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Who is gonna win the NBA Finals!!!!!!
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u gave me no choice, were r the lakers, suns, memphis, bulls etc? u neva know
qweretyuiopas@
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O yeah Detroit is goin to take it all even if they have to play the Spurs again they will take the chapionship back to the D-Town Pistons all the wayyy
JizzHack said:
Before I start, I just want to say, thank you for arguing.:1orglaugh
REGULAR SEASON. You know what that means to the Spurs? Practice, tune-ups, and getting ready for the big show. It's a given every year that the Spurs will make the playoffs with at least home-court advantage, if not the best record in the West/NBA. Any regular season losses by the Spurs can be immediately thrown out. The Spurs lost to the Hawks, OH MY GOD! The Pistons lost to the Jazz TWICE! Doesn't mean jack shit. The Spurs were dealing with an unhealthy Manu Ginobilli, and Poppovich was learning how to rework the offense more around the emerging Tony Parker.
Deeper? Definetely. The Pistons have essentially been running a 6 man show the whole season (Antonio McDyess), and fans should be praising the Lord that none of the starters have missed a single game, save Sheed's suspension for the T's. Their bench has gotten worse every year since the actually won in 04. Who's going to come in if Chauncey goes down? Tony Delk?!?:1orglaugh
The Spurs, on the other hand, have several players that can come in and contribute off the bench. Michael Finley, Nick Van Exel, Brent Barry, Robert Horry and Rasho Nesterovic could all start and beat some of the League's sad-sack team. And they're the bench! That's a 10 man rotation! The Spurs also boast one of the best (and most annoying) perimeter defenders in basketball, Mr. Bruce Bowen.
As for experience, that comes down to two factors. The first is Tim Duncan. While the Pistons starting 5 have that championship from 2 years ago, T-Robot has been winning titles since his days as part of the Twin Towers with David Robinson. I believe he has 3. He may not be much in the regular season, but we both know that once the playoffs hit, it's like Clark Kent to Superman. Witness the NASTY statline he put on New Jersey in 03: 30, 20, 10 and 8. That's what he can do when the pressure is on. He is arguably the best PF ever to play.
The second major factor is coaching. Flip Saunders is great, and should've never been fired from Minnesota. However, he's been to the Western Finals once, and every other year has been bounced in the first round. I also believe that he runs to much of a lacsidasical approach to the Pistons, and it shows by there issues with being down a ton in the first half. Coach Gregg Poppovich, on the other hand, is no stranger to the REAL Finals, and to winning it all. He definetely has an experience advantage, and that plays a huge role in such a high-pressure situation. Some consider him the best coach in ANY sport over the last 10 years. He's definetely consistent.
I'll agree with one thing, however, last year was anybody's serious. It was a true war of attrition, a baller's delight. The teams were almost perfectly matched. The difference is, while the Pistons have gotten worse, the Spurs have added weapons in preparation for the final battle.
FYI, My longest post EVER!
qweretyuiopas@
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I clap for the effort Black Star
and congrats on the longest post.
You talk about how if any of the piston starters get hurt we may be screwed, but right above that you say "The Spurs were dealing with an unhealthy Manu Ginobilli" so what if he got hurt if they have a 10 man rotation if shouldnt have mattered. Bottom line if either team has a hurt starter it will make it harder for them. O yeah Horry aint shit lol exel and berry are just meh
The Pistons win in 7 but I will admit it will be a close and good series. Unlike the spurs/lakers finals a few years back. Boy that was boring
Go Pistons!
and congrats on the longest post.
You talk about how if any of the piston starters get hurt we may be screwed, but right above that you say "The Spurs were dealing with an unhealthy Manu Ginobilli" so what if he got hurt if they have a 10 man rotation if shouldnt have mattered. Bottom line if either team has a hurt starter it will make it harder for them. O yeah Horry aint shit lol exel and berry are just meh
The Pistons win in 7 but I will admit it will be a close and good series. Unlike the spurs/lakers finals a few years back. Boy that was boring
Go Pistons!
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lets go bucks but i like Miami but we all have to be real its the spurs cuz i pick there bench over the pistons
JizzHack said:
Regular season doesn't really mean anything until the final month when teams fight for playoff spots and home court.
