Why is it that if a pornstar doesn't want to get with black guys, it is a major issue?

[HappyHapyJoyJoy]

In fact i didn't use it scientifically, but rather as a mark of unity to get over the nonsense which is calling differences and divisions among differently colored people racism. I'm simply very very tired of having to justify my actions and speeches more and more, depending whom they are addressed to.

I know... but I like science and it was an excuse to toss some science up in this here thread!

And it never hurts to remind the world that science, a study that deals in facts, tells us that "race" doesn't exist. It's a figment of our imaginations used to draw yet more imaginary lines in the sand. We as a species do love our imaginary lines... we like to toss them down all over the place, and occasionally kill each other over them!

 

[spacearrow99]

Of course they have been...



... that's why I said that.



The correct way to end that sentence is: "...no one."

I'm not defending anyone. I'm saying your arguments are hypocritical self-serving bullshit. I'm not defending anyone as each individual case would be just that an individual case. I don't know these people, nor the specifics of why they've each, individually chosen what they'd decided to do with their careers. I've given an alternate (unoffensive) option for why these people might have chosen the course they have (and you've AGREED IT'S A VIABLE OPTION), and bluntly said that you can't lambaste the whole due to it... meanwhile you're readily trying to justify slandering and libeling people you don't know over situations you aren't familiar with concerning things you don't understand.

Oh, and even WHEN the unoffensive option is true, according to you, these people should take pay cuts to do lower paying work or it's fine to libel and slander them with stuff that isn't true because they're celebrities. So you're saying that even when they aren't racists it's fine to call them racists. You defend this but not the right of people to not subject themselves to things that make them uncomfortable without having terrible insults leveled at them. You think that these people should have to subject themselves to racism or face lower pay so that other people don't have to feel like they're being subjected to racism or end up facing lower pay. One is apparently fine with you, while the other is a sin.

Basically I'm suggesting this: "You don't know shit, so don't be an asshole."

And holding on shooting IR scenes is invalid since its based solely on race, so your argument lower pay argument is invalid. Every public figure gets thrashed in this country. Pornstars chosen careers make them public figures.

 

[HappyHapyJoyJoy]

And holding on shooting IR scenes is bad since its based solely on race, so your argument lower pay argument is invalid.

Bullshit.

If someone holds off for the bigger paycheck it's based solely on money. You said it yourself... "female performers are getting paid for doing porn". If someone holds out because they don't want to subject themselves to racially charged scenes then it's not based on race it's based on racism... you know, that thing you're supposed to be against yet are apparently supporting here.

If you hate racism so much why aren't you off trying to get rid of racially charged pornography to make the work environment nicer, less racist, and perhaps more attractive for female performers? Why not go that route instead of insisting that women take part in the current shit or "face the consequences"? Why not combat the definite racism instead of tilting at dragons that might very well be windmills? The answer here seems pretty obvious and it doesn't paint you in a very flattering light.

Every public figure gets thrashed in this country.

So it's okay to be level claims of racism against people who aren't racist in order to goad them into doing things they don't want to? You are a total piece of shit, and a sorry excuse for a human being.

Oh, also, if celebrities are allowed to face offensive bullshit and should suck it up... then I guess black male talent in porn should... oh wait, no... I forgot, they shouldn't have to face women not wanting to fuck them on camera for any reason at all because you're a hypocritical asshole. That's right. Sorry. I keep forgetting that. :dunno:

Oh, and about your little post where you admit that female performers are in it to get paid...

Female performers are getting paid for doing porn, and their holding out of shooting IR because of money is flat out...

... expected.

That's how you should have ended that sentence, with "expected". I'm not sure you entirely understand the concept of "business" and "career". You just flat out said, "Hey, they're doing this for money so you know that doing it for money is WRONG!" That's... dumb.

And from that same post...

You people are calling me a racist. When Ace has a racist upload in this thread!

1) I personally believe that Ace only posted that to get your goat. Second, I'm not entirely sure it's racist. I mean, your quote on it seems a little racist, but all I see is a naked black guy with two torches and a computer tied to his junk. I'm not sure how that's racist. Is there some stereotype I don't know of that this is playing to where black men are prone to tying computers to their dicks and holding fire aloft...? If there is than, hey, maybe you've got a point there... :dunno: Really though, it just seems like you want to project the title of "racist" onto every single white person, even ones you fully admit aren't motivated by racism.

