In The Challenge of Democracy: Government in America Kenneth Janda, Jeffrey Berry, & Jerry Goldman state that Liberals favor government activities that promote equality and Oppose actions that restrict individual liberties, such as censorship. They also went on to say that Libertarians oppose government activities that interfere with the market and also oppose any actions that restrict individual liberties and a person's right to pursue happiness as long as it does not encroach upon another's freedom or safety. Are you sure you're one of them?
Why All The Anal Stuff???
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Well...more or less, a Libertarian. Probably a little more conservative. I'm a member of the Constitution Party:
http://www.constitutionparty.com/
And I will be voting for Ron Paul in 08'. :thumbsup:
Next November I'm voting...for me to make enough money to move to Costa Rica. Tropical Climate, breathtaking beauty, awesome surf and fishing, Cheap Blow, whores, and gambling. What could be better?
i guess you're repulsed by oral sex too... since everybody has a mouth
i'm not a anal fan but that reason doesn't make sense
i guess you're repulsed by oral sex too... since everybody has a mouth
i'm not a anal fan but that reason doesn't make sense
Maybe not...but it kind of does. I go down my girl not a lot, but enough. I don't really know if that's the point. (She goes down on me as well, pretty much whenever I want her to). Dude previously stated that "scat" was what some people are into, and this is just, well, IMO vile. I mean, you shit, I shit, everybody shits, and it STINKS. There's nothing pleasant about it.
Pussy's, for the most part, are nice and wet and don't stink and they are fun. Maybe the thesis for my argument here is not working? Maybe equating anything gay guys with what a (b/g) do is not what I should base my ideology on here? :dunno: I must say that I am not surprised that more members have not came to my defense here, however, because virtually the entire porn industry is officially knee deep in the shit at this point in time.
that's what's selling right now, for whatever reason. Alot of people are looking for anal, and even that extreme crazy sounding shit. The industry is doing their job, it's the people who are demanding more of this.
It's evident even on this board... every pornstar thread i look through, i see members consistently asking does she do anal, has she, etc. The industry is "knee deep" in it because evidently that's what everybody wants to see.
However, why people just have to see it, is another question.
It's evident even on this board... every pornstar thread i look through, i see members consistently asking does she do anal, has she, etc. The industry is "knee deep" in it because evidently that's what everybody wants to see.
However, why people just have to see it, is another question.
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sputnikgirl
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That's a good point. It's funny that there's so much more variety in porn than there used to be - not necessarily the porn actresses themselves - but the actual content has become more varied. Yet people are consistently drawn to anal. :dunno:
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96- You're absolutely correct, it remains very much taboo in most other culture. Very astute point, BTW.
I believe that what we're seeing unfold before our very eyes / lives is a culture that has a touch of the Stockholm Syndrome, if you will. We've become collectively captivated - desensitized - mesmerized for all that of which is beyond the ceiling. We collectively seem to embrace that of which we'd eschew, in more civilized times.
I'm having a forty something moment :helpme: - Who was that mythical device who was repeatedly warned not to fly too high . . . or its wings will (either burn or melt) as a result of "Flying too close to the sun" ?
Well . . . That's us, IMO.
NOTICE - Extreme this Extreme that ? ! Everywhere you go ! What's the limit ? What will we be doing to each other in 10 - 20 - 30 +years ?
What you've brought to the table, here today, I shudder to say, is not "the limit". "If" we wish to remain as human beings, then, yes, we're at the apex.
Honestly ! Sex is / was much more euphoric / enjoyable, when (for whatever reason), we're not dorking 'round 365 1/4 days a year X 23 hours a day (figuratively speaking).
People get bored - i.e.- The human brain, for better or worse, allows us to "plateau" if you will. Once we master a task, a tune, a mountain etc., our brain tells us more - higher - greater ! That said, IMO, perhaps we should ration our sexual tendencies / proclivities a bit :dunno:
Oh yeah, Said mythological character was "Icarus" .
