"V" for Vendetta
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Maybe the novel was great... The movie sucked big time...
I think that "1984" was way better... Ironically, John Hurt also played in that movie but in the role of one of the "victims"...
Seems like "V" director had no screenplay and improvised the movie from beginning to end...:*****: :fight:
I think that "1984" was way better... Ironically, John Hurt also played in that movie but in the role of one of the "victims"...
Seems like "V" director had no screenplay and improvised the movie from beginning to end...:*****: :fight:
om3ga
It's good to be the king...
Enjoyed the movie - but only after I stopped comparing it to the original B&W Brit comic (V was more anarchic, Evey was much younger, etc)....however to me both comic & movie accuses the public for our apparent nonchalance over our government's actions.
"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people."
"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people."
I agree with you there my friend, Alan Moore writes on so many levels thats it hard NOT to compare his comic material to his movies (shame he took his name off of this one, but i believe he should do what Frank Miller did:if you're tired of how your work is represented on the big screen, then do it your damn self then you only have yourself to blame if it turns out crappy, just my opinion)
I liked the notion that an idea is more important than the man enforcing it (or women or whomever), so many people have complained to me "they never show his face, who was she, etc." that they fail to realize that things happen all over the world we are not aware of and we never see who the people are that do it. Does that make sense?
I mean, 9/11 happened and i dont recall ever seeing the faces of the hijackers on the news, it was 5 years ago but still. That act alone ****** all those people and i dont know what they looked like, so in a sense they represented an idea a la' V= faceless men committing deeds intending to change the world but denying their victims the chance to see their faces.
Wow, rambling here, better wrap it up.
Violator79
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I never saw 1984. I need to hunt that one down.
1984 :hatsoff:
om3ga
It's good to be the king...
I agree with you there my friend, Alan Moore writes on so many levels thats it hard NOT to compare his comic material to his movies (shame he took his name off of this one, but i believe he should do what Frank Miller did:if you're tired of how your work is represented on the big screen, then do it your damn self then you only have yourself to blame if it turns out crappy, just my opinion)
I liked the notion that an idea is more important than the man enforcing it (or women or whomever), so many people have complained to me "they never show his face, who was she, etc." that they fail to realize that things happen all over the world we are not aware of and we never see who the people are that do it. Does that make sense?
I mean, 9/11 happened and i dont recall ever seeing the faces of the hijackers on the news, it was 5 years ago but still. That act alone ****** all those people and i dont know what they looked like, so in a sense they represented an idea a la' V= faceless men committing deeds intending to change the world but denying their victims the chance to see their faces.
Wow, rambling here, better wrap it up.
People are missing the point about V's face. His identity isn't important to the movie. But the idea behind that mask was. At the end of the movie, where the people watches the destruction with their "V" masks, to me all of them are V.
And if we had seen his face, it would ruin the flick (just like the unmasking of Dredd, helped to ruin Judge Dredd - someone should have told Stallone that Dredd never revealed his face in the comic).
Still, for a drama about politics, it's good (but imo, not as good as "G.B.H.", a 1991 TV mini-series, repeated last night)...
Exactly, i agree wholeheartedly (is that spelled right? LOL).
WHO he was is not as important as WHAT he does.
I too thought Judge Dredd should have gone unmasked, i found out about 2000 A.D. comics in 1983 thru a local book store and just loved the stories and the characters, especially Strontium Dog and the A.B.C. Warriors.
Dredd was even given a name in the early 90's DC Comics (re)launching of the title and i hated it with a passion.
He is Judge Dredd, nothing else needs to be said, no name, no face.
He is the Law. Period.:2 cents:
great film. props to hugo weaving for being so expressive while not showing his face. as far as alan moore goes: unless he decides to make them himself, films will never do him justice. his gift could never be expressed by so limited a format. there's something about having a comic book open in front of you. you can see the whole thing, skip ahead. you can stare at the same panel and read the words in any order and get totally lost for hours. read it backwards. movies go one way only. his work generates enthusiasm in film-makers, but the end result is always a sad compromise. league of extraordinary gentlemen being the most painful. i feel V is the best so far at capturing the essense of his work. i, like many of you appreciate how relavent it is in modern america, but we only seem to notice the tyrants when we're awake. thank you.
nice bump, FK.
as far as V's face goes, him becoming an idea is both symbolic and literal. He has no memory of his past and his face is burnt, so his persona is his only identity.
remember, all the victims were people that society had outcast, so even if we knew who he was, it would be no one that we recognized or had any consequence. That was the whole point with the masks, to give a face to the faceless.
as far as V's face goes, him becoming an idea is both symbolic and literal. He has no memory of his past and his face is burnt, so his persona is his only identity.
remember, all the victims were people that society had outcast, so even if we knew who he was, it would be no one that we recognized or had any consequence. That was the whole point with the masks, to give a face to the faceless.
The movie is actually really good, as are the original comic story lines.
People read too much into it at times, for whatever political attitudes they want to have in absolutes, but the various themes are true and applicable at times in general.
People read too much into it at times, for whatever political attitudes they want to have in absolutes, but the various themes are true and applicable at times in general.