2) Let's say Ace is racist, that doesn't make you any less racist.

 

[spacearrow99]

Bullshit.

If someone holds off for the bigger paycheck it's based solely on money. You said it yourself... "female performers are getting paid for doing porn". If someone holds out because they don't want to subject themselves to racially charged scenes then it's not based on race it's based on racism... you know, that thing you're supposed to be against yet are apparently supporting here.

If you hate racism so much why aren't you off trying to get rid of racially charged pornography to make the work environment nicer, less racist, and perhaps more attractive for female performers? Why not go that route instead of insisting that women take part in the current shit or "face the consequences"? Why not combat the definite racism instead of tilting at dragons that might very well be windmills? The answer here seems pretty obvious and it doesn't paint you in a very flattering light.



So it's okay to be level claims of racism against people who aren't racist in order to goad them into doing things they don't want to? You are a total piece of shit, and a sorry excuse for a human being.

Oh, also, if celebrities are allowed to face offensive bullshit and should suck it up... then I guess black male talent in porn should... oh wait, no... I forgot, they shouldn't have to face women not wanting to fuck them on camera for any reason at all because you're a hypocritical asshole. That's right. Sorry. I keep forgetting that. :dunno:

Oh, and about your little post where you admit that female performers are in it to get paid...




... expected.

That's how you should have ended that sentence, with "expected". I'm not sure you entirely understand the concept of "business" and "career". You just flat out said, "Hey, they're doing this for money so you know that doing it for money is WRONG!" That's... dumb.

And from that same post...



1) I personally believe that Ace only posted that to get your goat. Second, I'm not entirely sure it's racist. I mean, your quote on it seems a little racist, but all I see is a naked black guy with two torches and a computer tied to his junk. I'm not sure how that's racist. Is there some stereotype I don't know of that this is playing to where black men are prone to tying computers to their dicks and holding fire aloft...? If there is than, hey, maybe you've got a point there... :dunno: Really though, it just seems like you want to project the title of "racist" onto every single white person, even ones you fully admit aren't motivated by racism.

2) Let's say Ace is racist, that doesn't make you any less racist.

This thread isn't going anywhere. You are defending trash like Ace so our conservation is done.

 

[HappyHapyJoyJoy]

This thread isn't going anywhere. You are defending trash like Ace so our conservation is done.

Wait... so think Ace is trash, but... YOU aren't? So after everything you've said? Trying to goad young women into performing acts that make them uncomfortable with claims that you readily admit may not even be true. Taking blatantly hypocritical stances. Not acknowledging the racist content of much of interracial porn as a "problem" while slandering people as "racist" for not wanting to take part in it. All of this is... what, awesome behavior befitting the finest of well-mannered and well-meaning gentlemen?

You may not be quite right in the head, son.

Really, it seems pretty obvious that our "conversation is done" quite simply because you know it would be impossible for you to try and defend the indefensible. I mean, you're openly stating things which are utterly reprehensible (and often nonsensical as well). I've made clear arguments against you. Quoted you directly and explained where you've got wrong (or batshit crazy as the case may be). You haven't rebutted anything. Hell, you've AGREED with most of what I've said while characterizing your arguments as bullshit, but you've written it off because "duh it's cool to shit on celebrities, especially porn stars (but only if they're white women)" and you'd have to be a halfwit to think that justifies anything.

 

[spacearrow99]

Wait... so think Ace is trash, but... YOU aren't? So after everything you've said? Trying to goad young women into performing acts that make them uncomfortable with claims that you readily admit may not even be true. Taking blatantly hypocritical stances. Not acknowledging the racist content of much of interracial porn as a "problem" while slandering people as "racist" for not wanting to take part in it. All of this is... what, awesome behavior befitting the finest of well-mannered and well-meaning gentlemen?

You may not be quite right in the head, son.

Really, it seems pretty obvious that our "conversation is done" quite simply because you know it would be impossible for you to try and defend the indefensible. I mean, you're openly stating things which are utterly reprehensible (and often nonsensical as well). I've made clear arguments against you. Quoted you directly and explained where you've got wrong (or batshit crazy as the case may be). You haven't rebutted anything. Hell, you've AGREED with most of what I've said while characterizing your arguments as bullshit, but you've written it off because "duh it's cool to shit on celebrities, especially porn stars (but only if they're white women)" and you'd have to be a halfwit to think that justifies anything.