We reap what we sew . . . So . . . time for some metaphorical stuff to chew on . . . without getting too philosophical :1orglaugh
√ Read This - A couple of paragraphs - it reveals how easily mankind can be manipulated. Cycle of Democracy
√ A short song which exposes human vulnerabilities when we seek out remedy in the wrong places here
√ A must read ! Very Brief - Another
Moderation or Extermination people !!
One more suggested study - The Weimar Republic (Germany post WWI) A very decadent people get squashed by Hitler . . . . .
Good Thread Pal !
Take Care
I believe that what we're seeing unfold before our very eyes / lives is a culture that has a touch of the Stockholm Syndrome, if you will. We've become collectively captivated - desensitized - mesmerized for all that of which is beyond the ceiling. We collectively seem to embrace that of which we'd eschew, in more civilized times.
I'm having a forty something moment :helpme: - Who was that mythical device who was repeatedly warned not to fly too high . . . or its wings will (either burn or melt) as a result of "Flying too close to the sun" ?
Well . . . That's us, IMO.
NOTICE - Extreme this Extreme that ? ! Everywhere you go ! What's the limit ? What will we be doing to each other in 10 - 20 - 30 +years ?
What you've brought to the table, here today, I shudder to say, is not "the limit". "If" we wish to remain as human beings, then, yes, we're at the apex.
Honestly ! Sex is / was much more euphoric / enjoyable, when (for whatever reason), we're not dorking 'round 365 1/4 days a year X 23 hours a day (figuratively speaking).
People get bored - i.e.- The human brain, for better or worse, allows us to "plateau" if you will. Once we master a task, a tune, a mountain etc., our brain tells us more - higher - greater ! That said, IMO, perhaps we should ration our sexual tendencies / proclivities a bit :dunno:
Oh yeah, Said mythological character was "Icarus" .
We reap what we sew . . . So . . . time for some metaphorical stuff to chew on . . . without getting too philosophical :1orglaugh
√ Read This - A couple of paragraphs - it reveals how easily mankind can be manipulated. Cycle of Democracy
√ A short song which exposes human vulnerabilities when we seek out remedy in the wrong places here
√ A must read ! Very Brief - Another
Moderation or Extermination people !!
One more suggested study - The Weimar Republic (Germany post WWI) A very decadent people get squashed by Hitler . . . . .
Good Thread Pal !
Take Care
LOL....:rofl: To your WHOLE post. You sound like the exact same liberals that argue for unbelievable free speech rights, when in reality, you have no options when it comes to dialogue. You have NO tolerance when it comes to discusing an issue like this. You'd rather just shut somebody down. I should have expected this. You obviously have a problem with what I said, and I said very little. In fact, I think my previous posts were quite right on, and I simply said I didn't like it and you bash me? Give me a little red negative in my rep? How do I send that back to you?
Where exactly have you been prevented from speaking your point? How could I have possibly shut you down, even if I had been trying to? :1orglaugh I read your post, evaluated the points you made, happened to disagreed with them and wrote a reply. That's the nature of mature dialogue. That's the nature of these forums. Deal with it.
As for the negative rep, I don't merely give it out when I disagree with someone. If you say something I don't believe in, that's fair enough. The only time I'll ever bother with neg rep is when what is said actually seems pretty downright offensive to me (only given neg rep once in the past too). Read the reason I gave you. I specifically told you it has nothing to do with your dislike of anal, but everything to do with the way you slipped in a mention about 'child abuse' into the discussion, as if to imply that there was some sort of link between anal sex and the molestation of children.
I also suggest you read how the rep system works. Just because you got some neg rep, it does not mean you're going to end up banned, or the moderators will necessarily look at you funny. It means some regular member thought there was something wrong with your post. Suggesting anal fans could just be potential child rapists was that point for me.
If I analyze your initial post line by line..I can read a large amount of intolerance within the text of your comments. It reads like you don't care about anal but just want reaffirmation that your beliefs are "normal."