Playoffs is where the real season begins, anything can happen.
Either way it will be a much better series. It will go 6 or 7 games once again.
Give me a team that runs up and down the court and plays like a team anyday over a single superstar.chronotrigger said:hey, why isnt the phoenix suns included in the poll? seriously, i think they are a highly competitive team even though they dont have a real "super player."
Phoenix wasn't included because they are Not beating Dallas or San Antonio. I like the steve nash and shawn marrion combination but that fact that they play no defense is a big factor
It just sucks that Dallas and San Antonio will not meet in the conference finals. So it's pretty much decided between the 2nd round series, if it does end up being the Mavs and Spurs (which I predict will happen), who will be going to the finals. No other Western Conference team can match up with neither team.
Like they always say defense wins championships, the Spurs have had that mentaility from the getgo, and Dallas is slowly getting there.
Phoenix today is what Dallas was a few seasons ago, all offense and no defense. If Stoudamire stays healthy and Nash as well, they can become a contender. Till then for I say the next 3 or 4 seasons it's either the Spurs or Mavs.
Don't deny about the Spurs either, all of their star players (Duncan, Ginobili, Parker)are signed until 2009 and beyond. They will also get more veterans who want to win and with a team they know can win championships
Mark my word the Spurs can double their rings total by the end of the decade. Which is what 6?
Like they always say defense wins championships, the Spurs have had that mentaility from the getgo, and Dallas is slowly getting there.
Phoenix today is what Dallas was a few seasons ago, all offense and no defense. If Stoudamire stays healthy and Nash as well, they can become a contender. Till then for I say the next 3 or 4 seasons it's either the Spurs or Mavs.
Don't deny about the Spurs either, all of their star players (Duncan, Ginobili, Parker)are signed until 2009 and beyond. They will also get more veterans who want to win and with a team they know can win championships
Mark my word the Spurs can double their rings total by the end of the decade. Which is what 6?
This post is a rebuttle to JizzHack's.
The Pistons bench can't hold a candle to the Spurs. Sure, San Antonio has aging veterans waiting to check in, but Detroit doesn't? Hmm, let's take a look...
Kelvin Cato - 8 years pro
Dale Davis - 9 years pro
Tony Delk - 14 years pro
Antonio McDyess - 9 years pro
Lindsey Hunter - 12 years pro
The only young players the Pistons have on the bench that will see any playoff floor time are Carlos Delfino and Maurice Evans, both of which are mainly just time fillers at this point in their career.
The common theme with the Spurs bench is they can straight up SCORE. Say what you will about Finley, Van Exel, Barry and especially Horry, but all can give you buckets without paralyzing the D.
The reason the Spurs haven't looked as masterful as the Pistons is because of what I mentioned earlier. The Spurs are coy, they're clever. They don't show the goods, and part of that is the ingenius coaching of Gregg Poppovich. He found away to beat a scarier Pistons team last year, so I have trust he can do the same.
Yes, one player does make a difference, in basketball more than in any other sport. It's a granted that when there's only 10 guys on the court, one guy can have a severe impact on the overall game. This is definetely true for Tim Duncan. He's the best leader in the NBA, and we both know he is a beast when the time comes. Something tells me this year he won't be as obvious, but he can still cause Rasheed some serious issues.
No, the Pistons haven't come out of nowhere, but have the Spurs? Haven't these guys arguably been the most consistent NBA team over the last decade? Don't quote me, but I believe their win percentage since 1996 is about .710.
Flip is not COTY, unfortunately. Avery Johnson is. His ingenius coaching techniques(see: Avery's c-fense) and defensive intensity have taken the team from long time Western contender to legitimate competition for the Spurs. That is the only advantage Detroit has, no team to bother them until the Finals. Hopefully the Pistons won't become complacent.
Spurs, whether it takes 4 games or 7.
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To Freakybastard, about the Spurs doubling their ring total by 2010.
There is one problem with that statement, one HUGE problem.
His name is Lebron James, and he has the most raw talent the NBA has ever seen.
The Pistons bench can't hold a candle to the Spurs. Sure, San Antonio has aging veterans waiting to check in, but Detroit doesn't? Hmm, let's take a look...