Dude, go look up my posts, some of the topics you will not understand. I don't have all night to argue with a jackass computer nerd. Two people argued with me out of a board of thousands, so my statements must have much truth to them.

 

[HappyHapyJoyJoy]

Dude, go look up my posts, some of the topics you will not understand. I don't have all night to argue with a jackass computer nerd. Two people argued with me out of a board of thousands, so my statements must have much truth to them.

I've read your bullshit, and more than two people have disagreed with you. Unless you means specifically tonight. Sabrina and Harley are two right there. Now there's Ace. Jeep. Me. That's five and I didn't have to look back in the thread to tally that. Those are just the ones I remember disagreeing with your claims. And this may be a board of thousands, but there probably aren't even two hundred regular posters in the Talk Section. A fraction of that are interested in talking about race. A fraction of that are going to click on this piece of shit topic. A fraction of that are going to reply.

Your apparent belief that "Well hey, if they don't come in here and tell me I'm full of shit they must agree with me!" is both asinine and pompous. But then that's not surprising from a self-serving hypocrite.

 

[spacearrow99]

I've read your bullshit, and more than two people have disagreed with you. Unless you means specifically tonight. Sabrina and Harley are two right there. Now there's Ace. Jeep. Me. That's five and I didn't have to look back in the thread to tally that. Those are just the ones I remember disagreeing with your claims. And this may be a board of thousands, but there probably aren't even two hundred regular posters in the Talk Section. A fraction of that are interested in talking about race. A fraction of that are going to click on this piece of shit topic. A fraction of that are going to reply.

Your apparent belief that "Well hey, if they don't come in here and tell me I'm full of shit they must agree with me!" is both asinine and pompous. But then that's not surprising from a self-serving hypocrite.

I was talking about tonight. You are not a administrator or moderator, so you do not know many posters use the talk section daily.

 

[HappyHapyJoyJoy]

I was talking about tonight.

So then you were being entirely irrelevant. What, people who've disagreed with you 24+ hours ago don't count, but "thousands" of people who frequent this board but don't say a thing obviously support you?

I'd say that's comical, but it's too sad to be funny...

You are not a administrator or moderator, so you do not know many posters use the talk section daily.

Guess it's a damn fine thing that I said "probably" and high-balled (drastically, since even a casual perusal of the board will show that out) my estimate then instead of quoting a concrete yet fictitious number, isn't it? Kind of like your suggestion of "thousands" when it's quite obvious to anyone that there aren't currently "thousands" of regular posters on this here Talk Section, huh?

 

[HappyHapyJoyJoy]

By the by... my high-balling was a charitable act. It works in your favor. I did that so as not to try and misrepresent anything. I wanted to make sure that I wouldn't be accused of trying to portray my side of the argument in too favorable a light. Honestly? I probably could have cut that number in half and still been safe. Your high-balling...? (You know, when you did it to suggest that people who haven't supported you support you simply because they haven't specifically not supported you?) Well, that also works in your favor. Again, being as self-serving and pompous as you are, this isn't a surprise. Anything to try and make your argument look like it has legs to stand on, huh? Guess you really have to dig when the crux of it is "Hey, it's okay to call young women who might not be racist racists in order to cajole them and emotionally abuse them into doing the sexual things you want them to!" I mean, when you actually look at what you're saying that's a pretty tough sell, huh?

:dunno: odd how everything you do supports what I say, isn't it?

 

[spacearrow99]

By the by... my high-balling was a charitable act. It works in your favor. I did that so as not to try and misrepresent anything. I wanted to make sure that I wouldn't be accused of trying to portray my side of the argument in too favorable a light. Honestly? I probably could have cut that number in half and still been safe. Your high-balling...? (You know, when you did it to suggest that people who haven't supported you support you simply because they haven't specifically not supported you?) Well, that also works in your favor. Again, being as self-serving and pompous as you are, this isn't a surprise. Anything to try and make your argument look like it has legs to stand on, huh? Guess you really have to dig when the crux of it is "Hey, it's okay to call young women who might not be racist racists in order to cajole them and emotionally abuse them into doing the sexual things you want them to!" I mean, when you actually look at what you're saying that's a pretty tough sell, huh?

:dunno: odd how everything you do supports what I say, isn't it?

If the women were regular girls, sick porn fans would not be calling them names.

