Unapologetic coach of 100-0 win fired by school

[gunslingingbird]

DALLAS — The coach of a Texas high school basketball team that beat another team 100-0 was fired Sunday, the same day he sent an e-mail to a newspaper saying he will not apologize "for a wide-margin victory when my girls played with honor and integrity."

Kyle Queal, the headmaster for Covenant School, said in The Dallas Morning News online edition that he could not answer if the firing was a direct result of coach Micah Grimes' e-mail disagreeing with administrators who called the blowout "shameful."

Ah, yes, yet another story about the ever-growing pussification of America. Now a coach gets fired because he does what he's supposed to do: win games. If the other team is inept enough to allow 100 points and not score any themselves, it should be that team's coach that gets fired, not the coach of the winning team. Instead of having these bullshit "mercy rules" and teaching kids that it's ok to be losers because eventually the other team will be nice and stop the asswhipping, why not teach them that life is just like the game should be? The asswhipping continues until you get up off your ass and do something about it.

These girls are gonna grow up in this environment of "Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to show off the fact that you're totally incompetent, so I'll be nice and let you off," and they're gonna see a totally different picture when they fall behind on their rent or credit card payments and realize that the landlord or creditor didn't go to the same alternate reality school that they went to. I feel sorry for the coach and for the girls affected, but what I feel most is frustration and anger at the school administrators who allow this kind of thing to happen. God Bless America. :thefinger

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[Ravenholm]

Here, it isn't far from being that in the UK either pal. I agree, the coach should be praised, not fired, if his team annihilated the opposition in such a way, well, it shows how lacking the beaten team is. There should be no apology from the winners. And to say otherwise is bullshit. If you lose in such a way you are to blame not the winning side. People need to realise this.

 

[D-rock]

Does it really matter if somebody wins by 60-0, 80-0, or even 100-0? At some point where people past the point of having no risk of loosing from then on out what the reason for trying to humiliate an opponent further just because you can, especially at that level of competition? Unless it's one of those extremely rare times where your opponent is scum and maybe deserves it, is it really in the sprit of competition to do that. I could go out and easily kick the asses of people that are a lot weaker and less skilled than me. I wouldn’t want to do it, no less go home and feel proud of something like that after I did it.

 

[Ravenholm]

If there is still time left when those kinds of results are gained, then the game should go on right to the end of the game. Otherwise why play at all. You play to win, not to lose. And even if you are losing, you play right to the end, till the time runs out regardless of results. Those are the rules. And only a chicken would try and weasel out before the time runs out.

 

[ChefChiTown]

I don't know if anybody here watches PTI, but I sent an e-mail to Mike Wilbon and Tony Kornheiser late last night, in regards to this topic. I was hoping to get them to mention it on the show, during their "Mail Time" segment, but I'll post it here to get your thoughts on it too...

Micah Grimes, the head coach of Covenant High School's girl's basketball team was fired today. He has been repeatedly criticised for allowing his team to run up the score during a recent 100-0 victory over Dallas Academy, which ultimately lead to his termination.

I know that you two have voiced your opinions on the matter, but would you feel the same way if the score had been 100-10? 100-20? 100-30? etc.

What does the score have to be in order for it to cross the line of good sportsmanship and venture into the realm of being inappropriate?

Thanks for reading.

 

[Legzman]

glad to hear he won't apologize. He has nothing to apologize for.

 

[Psychology]

Does it really matter if somebody wins by 60-0, 80-0, or even 100-0? At some point where people past the point of having no risk of loosing from then on out what the reason for trying to humiliate an opponent further just because you can, especially at that level of competition? Unless it's one of those extremely rare times where your opponent is scum and maybe deserves it, is it really in the sprit of competition to do that. I could go out and easily kick the asses of people that are a lot weaker and less skilled than me. I wouldn’t want to do it, no less go home and feel proud of something like that after I did it.

So its okay in the coporate world but bad in "sports competition"? American values and hyporcrisy can blow me.

 

[gunslingingbird]

Does it really matter if somebody wins by 60-0, 80-0, or even 100-0? At some point where people past the point of having no risk of loosing from then on out what the reason for trying to humiliate an opponent further just because you can, especially at that level of competition? Unless it's one of those extremely rare times where your opponent is scum and maybe deserves it, is it really in the sprit of competition to do that. I could go out and easily kick the asses of people that are a lot weaker and less skilled than me. I wouldn’t want to do it, no less go home and feel proud of something like that after I did it.

