Welfare

Welfare helps a lot of people, in all honesty. But, some people just take advantage of it and, quite frankly, don't fucking deserve to be on welfare. I'm not saying that I have an impossible life to live, but there are people who make more money than I do and qualify for welfare. I can pay my bills and I make less than some people on welfare, sooooo...:dunno:

But, like I said, welfare helps a lot of people who actually need. It's just that some deserve it and some don't.

:2 cents:

Yep. Same here. In fact, there has been one year in my 32 that I made over 20 grand. Seriously. But I have my bills paid, or caught up, I'm a full time student at Colorado State, I have a running vehicle that is insured and registered.......I could have, at points in my recent past, applied for welfare, or other similar programs, but I have chosen not to.

Why?

I don't really need it. I don't have a wife and family to try and support.

Programs like welfare are essential for families out there who are trying to scrape by on 7.50 an hour. Even with both parents (if both are still around) working at a job like that, even 50-60 hours a week, they are not going to make it when a simple visit to the local ER costs upwards of a grand or two.

Does that make it right that some people abuse the system, and collect when they shouldn't? Of course not. But the fact remains that programs like this help people who genuinely need help.

Hey Legz.......tell the mom who has to make the choice between heat or food for her and her three kids that welfare has been stopped.

By the way Legz, in my scenario, they are any race, not just the one who you stupidly and hatefully pointed out.

I'm white. So is my brother. And the mother that raised the two of us when my dead beat fucking waste of a "father" ran out on us years ago. She worked her ass off as a waitress. Went to school full time. Still wasn't enough. If it hadn't been for government programs like this one, we may have never escaped a trailer park outside of Philly.

So Legz, and anybody else small minded and hate filled enough to think like him, maybe you should realize that hunger and desperation don't play favorites....they don't care what the fuck color your skin is, or who you pray to.




Go Flyers.
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
There are side effects with all medicines. I know people who are bi-polar and their medication does help them a lot, side effects or not.

The medicine won't work for me. I will not take pill after pill with all the many side affects that they can cause.

Is it a nerve problem? I mean, you couldn't sit and work? Customer service centers (call centers) hire a lot of people with leg problems because you don't have to stand. Or, data entry, internet data, etc.

With all my problems I can't work anywhere.

Unfortunately, your doctor isn't the US Government. I'm not saying this stuff to be a dick; this is just how it works.

My uncle is "disabled" because he is blind, but he doesn't get any government funds. He had to work to support himself, just like everybody else (with obvious exceptions). Like I said, it might not be a dream situation, but I'm sure there is something that you can do.

Well, he isn't, but two doctors now have said I am disabled and Legal Aid told me they will help me with my case. So, I should have my Disability money soon.
 

Facetious

Moderated
By the way Legz, in my scenario, they are any race, not just the one who you stupidly and hatefully pointed out.

I'm white. So is my brother.

Right, Legz appears frustrated at what he sees in and around his community, perfectly capable, healthy bodies, who choose to take the easy street route (welfare).
It's not Legz' fault that the welfare demographic is overwhelmingly lopsided the way it is, that's the fault of our govt. !

"All men are created equal" ? The government doesn't seem to think so.

:2 cents:
 
since there is no justice in the world, why not to fuck the system in all the possible ways?

government is fucking the whole society every day. all that "civil servants" and bureaucrats with their corrupt practices, bribes and all that stuff are full of shit.

not to mention that all politics are assholes by nature. they lie, they betray, they care about themselves only and talk shit.

those pigs alltogether are called the government. and they are the system.

all that governor, senators and members of the administration - they all are thieves. no wonder - they go into this business for money. or do you ever think that for serving the nation? fuck that.

and when dealing with thieves and assholes, you have all the moral rights to fuck them. it's like fuck or be fucked. system is fucking you, or you fucking the system. yes, there is another option: to be at the top of that system - to become a polititian or something like that. but for the majority of common people there are two options only.

So I would never blame those, who decided to trick the government. cuz government itself is the biggest tricker and gangster of all times.