Kelvin Cato - 8 years pro
Dale Davis - 9 years pro
Tony Delk - 14 years pro
Antonio McDyess - 9 years pro
Lindsey Hunter - 12 years pro
The only young players the Pistons have on the bench that will see any playoff floor time are Carlos Delfino and Maurice Evans, both of which are mainly just time fillers at this point in their career.
The common theme with the Spurs bench is they can straight up SCORE. Say what you will about Finley, Van Exel, Barry and especially Horry, but all can give you buckets without paralyzing the D.
The reason the Spurs haven't looked as masterful as the Pistons is because of what I mentioned earlier. The Spurs are coy, they're clever. They don't show the goods, and part of that is the ingenius coaching of Gregg Poppovich. He found away to beat a scarier Pistons team last year, so I have trust he can do the same.
Yes, one player does make a difference, in basketball more than in any other sport. It's a granted that when there's only 10 guys on the court, one guy can have a severe impact on the overall game. This is definetely true for Tim Duncan. He's the best leader in the NBA, and we both know he is a beast when the time comes. Something tells me this year he won't be as obvious, but he can still cause Rasheed some serious issues.
No, the Pistons haven't come out of nowhere, but have the Spurs? Haven't these guys arguably been the most consistent NBA team over the last decade? Don't quote me, but I believe their win percentage since 1996 is about .710.
Flip is not COTY, unfortunately. Avery Johnson is. His ingenius coaching techniques(see: Avery's c-fense) and defensive intensity have taken the team from long time Western contender to legitimate competition for the Spurs. That is the only advantage Detroit has, no team to bother them until the Finals. Hopefully the Pistons won't become complacent.
Spurs, whether it takes 4 games or 7.
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To Freakybastard, about the Spurs doubling their ring total by 2010.
There is one problem with that statement, one HUGE problem.
His name is Lebron James, and he has the most raw talent the NBA has ever seen.
qweretyuiopas@
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Black Star said:
Speaking of that:
Mavericks' Johnson named NBA Coach of Year
April 25, 2006
NEW YORK (Ticker) - After helping the Dallas Mavericks get defensive, Avery Johnson received a prestigious honor.
Johnson, whose Mavericks set a new franchise record for fewest points allowed per game, on Tuesday was named the NBA's Coach of the Year in his first full season with the Western Conference power.
Johnson received 63 first-place votes and 419 points. Phoenix's Mike D'Antoni, the winner last year, was second with 27 first-place votes and 247 points, while Detroit's Flip Saunders was third with 18 and 223, respectively.
After Don Nelson resigned on March 19, 2005, Johnson took over the club and went 16-2 with the Mavericks, who lost in the Western Conference semifinals to the Phoenix Suns. With Johnson stressing the need to play better defense, the Mavericks yielded just 93.1 points per game this season and finished with a franchise record-tying 60 wins. Johnson needed just 62 games to reach 50 career wins, the fewest in NBA history, and also set the best 82-game mark (66-16).
"He got a great opportunity, and he's a great coach who took that opportunity and ran with it," Nelson told the Dallas Morning News, which reported Johnson would win Monday night. "He deserves the Coach of the Year, and I couldn't be happier for him. Not everybody gets a chance to step into a winning situation like this.
"It's a terrific honor for him and his whole staff. They helped make it happen."
But despite posting the third-best record in the NBA, the Mavs finished three games behind the San Antonio Spurs in the Southwest Division and would have to face them were both teams to advance to the conference semifinals. Both Dallas and San Antonio hold 1-0 leads, over Memphis and Sacramento, respectively.
Too bad they aint winning the championship lol :1orglaugh
qweretyuiopas@ said:
See, I was right about that, and I had no clue he won. Guess we'll see about those Spurs, eh?
Michelle_Akemi said:
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Suns maybe, will make the second round at least...
Bulls, lookin good against Miami, but a long shot....
Lakers, will have it tough against the Suns, they dont play team ball...
Memphis, I would like them to make it, but against a tough West, wont make it to the 2nd round
THe NBA is still going? Kinda hard to believe since TV ratings rival that of the Dog show. Nobody likes basketball anymore. NASCAR is a much, much better sport. The NBA is about thugs and little else.
oh dear...
Damn I haven't laughed that good in a while.flowertuccifan said:
