Who is this Asian from the Bang Bus?


BINGO! There is YOUR problem! I discovered a long time ago that search and the advanced search is somewhat buggy. I search from the search box at the top of the page. It has proven time and again to be far more reliable!

Next time, before you start running your mouth, try not to be insulting when someone is trying to help you.
 
BINGO! There is YOUR problem! I discovered a long time ago that search and the advanced search is somewhat buggy. I search from the search box at the top of the page. It has proven time and again to be far more reliable!

You don't know what you're talking about. Advanced search returns exactly the same result as simple search :



What advanced search offers you are more options to further refine your query. The underlying default logical operator is AND in both versions of search.


Next time, before you start running your mouth, try not to be insulting when someone is trying to help you.

Instead of whining about being insulted, can you provide us with an actual example of an X Y query that returns something that doesn't contain both the X and the Y terms? Also state if you are using simple search, advanced search, or some other search page not previously mentioned.
 
You don't know what you are talking about. Advanced search returns exactly the same result as simple search :



What advanced search offers you are more options to further refine your query. The underlying default logical operator is AND in both versions of search.




Instead of whining about being insulted, can you provide us with an actual example of an X Y query that returns something that doesn't contain both the X and the Y terms? Also state if you are using simple search, advanced search, or some other search page not previously mentioned.

My God you are stubborn! I know how to use every search method on FreeOnes, and obviously know them better than you. If you want proof, do it yourself. I've done it. I've seen it, dozens, if not hundreds of times. Just use a generic term both ways and you'll see the proof. I have no intention of getting into a flame war over this, so just be a man and let it go.
 
My God you are stubborn! I know how to use every search method on FreeOnes, and obviously know them better than you. If you want proof, do it yourself. I've done it. I've seen it, dozens, if not hundreds of times. Just use a generic term both ways and you'll see the proof. I have no intention of getting into a flame war over this, so just be a man and let it go.

There is no flame war here. You made an assertion about the necessity of the AND operator and I've provided you with textual and visual proof that you are incorrect. I've asked you to provide an example that backs your initial assertion, but you have declined. Your inability to provide anything at all to substantiate your position speaks volumes.
 
Why is it that you didn't look for yourself? Or did you and see that you are wrong.

As I stated before, I've provided you with plenty of proof why you are wrong. On the other hand, your idea of 'proof' consists of :

"I know this for a fact as I use the search function almost every day."

"I know my methods work. Otherwise, I wouldn't have amassed 16 million rep points."

"It's obvious that you must be using a different search page than I do as the results are so different." (but you don't provide a screen capture of your results)

"I know how to use every search method on FreeOnes, and obviously know them better than you."

"Why is it that you didn't look for yourself? Or did you and see that you are wrong."​

:rofl2:
 
I was about to go ahead and give you what you wanted, but I got a private message from another senior member who thought you were laughable as you just cannot accept the fact that you are wrong. He also suggested that I stop wasting my time with you, and he is right. My time on here is better suited for members who actually appreciate the help I give them, so since you are unable, I'll be the bigger man and end this.

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I was about to go ahead and give you what you wanted, but I got a private message from another senior member who thought you were laughable as you just cannot accept the fact that you are wrong.

And I got a PM from God that says you're full of crap. Have said senior member post his/her 2 cents in this thread, not in a PM that can't be verified.

*plonk*
 
And I got a PM from God that says you're full of crap. Have said senior member post his/her 2 cents in this thread, not in a PM that can't be verified.

*plonk*

It was me actually. I wondered why the thread was getting continually bumped, so I had a look.

From what I could gather from the thread...

You instructed a new member in how to use the search function. New member camerokid didn't like your tone and flamed you. Macleod tried to give you simple advice in how to refine your searches. Grouping the terms together rather than searching for both single terms in the one search, similar as using the + symbol in google searches. You were reluctant to take the advice on board and seemed rather insulted by it. TBH I couldn't understand what you wanted to argue about. It was even said that the search and advance search seem more buggy than the general function, so could thus show different results anyway.

What made me laugh was the asking to post proof to justify the success of search methods. The fact is everything comes with experience of use...'The proof is in the pudding' as to say.

Remember it's not a personal argument, it's only over the search function. So, arguing about it only serves as a time waste for everyone involved. You still want to continue with it tho, just as I thought.

I didn't want to post up my views, but you asked. Now, if you post back again when nobody else wants to argue over something so trivial, you only serve to validate my opinion on the matter. Plus, I have no need to offer you any further explanation anyway.

Thank you and goodnight.
 
It was me actually. I wondered why the thread was getting continually bumped, so I had a look.

From what I could gather from the thread...

You instructed a new member in how to use the search function. New member camerokid didn't like your tone and flamed you. Macleod tried to give you simple advice in how to refine your searches. Grouping the terms together rather than searching for both single terms in the one search, similar as using the + symbol in google searches. You were reluctant to take the advice on board and seemed rather insulted by it. TBH I couldn't understand what you wanted to argue about. It was even said that the search and advance search seem more buggy than the general function, so could thus show different results anyway.

What made me laugh was the asking to post proof to justify the success of search methods. The fact is everything comes with experience of use...'The proof is in the pudding' as to say.

Remember it's not a personal argument, it's only over the search function. So, arguing about it only serves as a time waste for everyone involved. You still want to continue with it tho, just as I thought.

I didn't want to post up my views, but you asked. Now, if you post back again when nobody else wants to argue over something so trivial, you only serve to validate my opinion on the matter. Plus, I have no need to offer you any further explanation anyway.

Thank you and goodnight.

Your post only serves to act as support for Connor Macleod, but provides no new information. You need to reread the thread again because you clearly did not grasp the essence of the exchanges between Connor Macleod and myself. Allow me to summarize it for you ...

It's his position that the query X Y is not the same as X AND Y, where in this particular case X is Alexis and Y is BangBus.

"However, your search term was flawed. You get better results with Alexis AND bangbus. Using the AND will eliminate hundreds, possibly thousands of results."​

I disproved this by providing the screen capture that showed the two searches were equivalent. He then claimed I must be using a different search page since his (undocumented) results differed from mine. I then pointed out to him the search results are identical if one used simple search or advanced search. Finally, I asked him to show me what search page he's using (if different from simple search or advanced search) and provide an example of an X, Y where the search query X Y does not return the same results as X AND Y. He's failed to do this and his arguments can best be summarized here.

Now that I think about it, in post #17, he claimed he got different results with and without use of the AND operator :

Alexis AND BangBus --- results=12
Alexis OR BangBus ---- results=5000
Alexis BangBus ------- results=5000​

How could Alexis AND BangBus return only 12 results since the actual number was closer to 40 at the time he made his post? :

 
I actually can't believe what I'm reading so I felt the need to sign up just to make this post. Connor Macleod and Theloneranger are both idiots and clearly do not understand how search engines on forums work. Simply put, having the word 'and' WILL NOT refine your results because the search engine does not take into account any words that have 3 characters or less. You can even search the terms "alexis bangbus ber" "alexis fdd bangbus" and it will yield all the same results but say for example you search "alexis fddd bangbus" you will get nothing.

Edit: Also lol at "from another senior member who thought you were laughable as you just cannot accept the fact that you are wrong."
and Theloneranger's join date is Apr 2011. Clearly he is kissing your ass as you're a moderator, now isn't that laughable?
 
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