Maybe you should research Roman Orgies if you want a scholarly/historical perspective on anal sex.
I find 99% of chest-thumping "Libertarians" to be nothing more than bored and embarrassed Republicans who don't want to admit that they were wrong and believe that changing political parties will somehow ease the guilt. A vote for Ralph Nader was merely a silent vote for Dubya. But you knew that, right?
My beliefs, as a LIBERAL GUY are as follows and pertain to straight porn only:
I think anal is ruining porn. Most of the girl performers look like they're in pain. That takes me out of the "fictional dream" and makes me hit the fastforward or click on something else. I'm not into anal with any girls I've been with. None of them have wanted it. Maybe someday I'll try it.
Maybe you should research Roman Orgies if you want a scholarly/historical perspective on anal sex.
I find 99% of chest-thumping "Libertarians" to be nothing more than bored and embarrassed Republicans who don't want to admit that they were wrong and believe that changing political parties will somehow ease the guilt. A vote for Ralph Nader was merely a silent vote for Dubya. But you knew that, right?
My beliefs, as a LIBERAL GUY are as follows and pertain to straight porn only:
I think anal is ruining porn. Most of the girl performers look like they're in pain. That takes me out of the "fictional dream" and makes me hit the fastforward or click on something else. I'm not into anal with any girls I've been with. None of them have wanted it. Maybe someday I'll try it.
Porn always has something that is the hot thing at the moment. It may anal now but it may chicks with extremely big implants tomorrow. I don't feel anal sex is homophobic in any way or is it disgusting. Several of the girls I've dated liked it and I wasn't thinking about a guy when we were having sex.
Alot of what I would like to say has been said already. I think the two best points are listed above. Anal interests me a little in porn and in my personal life. I have to admit that alot of that is because it seems nasty or taboo. It makes me feel that much more aroused, as long as the woman in question seems likes it. I don't like any porn where a girl is in pain, nor to I engage in any activities. The bottom line is that someone is heterosexual if they are attracted to the opposite sex and homosexual if they are attracted to the same sex. (They can of course be bisexual as well) No one act is gay or straight. It all matters who you are doing the acts with.
As far as anal sex saturation, you're definitely right. It occasionally bothers me that porn seems to focus on anal. It is not my favorite thing, so I would rather the focus be on what I like. But then again, the public must demand it for the focus to be where it is. If anal stuff didn't sell so well, they would shift their focus. I have to come back again to the taboo point. People must like watching it because of the taboo factor. It makes the girl that much more of a whore. That type of thing is what alot of guys are looking for (me included.) That's the only reason I can think of to enjoy watching anal.
satyrsam
The Anal Connoisseur
I'm not going to quote all of you.
Before using numbers and facts to help your points across, make sure that they are accurate. This is a debate that has been discussed often on this forum. The facts are that anal sex isn't new, taboo or not it's not going away. Some will enjoy it and some will be repulsed by it.
Before using numbers and facts to help your points across, make sure that they are accurate. This is a debate that has been discussed often on this forum. The facts are that anal sex isn't new, taboo or not it's not going away. Some will enjoy it and some will be repulsed by it.
I'm going to avoid most of the debate and answer one specific question from the OP.
Seeing as how I'm a woman who has experienced anal sex... I didn't particularily care for it.
I prefer oral.
Seeing as how I'm a woman who has experienced anal sex... I didn't particularily care for it.
I prefer oral.
FYI: Anal sex does have a lot to do with child predators/rapists/molesters. It's simply a fact. Too politically INcorrect for you to state facts?
