What You Think You Know About Sept. 11

[Peter Gazinya]

What I think I know about it is that, even five years later, many Americans are still obsessed with it because it happened to their country.

3,400 died violently in Iraq last month alone, but sadly, they don't have time to obsess about it because they're too busy being scared how many are going to die the next month, and the next, and the next.

While sitting their fat asses on the couch watching Oprah and Dr. Phil, many Americans have PLENTY of time to obsess about it but they're not going to because those 3400 didn't die on their FRONT DOOR STEP. Again, I don't know who the fuck is scared, I haven't met anybody yet. The only thing I'm "scared" of is not having enough gas to run my truck, motorcycle, boat, race car, and lawnmower.

I am an American because I have lived here since 1999, my papers finally came through two years ago, and I will be able to vote in the next election, my first election. So technically, I am now an American. Even though I personally consider anyone who lives here and calls this place home to be as American as you or I.

That's cool Fox but next election, PLEASE don't vote. Don't contribute to the implicit support of whatever power mongering megalomaniac that ascends to white house in 2008. The mere fact that someone would even run for president is evidence of an overwhelming sociopathic sickness of criminal proportions. Again, if you think there's a solution then you are part of the problem.

I noticed you said you're a musician. Now I see you so much clearer, both the verbosity and utopian visions are now fully explained. Please don't take that as an insult dude, it's just and observation :thumbsup:

 

[georges]

I don't bash America, I bash the American government, for good reason, and as an American that is my right. In fact, anyone in the rest of the world has the right to bash the American government too, and that kind of openness and freedom of speech should be encouraged everywhere, not just here.

I am an American because I have lived here since 1999, my papers finally came through two years ago, and I will be able to vote in the next election, my first election. So technically, I am now an American. Even though I personally consider anyone who lives here and calls this place home to be as American as you or I.

Peace to you, and peace to Vader. Like it or not, there are Americans like you, there are Americans like me, and the vast majority are vastly different than both of us, c'est la vie. Like the Professor said in the other thread, the good thing about this place is, we're all supposed to be able to live together and live and let live, I can bash the gvmt, you support them, we're all free.

Fox

PS Mandela, Gorbachev, are my heroes. I was wondering: what do you think of Mandela generally? Not in economic terms, but what do you think of Nelson Mandela, the man, the politics, etc... also, what were your feelings on the Apartheid system of South Africa? Be honest.

The fact that South Africa is a dangerous country where to live, with aids and other problems that tells you a lot about how things were and are managed by governments. What did Mandela that was positive for South Africa? The ANC looks like a leftist/communist party and I never liked communism/leftism as well as parties backing those up so my view on it will not be good.
The part if my family who lives in USA has always been republican and I always was from the right wing/republican so that may explain why my views are very different from yours. Gorbatchev ruined many people and he is not a hero but a dolt.

 

[georges]

Fair enough Georges, but Mandela did help liberate the blacks in South Africa. So what did you think of that apartheid system, anyway? Good and bad points?

He liberated them but fact is that the country is not at its best in terms of economics and in terms of social cohabitation between blacks and whites, it is not that great.
The apartheid system was very restrictive and too unfair against blacks, mandela gave them freedom but fact is that despite this there is no improvement of the situation.Apartheid or not, when persons haven't received an education and don't know how to read, write and understand what they are told, how do you want to have a country with a good future?
From the late 30's till the death of Brejnev, everyone in Russia was able to have a high education, was able to fullfill a real scholar program system despite it was in a commie regime, everyone were taught values like respect, honor and working hard. Russia of today is far to be what it used to be.