Turning Fruit Flies Gay/Not Gay, Ethics

Scientists have discovered what causes fruit flies to be gay, and have developed a drug that will allow them to switch this on or off (i.e., make them gay or not gay).

Because of the nature of biological differences between humans and fruit flies, this will likely have no application for humans, but do you think it would be ethical to change your child's sexual orientation? If you were a female and got tired of fucking with men, would you change your orientation if you could? Would the church insist that you change your sexual orientation to remain a member if you were gay? Is that ethical?

The ramifications would be endless, no?

Fruit Fly Homosexuality Study Likely To Prove Controversial
by 365Gay.com Newscenter Staff

Posted: December 10, 2007 - 8:00 am ET

(Chicago, Illinois) While the biological basis for homosexuality remains a mystery, a team of neurobiologists says it may be closer to an answer.

The team led by University of Illinois at Chicago researcher David Featherstone says it has discovered that sexual orientation in fruit flies is controlled by a previously unknown regulator of synapse strength.

Armed with this knowledge, the researchers claim they were able to use either genetic manipulation or drugs to turn the flies' homosexual behavior on and off within hours.

The research will appear in the January issue of Nature Neuroscience the university said.

Featherstone, associate professor of biological sciences at UIC, and his coworkers discovered a gene in fruit flies they called "genderblind," or GB. A mutation in GB turns flies bisexual.

Featherstone found the gene interesting initially because it has the unusual ability to transport the neurotransmitter glutamate out of glial cells -- cells that support and nourish nerve cells but do not fire like neurons do. Previous work from his laboratory showed that changing the amount of glutamate outside cells can change the strength of nerve cell junctions, or synapses, which play a key role in human and animal behavior.

But the GB gene became even more interesting when post-doctoral researcher Yael Grosjean noticed that all the GB mutant male flies were courting other males.

"It was very dramatic," said Featherstone.

The GB mutant males, he said, treated other males exactly the same way nonmutant male flies would treat a female. They even attempted copulation Featherstone said.

Other genes that alter sexual orientation have been described, but most just control whether the brain develops as genetically male or female. It's still unknown why a male brain chooses to do male things and a female brain does female things. The discovery of GB provided an opportunity to understand why males choose to mate with females.

"Based on our previous work, we reasoned that GB mutants might show homosexual behavior because their glutamatergic synapses were altered in some way," said Featherstone. Specifically, the GB mutant synapses might be stronger.

"Homosexual courtship might be sort of an 'overreaction' to sexual stimuli," he explained.

To test this, he and his colleagues genetically altered synapse strength independent of GB, and also fed the flies drugs that can alter synapse strength. As predicted, they were able to turn fly homosexuality on and off -- and within hours.

"It was amazing. I never thought we'd be able to do that sort of thing, because sexual orientation is supposed to be hard-wired," he said. "This fundamentally changes how we think about this behavior."

Featherstone and his colleagues reasoned that adult fly brains have dual-track sensory circuits, one that triggers heterosexual behavior, the other homosexual. When GB suppresses glutamatergic synapses, the homosexual circuit is blocked.

Meanwhile, a new book by a British anthropologist is likely to be equally controversial.

Desmond Morris, who previously wrote The Naked Ape, claims in his new book The Naked Man that some men are gay because they failed to break the 'boys together' stage of childhood.

That claims Morris results in gay men being more playful and experimental and leads to gays being more artistic.

"Gays have in general made a disproportionately greater contribution to life than nongays," he writes, pointing to gays like Socrates, Leonardo da Vinci, Tchaikovsky, Cole Porter and Oscar Wilde.
 

tartanterrier

Is somewhere outhere.
Came across this joke I picked up from the "Share a joke" thread.Thought it kinda tied in with the subject :thefinger

A Shortie
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Researchers have just found a cure for homosexuality : LIPBALM

Their conclusions were that if you rub some on your arsehole,it will keep the chaps away :1orglaugh
 

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
Scientists have discovered what causes fruit flies to be gay, and have developed a drug that will allow them to switch this on or off (i.e., make them gay or not gay).

Can't...hold...back...

Too...many..."fruit"...gay...jokes...in...head

Aaaaaaaah...gay...fruit...flies...fruit...

AAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!

:eyeso:
 
Can't...hold...back...

Too...many..."fruit"...gay...jokes...in...head

Aaaaaaaah...gay...fruit...flies...fruit...

AAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!

:eyeso:

Yea that's what I was thinking. Fruit flies like fruity guys are easy to manipulate. Real men and house flies are more rugged. :lame:
 
Yea that's what I was thinking. Fruit flies like fruity guys are easy to manipulate. Real man and house flies are more rugged. :lame:

Remember the movie "The Fly",can u imagine he got melded with a changed Gay fruit fly.Oh the issues he would have lol.flylickerflylicker
 
I could careless if they made everyone take it. Just so long as people quit making excuses to deny people their rights.
 
I could careless if they made everyone take it. Just so long as people quit making excuses to deny people their rights.
As well as people using that as an excuse for "special rights."
I want equal rights, not denial or special, and that includes taking the concept of sex out of the whole, fucking equation.
Two people want an arrangement, I'm not here to judge that arrangement or say it's "better" or "more natural" or "not marriage" or "not at least gay marriage" non-sense to discredit it.
 

squallumz

knows petras secret: she farted.
uhhh.......

are you sure that they just arent fucking stupid and not gay? this is ridiculous.
 
Imagine if there was some great "scientist" up there who could manipulate us like these flies. It might cause straight people to all of the sudden start acting gay!:rolleyes:
 
Imagine if there was some great "scientist" up there who could manipulate us like these flies. It might cause straight people to all of the sudden start acting gay!:rolleyes:

Just come to where I work. After you work there long enough, as soon as you set foot on the property you act gay/bi until you leave again.

Becks...not bi, but acts like it at work.
 
Are these scientists working for anti gay conservatives trying to find an antidonte to all the gay people or is it just scientists how would rather work this out than try to work out the causes and cures for diseases
 

Aces&Jacks

Retired Mod
***Side note***

Fruit flies seem to appear out of nowhere. You could have the most pristine house in the world, but as soon as you throw a melon into the trash, they appear like magic. They are small, hard to kill, and once you get them, seem to linger around the house forever.

An easy way to kill them is to set a cup of vinegar on the window sill. Fruit flies are highly attracted to the vinegar, even though it kills them. In no time you will get rid of them all.
 

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
***Side note***

Fruit flies seem to appear out of nowhere. You could have the most pristine house in the world, but as soon as you throw a melon into the trash, they appear like magic. They are small, hard to kill, and once you get them, seem to linger around the house forever.

An easy way to kill them is to set a cup of vinegar on the window sill. Fruit flies are highly attracted to the vinegar, even though it kills them. In no time you will get rid of them all.

I had them in my last apartment. When I first noticed them, there were only 2 or 3 of them. By the next morning, there was A LOT more than that. They're ridiculous and I hate them.
 
You can kill fruit flies with vinegar? That should be a public service announcement.

No kidding. I didn't know that. That information will come in handy. <3
 
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