First, of the four main political ideologies - anarchism, libertarianism, conservatisim and liberalsim - any one person can fall under the label of any one of these ideologies because they are so misconstrued, so blurry, if you will. For example, would you consider HOWARD STERN a conservative? Well, FYI, he ran for a political seat (can't remember if it was in NY state or not) for the Libertarian Party. He's "conservative" right? Not in the slightest sense. What about the mamoth spending, save the world, liberate everyone and their mom neo-CONS? Are they conservative...or are they, perhaps a mix between liberal and conservative? You tell me. As for me, I stated I was Libertarian, while in fact, there have been many times in recent memory wherein I felt that anarchy would suit our plight as a nation at that particular time as well. I guess in actuality, I could fall under a broad spectrum of certain political stances for a whole variety of reasons at a given time.
I agree with you on the second part of your post. It truly is, I believe, far too much of it at the moment. I don't think it will ever go away though like some people here suggest.
I don't believe the public has ever demanded it. I believe it was gradually mixed in, as is the case with several VHS' I have. I never bargained for that, but it was there. It was like, OK, I used to have the Spice channel and you never saw it back in the mid/late 90s. Now, like I said it's just too much. Here and there, fine for me/with me. But now I'm bombarded with it when I just even click a link to see a beautiful chick and then....
However, It appears the strategy payed off for whoever is the main beneficiary in relation to this large porn industry at the moment. They got many of you hooked.
Had I known that, I wouldn't have started this thread. On that matter I apolagize. Could you perhaps post a few of those thread links here? I am not aware of any.
Isn't Marxism an ideology too? Communism? In our country, the US, ideology is meaningless since political expression comes in the form of voting. Voting is monopolized by two parties. Howard Stern is certainly not a Liberal. He's neither a wacko, Jesus Freak Republican. He ran for Mayor of New York on two issues--one was to fix every pothole in the city and the second was...hmmm...I forgot what the second was. I would classify him as Libertarian.
NeoCons are most certainly Republicans. They are merely greedy, special-interest whore Republicans. They believe in policies that suit "their friends" and their friends are rich, white, upperclass, wealthy/superwealthy people. The only Anarchist I've taken seriously is Noam Chomsky although if I took a guess, he'd punch a Dem ticket in the booth.
I have nothing personally against Libertarians or the flavor of the year, Ron Paul. Dr. Paul is the only Republican candidate that makes sense on that particular stage. I just feel that Libertarian is a "buzzword" which embarrassed Republicans are gravitating to. Disolutioned Democrats go Independent or to the Green Party..generally speaking.
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Wasn't Ralph The Green Party ?
Yes, Agreed . . . Then there are those, particularly of the reverse steergirl persuation, who appear as perplexed . . . like a kid before an empty cookie jar . . a coke junkie on his last blast . . What we used to call "Jonesin".tits said:
As rare as I watch vids online or otherwise, I must say, in the last 2 - 3 years, I was surprised to see as many unexcited / bored girls, gettinitinthepoka.
Full length Slam - Slams, she rides high above her dick-man . . . . .severely spank that pussy ! . . . . .nothin ! the girl continues to beat the hell out of herself - i.e. - full wind up / impact slaps . . . . . . Nothin doin
. That's sad to see . . Two young ones goin' at it, a M + F, and all you see, via facial expression / body language is - "It's just another flipin video / another day at work on the set . . yawn . .
Why ? the sexual action has become all too routine, particlarly for the woman. (Devils advocate here) > "But it's assex ! That'll never wear out ! It's the end all be all maximum sexual rush !" (OMFG ! - Much more so for the guy) day after day, and before long, That thrill is going . . . going, and all at once, you're back to being bored again.
Relative to conventional (non assex) personal relationships, It's a given that we guys are eternal pile drivers [grin], and you may not be on the up 'n up, so to speak . . . but she's been faking it lately ! . . .all 'cause you . . . the guy . . . the dick . . . must initiate ! Every time, three times a day . . . You pressure your woman, she concedes, over and over . . . . over time, she may acquire herself a girlfriend, cause you're not satisfying her . . . she's not particularly satisfying you as you had fondly remembered.
So here the two of you are, bored and plateaued . . . . Why ? Too Much Sex, Too Often !
