What Do You Love About America?

Elwood70

Torn & Frayed.
^almost got me..

 
^I like how America is bigger than America, and I mean that in the physical sense, not just philosophically.

Which reminds me, why are europe and asia two separate continents when they are one contiguous land mass? And look at the border - it's basically a straight line. Someone was being arbitrary.

But I digress.

America - we don't punt on 3rd down.
 
I have been saying that shit about mexican panhandling since long before I ever knew who the Texas version of Frank Burns was dude. I have also said you never seen bald homeless people. You gonna say I ripped that off of liver lips too?

We are a nation of laws that work for the wealthy and not so much for those who aren't wealthy. I understood what you said I just think you are such a fucking weird out of touch wannabe it makes me giggle. You make no sense.
 
^I like how America is bigger than America, and I mean that in the physical sense, not just philosophically. No doubt we live in the greatest Nation on Earth, our Great Freedoms are unparalleled and are still the shining example to the rest of the World. How many other countries do you hear people clawing over themselves to get to? Nope, you don't hear anyone saying how bad they wish they could move to France, or England, or China. This is still the land of the people, for the people, by the people, God Bless The USA! Happy Birthday, 'Merica!

overly patriotic bullshit. If you care to watch actual world news, you will see that there are literally millions of people all over the world 'clawing' over themselves to get into other countries. Right now theres thousands and thousands of migrants fleeing places like Libya and Syria desperately trying to find a new life in other countries. The UK is one of most diverse countries in the world compared to it's size.

As for your unparalleled freedoms you speak of, was it not only in the last week that same sex marriage was made legal across the country? Hardly the land of the free is it when two people who love each other were unable to marry because they happened to be of the same sex.
 
overly patriotic bullshit. If you care to watch actual world news, you will see that there are literally millions of people all over the world 'clawing' over themselves to get into other countries. Right now theres thousands and thousands of migrants fleeing places like Libya and Syria desperately trying to find a new life in other countries. The UK is one of most diverse countries in the world compared to it's size.

As for your unparalleled freedoms you speak of, was it not only in the last week that same sex marriage was made legal across the country? Hardly the land of the free is it when two people who love each other were unable to marry because they happened to be of the same sex.

Haha, you're learning what it's been like for me living here all these years. Shipping people into Australia is a huge business too.

As for personal freedom, here are the rankings http://patrickrhamey.com/saturday-research/2015/4/15/2015-state-of-world-liberty-index Oops, USA is not in the top 10. But how can that be? You can buy guns here, and that is the very definition of freedom!
 

Rattrap

Doesn't feed trolls and would appreciate it if you
Haha, you're learning what it's been like for me living here all these years. Shipping people into Australia is a huge business too.

As for personal freedom, here are the rankings http://patrickrhamey.com/saturday-research/2015/4/15/2015-state-of-world-liberty-index Oops, USA is not in the top 10. But how can that be? You can buy guns here, and that is the very definition of freedom!
I have to say I find these rankings suspect. Mainly because they exclude something I feel is rather important:
Note, the ranking is not reflective of, nor does it include, political or electoral rights.

Hong Kong tying for first is a little bit of a red flag, although perhaps without that (imo) important criteria above, perhaps it's true.
 
I have to say I find these rankings suspect. Mainly because they exclude something I feel is rather important:

Well, thanks to the SCOTUS taking apart the voting rights act, and the electoral college bullshit, if the data did include political and electoral rights, the USA would probably rank even lower.
 
On one hand I think every year finding things to like about the US gets harder and harder to do. We still make the best entertainment in the world...and that's about it. A lot of our freedoms are eroding. I can't and haven't been able to look at myself with a strait face and pretend the US is the best nation on the Earth since before my teenage years when I still didn't know better and actually believed the tripe about how great we were. We don't have the most free populace, or the most wealth (when considering how poor off the most poor in the country are), the best education, the best infrastructure, the best health or health care (when considering access and cost to all people), or that bright of a future anymore, even thought supposedly we are the "richest country in the history of the planet".

Then again for all the people that like to spout on about how the country was better in the past, want nostalgia, and think we had more freedom in the past, they seem to gloss over whole gigantic sections of this country's history like: slavery and extremely brutal chattel slavery at that and how we were on top of that embarrassingly one of the last Western nations to get rid of it and it took a civil war to do it at that, the mass killing and relocating of Native Americans, Jim Crow laws, segregation, the Klu Klux Klan who got away with what they did through the backing of the support of the populace where they lived, the virtual owning of women as a husband's property, women not having the right to vote and being considered second class human beings, robber barons, company towns where they virtually owned their workers and keep them forcefully in and perpetually in the company's debt, brutal swing shifts in coal mines with no overtime, child labor, no labor or environmental protections or standards, people not being able to have more than a third grade education because it wasn't offered, the government having no problem with the poor dying of hunger as their was no safety net, Japanese interment camps during WWII, and only now how we are starting to get out of treating some people under the law as second class human beings because of sexual orientation.

Yeah, things were just so much better and more free back then. :rolleyes:

I do give thanks we were the birthplace of the modern democratic republic which nearly all non-totalitarian countries have followed in our example the last couple hundred years. A lot of people have died for us to get and maintain that, and I give those people tremendous thanks for that. The US ushering a better modern system of governance is great thing, and should be celebrated, but it’s also a point that too many people try to rely on when it comes to turning a blind eye to very significant ills our country has now and has had in the past.
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
overly patriotic bullshit.

I'll stop you right there, friend, it's my country's birthday and I'll be as overly patriotic as I like. I know the homeland of my ancestors is still stuck to the English tit, but hey, you know, that's on ya'll, don't be bitter.
 
Xfire iis the only lib so far that can articulate why he loves his country, without going off on a tangent about what is wrong with it, or hopes it will be.

Or coming up with crap about mountains, seasides and Redwood trees.

As much as I disagree with him, if more libs took his approach, there might be something worthy of trying to come together on.

Kudos.
 

BlkHawk

Closed Account
Canada made the world suffer with Beiber, we responded with Taylor Swift. At least ours has great legs.
 

Rattrap

Doesn't feed trolls and would appreciate it if you
Well, thanks to the SCOTUS taking apart the voting rights act, and the electoral college bullshit, if the data did include political and electoral rights, the USA would probably rank even lower.
Even if the worst of all that were true, we'd be higher than Hong Kong (let's not forget about this). There's plenty to criticize and improve (see D-rock's post), but let's be realistic.

That said, there is something I can unequivically get behind that is all American:
With Independence Day upon us I ask a simple question: What do you love about America?
NASA. Through NASA decades ago America achieved amazing feats that no other countries are even near to doing today. We're currently receiving photos of a planet(oid or whatever) 4.28 billion km away because of NASA. Mankind's farthest reach is 19,626,095,000+ km away from the earth because of NASA.

NASA is proper American exceptionalism.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
That we still have the potential to rise above the foolishness that currently envelopes us and do better. Whether we will do it or not is another question.
 
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