I was going to stop posting since Vodka has left. I miss our discussions on defense.

I will be bumping up this thread every week.

 

[HappyHapyJoyJoy]

If the women were regular girls, sick porn fans would not be calling them names.

Hate to break it to you, but they are regular girls. Porn is a job, and taking it doesn't make you some other foreign species you complete fucking moron (oh, but don't take offense to me saying that because you're not a regular person, you're a douchbag on the Internet and if you weren't I wouldn't be calling you names... of course you're trying to say it's okay to call porn stars racist when they aren't, at least what I've said is truthful, as opposed to libelous).

Besides, if porn really does make people "irregular" and thus perfectly deserving of being treated like shit (as you so charitably suggest) then black male talent shouldn't have any problem with white female talent refusing to worth with them even for openly racist reasons, never mind the positive ones (since not wanting to take part in racist things is good, no?) or monetary ones, and as such none of this should be a problem for anyone and you should shut the fuck up (Hell, it seems like most of black male talent don't have any trouble engaging in openly racist productions like "Gang Bangin' Whitey" anyway, so... seems like most of them don't have a real problem with racism anyway). Right? Right!? Oh wait, again I forgot that because you're a hypocritical asshole it's only when something works against your bias that it's wrong, when it works with your bias it's perfectly fine to overlook it. That makes perfect sense... to a warped little hypocritical moron (again, don't take offense! If you didn't want to be called names you wouldn't act like a douchebag on the Internet!).

I will be bumping up this thread every week.

Not much point to that when you refuse to respond to the other side of the argument. Oh wait, it's pretty obvious that your point is just to be a racist misogynistic asshole, you know, because you're a racist misogynistic asshole.

 

[UnderBro]

Here's a video of Aurora Snow talking about the topic as a guest on TYT:

 

[spacearrow99]

Hate to break it to you, but they are regular girls. Porn is a job, and taking it doesn't make you some other foreign species you complete fucking moron (oh, but don't take offense to me saying that because you're not a regular person, you're a douchbag on the Internet and if you weren't I wouldn't be calling you names... of course you're trying to say it's okay to call porn stars racist when they aren't, at least what I've said is truthful, as opposed to libelous).

Besides, if porn really does make people "irregular" and thus perfectly deserving of being treated like shit (as you so charitably suggest) then black male talent shouldn't have any problem with white female talent refusing to worth with them even for openly racist reasons, never mind the positive ones (since not wanting to take part in racist things is good, no?) or monetary ones, and as such none of this should be a problem for anyone and you should shut the fuck up (Hell, it seems like most of black male talent don't have any trouble engaging in openly racist productions like "Gang Bangin' Whitey" anyway, so... seems like most of them don't have a real problem with racism anyway). Right? Right!? Oh wait, again I forgot that because you're a hypocritical asshole it's only when something works against your bias that it's wrong, when it works with your bias it's perfectly fine to overlook it. That makes perfect sense... to a warped little hypocritical moron (again, don't take offense! If you didn't want to be called names you wouldn't act like a douchebag on the Internet!).



Not much point to that when you refuse to respond to the other side of the argument. Oh wait, it's pretty obvious that your point is just to be a racist misogynistic asshole, you know, because you're a racist misogynistic asshole.

Those women you speak of are being called racists because they brought their sex lives to the public eye. Most women do not shoot porn for their income.

All women should think about the negatives before they enter the porn industry. Black people don't run or own most porn companies, so racist productions argument is not sound. But you have a point about black male talent; they should also live with their choices.

 

[UnderBro]

Here's a video of male performer Ace talking about the topic:

 

[UnderBro]

Here's a video from TYT University that talks about the topic:

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

I don't blame anyone for not wanting to contract SUPER AIDS.

 

[georges]

I don't blame anyone for not wanting to contract SUPER AIDS.

That is very understandable. One must remember Mr Marcus and how he infected performers by acting like a dirtbag

 

[RASQ]

One must remember Mr Marcus and how he infected performers by acting like a dirtbag

I don't know who Mr Marcus is, but I'm guessin' he black......

......and I'm only guessin' that he is black because it sounds like something they would do......

 

[monkeyspanky45]

i automatically lose interest in a pornstar when they start doing ir scenes so many new girls in the biz i don't really care anymore plus i still watch retired porn performers who left without doing ir scenes like sara stone.