"tax optimization" (in other words tricks not to pay taxes) is not a crime to my mind.
fucking and tricking on a welfare system is not a crime.
any other action, which prevents government from taking your money, or, vice versa, gives you opportunity to take money from the government is not a crime.

one must howl with the wolves! the army of bill collectors, prosecutors, polititians, bureaucrats and other officials try to trick you all the time. These are the rules they impose to everybody, so no wonder that some people accept them, and start to trick them back.

Either they take my (and yours) money and buy a new yacht for themselves (ever heard of poor civil servant?), or I will take some of their money and buy what I want. The amounts of money that are stolen every minute by thousands of "civil servants" is in million times bigger than the amount of money spent on welfare (and buncha other "social programms").

PS: I am not on a welfare. But if had any opportunity to fuck the system, I'd be glad to do it!
 
since there is no justice in the world, why not to fuck the system in all the possible ways?

government is fucking the whole society every day. all that "civil servants" and bureaucrats with their corrupt practices, bribes and all that stuff are full of shit.

not to mention that all politics are assholes by nature. they lie, they betray, they care about themselves only and talk shit.

those pigs alltogether are called the government. and they are the system.

all that governor, senators and members of the administration - they all are thieves. no wonder - they go into this business for money. or do you ever think that for serving the nation? fuck that.

and when dealing with thieves and assholes, you have all the moral rights to fuck them. it's like fuck or be fucked. system is fucking you, or you fucking the system. yes, there is another option: to be at the top of that system - to become a polititian or something like that. but for the majority of common people there are two options only.

So I would never blame those, who decided to trick the government. cuz government itself is the biggest tricker and gangster of all times.

"tax optimization" (in other words tricks not to pay taxes) is not a crime to my mind.
fucking and tricking on a welfare system is not a crime.
any other action, which prevents government from taking your money, or, vice versa, gives you opportunity to take money from the government is not a crime.

one must howl with the wolves! the army of bill collectors, prosecutors, polititians, bureaucrats and other officials try to trick you all the time. These are the rules they impose to everybody, so no wonder that some people accept them, and start to trick them back.

Either they take my (and yours) money and buy a new yacht for themselves (ever heard of poor civil servant?), or I will take some of their money and buy what I want. The amounts of money that are stolen every minute by thousands of "civil servants" is in million times bigger than the amount of money spent on welfare (and buncha other "social programms").

PS: I am not on a welfare. But if had any opportunity to fuck the system, I'd be glad to do it!



I agree with all of this 100%. We're all just running around like a bunch of mice who are being looked down on by a pack of large and hungry cats.

I'm no racist asshole, but if you're white in america, you're fucked. I'm so sick of blacks and hispanics going on about how "white people" have and get everything. Bullshit. The working class white guy is probably the most fucked person in the country to be honest. He goes and works hard all day, only to be paid barely anything, be denied benefits and social security, and then has to give a good chunk of his check every week to the government for no good reason. That's getting everything? Sounds more like getting handed the shit end of the stick to me. And those same people who say that are the ones sitting on their asses all the time, drinking and partying and laughing at the government behind their backs because they've got over on them.

Over all, the government I'd say is out worst enemy and if the entire country as a whole would get some balls, these assholes wouldn't be so tough. Stand up to them for once, and show them were not the peasants they make us out to be.:2 cents:
 
we spend entirely to much on welfare just so fuckin EDITblacks/EDIT can abuse the system. I hear obama wants to give them fucks even more money.
I've known a shitload of white people who abuse the fuck out of the system. The alleged "sugar mommas" are no longer the main issue.
 
To all y'all who say they should cut off welfare, I guess you people don't know WHY people decide to go on welfare and stay that way....
You think those people like to live that way? A lot of people have some psychological problems and are kinda depressed or have some other mental problems why they can't go to work....

To all you people who complain about how hard you work etc. etc. Well, good for you but stop complaining bout how a part of your tax money goes to welfare, just live your life and stop bitchin' bout other people cuz you prolly don't know half the reasons why they're on welfare, maybe they're lazy that could be, but I'm sure there's a lot of other reasons....
 
You can judge a society by the way it treats it's weekest members.

If follow that logic, the best hypothetical society is the society where bums are provided with bentleys, villas and buncha sexy chicks for serving their cocks three time a day. All for free, of course.

Alas, this one is way too hypothetical. Though I agree, it would be cool! Where can I get a ticket to the wonderland?? I admit that I love quick quids, freebies and all that shit The only problem is that no one will have a motivation to work in such like 'perfect' society.

