that dobbing doesn't happen although it did once.
A soccer player on the other hand will find rugby inexplicable because in his game handling the ball means giving a penalty, he won't know about lineouts or scrums or conversions or body tackles or forward passing.Yet rugby is known to be a development of soccer.
 
Kind of a comical reread thread.....have to agree with my pal ChefChi...(where has he been?)

Baseball is an American sport...it doesn't matter that its roots lay in a British or Egyptian sport.

In terms of the original post...Becks may singlehandedly SPARK soccer interest in America...he is off to a pretty good start with the Galaxy!

C'mon Becks! C'mon Galaxy!
 
Not enough scoring. See hockey and baseball vs American football and basketball.

The players are wimps, with all the fake falling down crap, so they don't get respected by U.S. men.

The U.S. isn't good enough at it vs other nations. This is both a result of its lack of popularity here and a cause of it.
 
Because it's boring to sit through 90 minutes of a game where, if you're lucky, you'll get 2 minutes of something exciting happening. Even hockey, which could be comparable based on the way of scoring and the potential for low scores, has the excitement of seeing players skate down the ice and get slammed into the plexiglass at 40 miles an hour, or the ever-looming prospect of a potential fight springing up up for no reason. In soccer it's just watching a bunch of people waling around a field, occasionally falling to the ground and feigning to be mortally injured anytime anyone does so much as rub shoulders with them.
 
a friendly...........just showing how shite england really are
 
I like the American team, but let's face it, they aren't exactly A plus material. If england loses to them, then it will certainly say something.

I would think that you guys would all love soccer.

it's just like porn! a couple hours of going back and forth, and then a shot or two at the end.
 
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nightwanker

Proud first owner of FreeOnes Playing Cards
Hockey low scoring?
Compare number of goals in hockey with touchdowns/goals in American football

btw
Basketball got too much scoring :2 cents:

I accept the scoring argument on football ("soccer"),
but anyhow it works in most parts of the world ;)
how it works is explained in some good posts on this thread
(this doesn't mean you should change your preferences. it's just a discussion)
 
Cultural. Simply cultural.

There is a feedback loop where if you are good, you play more and more people pay, then you get better, then you play more, and you get better, and so on....

In the US, there just isn't enough momentum to get the USA Team (male) to be good. They suck. Under any standard they suck. So fewer people play. And it's the opposite feedback loop.
 
Americans called that as football. They only use their feet when running and touch down. However, European football is the true one that has to be called as "foot"ball.
 

Synthmesc_Droog

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Who knows why? Maybe its to do with the fact there's a pseudo-masochistic culture surrounding sports in America. Maybe its to do with the complete monopoly that the NFL, Major League Baseball and NBA has on sports coverage in America. It's probably a whole range and combination of aforementioned things. But, the USA will never be able to do this. :D
 

PlasmaTwa2

The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
Cause all of are sports were created in North America. Football and baseball are American, basketball and hockey are Canadian (Yes, basketball was created by a Canadian). That, and we don't have the type of weather to allow us to play soccer all year.
 
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