Oh, I know I'll get those rebuts - "Me and my lady never get tired, don't you tell me . . . . . . ! Go a damn head ! but you don't know for sure she's actually climaxin . . . do you ?
Try this guys - Tell her that she chooses when you're going to get together - (i.e. - bone). Just try it ! At this point, you'll really find out if or how much she really loves you. If she does, You don't need no stinkin assex ! She'll be all juiced up, bouncin' round like a bunny. That's when life is good !
In closing, IMO, butt dorkin is only a temporary remedy for the over sexed .
FWIW -
Do as you please, as long as your not harming others.
Be Well . . Take Care
Best To All ~
Wasn't Ralph The Green Party ?
Yes, Agreed . . . Then there are those, particularly of the reverse steergirl persuation, who appear as perplexed . . . like a kid before an empty cookie jar . . a coke junkie on his last blast . . What we used to call "Jonesin".
As rare as I watch vids online or otherwise, I must say, in the last 2 - 3 years, I was surprised to see as many unexcited / bored girls, gettinitinthepoka.
Full length Slam - Slams, she rides high above her dick-man . . . . .severely spank that pussy ! . . . . .nothin ! the girl continues to beat the hell out of herself - i.e. - full wind up / impact slaps . . . . . . Nothin doin
That's sad to see . . Two young ones goin' at it, a M + F, and all you see, via facial expression / body language is - "It's just another flipin video / another day at work on the set . . yawn . .
Why ? the sexual action has become all too routine, particlarly for the woman. (Devils advocate here) > "But it's assex ! That'll never wear out ! It's the end all be all maximum sexual rush !" (OMFG ! - Much more so for the guy) day after day, and before long, That thrill is going . . . going, and all at once, you're back to being bored again.
Relative to conventional (non assex) personal relationships, It's a given that we guys are eternal pile drivers [grin], and you may not be on the up 'n up, so to speak . . . but she's been faking it lately ! . . .all 'cause you . . . the guy . . . the dick . . . must initiate ! Every time, three times a day . . . You pressure your woman, she concedes, over and over . . . . over time, she may acquire herself a girlfriend, cause you're not satisfying her . . . she's not particularly satisfying you as you had fondly remembered.
So here the two of you are, bored and plateaued . . . . Why ? Too Much Sex, Too Often !
Oh, I know I'll get those rebuts - "Me and my lady never get tired, don't you tell me . . . . . . ! Go a damn head ! but you don't know for sure she's actually climaxin . . . do you ?
Try this guys - Tell her that she chooses when you're going to get together - (i.e. - bone). Just try it ! At this point, you'll really find out if or how much she really loves you. If she does, You don't need no stinkin assex ! She'll be all juiced up, bouncin' round like a bunny. That's when life is good !
In closing, IMO, butt dorkin is only a temporary remedy for the over sexed .
FWIW -
Do as you please, as long as your not harming others.
Be Well . . Take Care
Best To All ~
LMAO.....
:1orglaugh:rofl:It may be hard for some of to undestand, but when you disect this fine young individuals post, you will find some good pointers on the matter. LOL!!!
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It would be interesting to hear you elaborate your support for this claim. I don't think consenting anal sex between adults has any more to do with child predators/rapists/molesters than any other sex act. Alot of molesters use their fingers because their dicks won't fit, should we stop fingering too?
So you're saying anal sex was forced upon us by the porn industry, without our consent, and "the strategy payed [sic] off"? How exactly does putting more anal sex into heterosexual porn make us buy more? If we didn't want anal sex, wouldn't we buy more porn if there was no anal sex in it? But no, people want anal sex in porn, not just because it is there, but because they are interested in it. The only way anal sex sells in porn is because there is a demand for it.
And if you say that demand for anal was created by the porn industry, then why? Why would they do that? According to you, people didn't want it. So why would they produce something people don't want? Just answer that question. The bottom line is that people do want to see anal sex and they do want to perform anal sex and they have for many many years.
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