Well, in the spirit of competition, I think the losing team should try to at least score. It says in the article that the losing team has been winless for the past 4 years. What's to say that they aren't even trying because they know that in the end they will get the same praise as the team that just whipped the living shit out of them? In this case, the losers are getting more praise than the winners.

I'm not advocating running up the score like that (last year I was one of Bill Belichick's biggest critics when he would go for it on 4th down in a game where the Patriots were winning by 40-some points), but I don't see why the coach should apologize because his team plays at a level that the other school is obviously nowhere near. If anything, it should've been the losing team that should've forfeited the game. If I saw my team was getting its ass handed to it by the opposition I would accept defeat instead of seeing my players be humiliated like that, especially at that level of competition. :2 cents:

 

[Spleen]

He's a hero, he'll probably get picked up by some other team now and go on to better things. Good for him, and congrats on the win

 

[STDiva]

I'm pretty sure the school that got blown out was for mentally handicapped students, or students with learning dissabilities.

 

[Psychology]

I'm pretty sure the school that got blown out was for mentally handicapped students, or students with learning dissabilities.

I don't know if you were being sarcastic or not but I work with developmental disability individuals. Trust me when I tell you that they would rather be blown out and treated normally than to be given special treatment and "awwwwww" sympathy.

 

[gunslingingbird]

I don't know if you were being sarcastic or not but I work with developmental disability individuals. Trust me when I tell you that they would rather be blown out and treated normally than to be given special treatment and "awwwwww" sympathy.

It wasn't sarcasm. The article makes mention of the fact that Dallas Academy, or whatever the other school's name is, is primarily attended by balloon-holders and window-lickers.

 

[ChefChiTown]

It wasn't sarcasm. The article makes mention of the fact that Dallas Academy, or whatever the other school's name is, is primarily attended by balloon-holders and window-lickers.

This is from ESPN...

Dallas Academy has eight girls on its varsity team and about 20 girls in its high school. It is winless over the past four seasons. The academy boasts of its small class sizes and specializes in teaching students struggling with "learning differences," such as short attention spans or dyslexia.

http://sports.espn.go.com/highschool/rise/basketball/girls/news/story?id=3859935

 

[STDiva]

I wasn't being sarcastic. I saw a video of the team afterwards on TSN, all their spirits were high and they were taking it as a learning experience.

But 100 - 0? You know the winning team went back into their locker room and talked shit about the other girls. And this isn't hockey, or any sport where points for, and points allowed count for something.

If the score is 50-0...what is the point in playing anymore? You can have a more productive practice against your peers than playing a team as incompetent as this one.

 

[ChefChiTown]

If the score is 50-0...what is the point in playing anymore?

Exactly. What is a team supposed to do if they are up by such a score? Just stop playing and give up?

Yes, it sucks that the team won 100-0, but are they just supposed to let the other team catch up to make it a close game? Wouldn't that be unsportsmanlike as well?

:dunno:

 

[STDiva]

You can play defense without putting up points on some suckers who can't ball. Run the clock down. Stop droppin treys like a bad waiter.

 

[ChefChiTown]

You can play defense without putting up points on some suckers who can't ball. Run the clock down. Stop droppin treys like a bad waiter.

Is there a shot clock in high school basketball? :dunno:

What if it wasn't basketball? What if it was baseball? Do you go up and bunt during every at-bat? Do you throw softly thrown fastballs during every pitch?

What's the point of playing if you're not really going to be playing?

 

[STDiva]

The point in playing is to win. And when you've already won then stop playing.

This isn't baseball, but if you're going to use hypothetical questions, if you were playing basketball with a child, would you post up on him and swat his balls out? Whoop his ass by 79 points? No. You wouldn't.

If you're playing pool with your female friend who is shit at pool, are you going to run the table on her? Play a safe and snooker her? Nope.

A mercy rule should be determined on the circumstances. And this time, the rule should have been implemented. Coach shouldn't be fired, but take it easy on the teams that can't ball. Jeez.

 

[cartman24]

Something seems very wrong with the whole situation. I have always hated that people expect you to slow down your momentum when you will win big. That is like a race car driver going down to half throttle because they have a big lead on the rest of the field, it just doesn't happen.

 

[STDiva]

Something seems very wrong with the whole situation. I have always hated that people expect you to slow down your momentum when you will win big. That is like a race car driver going down to half throttle because they have a big lead on the rest of the field, it just doesn't happen.

People in racecars can catch up. Girls who don't know how to play basketball and have learning disabilities cannot.