U.S. Apologizes For Syphilis Experiment In Guatemala

I think anyone who was directly or indirectly affected by this, should be compensated. I think if anyone here that found out that they or their parent, etc. were experimented on, they wouldn't just say "oh well, at least they gave me antibiotics". Every rational person would want $omething for having been violated in such a way. The fact that they are Guatemalan should have nothing to do with if they get $$ or not.

As far as compensating their country as a whole, i say no, we tend to do enough with foreign aid (but that's a whole other topic).

So shame on the U.S. for doing such a thing, but good for the U.S. for coming clean with it finally. Kind of wonder if more of this kind of thing will start coming to light now that we have a 'slightly' more transparent government.
 
A third of the people in this forum probably have an std...whats the big deal. How they got it, I have no idea but i'm sure they probably do. Can you get an std wackin it?

Yes, and with how ofthen you wack it, you probably have several. Now whatever you do, do NOT breed. Never ever have children or they will also be infected with those pesky STDs and the plagues will continue. Thanks for your removal from the gene pool!!
 

Facetious

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Man....what a comment to make. Leave it to you to turn this into a partisan issue, Facetious. Forget the fact that these were actual human beings we're talking about here, right? You'd rather just go ahead and gloss this over??
Sorry, I've just never been a big fan of collective responsibility that's all.
Let me ask you this, do you think that members of the democratic party USA would have apologized for such an event had a right winger been in power in Guatemala? Remember now, the Guatemalan President, Alvaro Colom IS the first democratically elected left winger in all of 53 years (as of '08) . . . .yup!

We know that the reparation revenues when they come are going directly to the Guatemalan government and not the surviving members of those who were allegedly intentionally infected with Syphillis, right?
 
A third of the people in this forum probably have an std...whats the big deal. How they got it, I have no idea but i'm sure they probably do. Can you get an std wackin it?

Please tell me you're kidding.

Ur an idiot!!!

Just for future reference, replying to a seemingly idiotic post with glaring grammatical issues in your post is probably not the best route to go.
 
Finally got around to watching the Crazies last night and it got me thinking.... :confused:
 
Well, you know what they say about brilliant minds, Odysseus!! :thumbsup:

There shouldn't be any flak on this either. Anyone who wants to make an attempt to justify this can bring it on. :mad:

Another great thread. :clap: :clap: :clap:
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
Sorry, I've just never been a big fan of collective responsibility that's all.

Fair enough. I believe that if we all share the benefits of the common good, we must also all share the burden of the common bad. Agree to disagree. However, I would certainly hope that you do not condone such horrific medical experiments. Kinda sounds like you could easily just sweep this under the rug and I find that disturbing if true.

Let me ask you this, do you think that members of the democratic party USA would have apologized for such an event had a right winger been in power in Guatemala? Remember now, the Guatemalan President, Alvaro Colom IS the first democratically elected left winger in all of 53 years (as of '08) . . . .yup!

It's completely speculative but I just don't think politics has anything to do with it. It's a matter of right and wrong. How does the democratic party benefit from this revelation?

We know that the reparation revenues when they come are going directly to the Guatemalan government and not the surviving members of those who were allegedly intentionally infected with Syphillis, right?

We do? That's quite an assumption. No one from the US government has suggested that any reparations be made at all at this juncture. Personally, if there are remaining victims or direct immediate descendants, I think they should receive compensation....paid directly to them and NOT the Guatemalan government and certainly not "billions upon billions" of dollars as you suggested will be the case. You sound like Carl Sagan for fuck's sake! :1orglaugh
 

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
Am I the only one who wants to know HOW the syphilis was administered? Was it through an injection? Did they wrap a syphilis pill in a slice of American cheese to fool them? Did they put their hoo-has in their no-no-holes?

:dunno:
 
Am I the only one who wants to know HOW the syphilis was administered? Was it through an injection? Did they wrap a syphilis pill in a slice of American cheese to fool them? Did they put their hoo-has in their no-no-holes?

:dunno:

I believe one of the methods of administration was to allow the inmates the "use" of prostitutes who unknown to them were already infected.

A sort of: Wham, bam, thank you ... my urethra itches.
 

Facetious

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Fair enough. I believe that if we all share the benefits of the common good, we must also all share the burden of the common bad. Agree to disagree. However, I would certainly hope that you do not condone such horrific medical experiments. Kinda sounds like you could easily just sweep this under the rug and I find that disturbing if true.



It's completely speculative but I just don't think politics has anything to do with it. It's a matter of right and wrong.

From OP Article:
The experiments were discovered by Susan M. Reverby, a medical historian and professor of women’s studies at Wellesley College in Wellesley, Mass.,
Umm Hmmm :clap: Two things -
• ''Women's Studies Departments" are very centrist and objective forums, yeah!

• Wellesley = Clinton's Alma Mater . . . wasn't Hillary a big shot in the Wellesley :uhem: "Womens Studies Department"?

Just because a single Women's Studies Professor / Author says that American Doctors infected Guatemalan prisoners with the gonzo we all have to believe it hook line and sinker?



How does the democratic party benefit from this revelation?
I know politics well enough to know that everything is done on a quid pro quo basis . . . give something > get something back in return.
Of course our current administration is eager to enhance and further develop social democratic politicians wherever possible, this should be no surprise.

ƒ said:
We know that the reparation revenues when they come are going directly to the Guatemalan government and not the surviving members of those who were allegedly intentionally infected with Syphillis, right?

jag said:
We do? That's quite an assumption. No one from the US government has suggested that any reparations be made at all at this juncture. Personally, if there are remaining victims or direct immediate descendants, I think they should receive compensation....paid directly to them and NOT the Guatemalan government and certainly not "billions upon billions" of dollars as you suggested will be the case.
millions . . billions . . . trillions, I'm so jaded and cynical these days.
You sound like Carl Sagan for fuck's sake!
I knew it was coming . . . Remember that old ''The Who By Numbers LP"? connecting dots

If the reparation revenues were to go directly into the accounts (or pockets as it were) of the surviving victims' family members free of the government of Guatemala getting their grubby hands on it first, I don't have a problem with it, however, knowing that Guatemala is a third world nation ruled by a few elite thugs I don't see that happening. We'll be staying tuned.

Note: Did you read the wiki on Colom?
A pretty ''colorful'' guy eh?
Gotta love that immunity!
 
What are the odds that a my bad will ever be forthcoming to possibly help this guy with his meaning of life theory.

Although if that is a 'my bad' it would never (COULD NEVER) come out considering it would be the largest 'my bad' in the history of human kind...wouldn't it?:dunno:
 

Supafly

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At first I thought, why bring back a thread from the crypt, then I saw there was new infor on this.

What really bugs me is:

1. Clinton / Obama 'apologizing'. You can't do that yourself. The concept is that you ASK for apology, and you may be granted that or you may not. That is the decision of the ones that got hurt by you.

2. Doing that in THIS cases, over the phone? For genocide? What would Clinton and Obama say if Mengele called up, say, the Jewish Agency, and said, 'Sorry for that one!'

This case should go to the International court in Den Haag
 
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