This makes me think that this theory sucks, though it sounds good for using in rhetoric purposes.
 

girk1

Closed Account
Both YES

By the way, have you ever thought bout the fact that if you wouldn't have no welfare crime would be much higher?

Yes there will be always be poor people ,but to completely ignore them will not solve the problem. Brazil is a prime example of what you speak of as the poor there have been ignored/abused for so long it has translated into one of the most crime ridden nations in the world. (Not saying that most welfare recipients would resort to crime ,but some will).

Two societies of the extremely rich & devestatingly poor which leads to frustration,resentment & desperation. The very miniscule 1 or 2 percent of the US budget paid to welfare recipients is a pittance compared to the potential costs of courts, law enforcement,prisons , poor health & perhaps even civil unrest.

The extreme infatuation with the tiny one or two percent of the US budget is irrational to say the least.
 
If follow that logic, the best hypothetical society is the society where bums are provided with bentleys, villas and buncha sexy chicks for serving their cocks three time a day. All for free, of course.

It has happened before that someone doesn't understand what I'm trying to say but not like this. This is just unbelievable and I really hope that kind of thinking isn't tipical for the average American because if it is there is no hope for America.
 
It has happened before that someone doesn't understand what I'm trying to say but not like this. This is just unbelievable and I really hope that kind of thinking isn't tipical for the average American because if it is there is no hope for America.

Exaggeration is a way to denude the imperfection of the theory before it has been implemented.
Cuz in reality all the theories tend to assume the most ugly shapes.

In other words - give him an inch and he'll take an ell.
 

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
I think a lot of people are ignoring how many people actually abuse the system. Yes, the system has flaws, but it's the people that take advantage of those flaws that are the biggest problem.

I have a cousin is in her early 30's. She is married and has 2 young daughters. She has a job at a doctor's office where she helps take care of terminally ill patients. Her salary pays her a little over $20,000/year. Her husband also works, making over $45,000/year as a factory worker.

Together, they make $65,000+/year. They bought a pretty decent sized house for themselves and are currently paying the mortgage on it. They are also paying the mortgage for the husband's mother (my cousin's mother-in-law).

My cousin receives a monthly welfare check from the United States government.

Yes, my cousin, who can manage to pay the mortgage on 2 houses and raise 2 small children, receives a monthly welfare check from the United States government. She is a prime example of people are taking advantage of the flaws in the system. She doesn't need welfare, but there is a loophole that qualifies her for welfare. So, she takes advantage of that.

Scum. Pure scum.

With all my problems I can't work anywhere.

Not to sound like a dick again, but you can obviously use a computer. You could get a job that allows you to work from home on a computer.

I'm just saying...

:dunno:
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
Not to sound like a dick again, but you can obviously use a computer. You could get a job that allows you to work from home on a computer.

I'm just saying...

:dunno:

Depending on what it is, maybe. But, who wants to train me to do this job?

No one, they expect me to know the job already.

I was listening to 700WLW, and someone was talking about a woman that receives her Social Security and she has a well paying job breeding horses.

So, there isn't any reason someone like me can't receive my money as well.
 
If follow that logic, the best hypothetical society is the society where bums are provided with bentleys, villas and buncha sexy chicks for serving their cocks three time a day. All for free, of course.
Is what you're describing the best society? All you described was a society where materialism is not only championed but forced upon the people:rolleyes:

I think it was Doestyevsky who said that line that Boothbabe mentioned above, but he said you judge a society by how it treats its prisoners. Hmmm. What would Fyodor say about Gitmo? Abu Ghraib?
 

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
Depending on what it is, maybe. But, who wants to train me to do this job?

No one, they expect me to know the job already.

Customer service centers, call centers, libraries, banks, etc.

Those are all places that are more than willing to train someone to fill their positions.

I was listening to 700WLW, and someone was talking about a woman that receives her Social Security and she has a well paying job breeding horses.

So, there isn't any reason someone like me can't receive my money as well.

Is that woman retired? Did she pay into her SS for years and years and years? Is she of the proper age to qualify to receive her SS? Does she fit the proper requirements to qualify for receiving her SS?

:dunno:
 
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