True AMATEUR girls who have sex in PARTYHARDCORE !?

All good points and yes it is probably the rise of social media that would put off a lot of people appearing in these types of videos, even if they are not actually involved in anything sexual themselves.
 
The girls are getting paid for attending the party, the amount depends on how far are they willing to go. They are split on girls who are just for the crowd, and girls who MIGHT do something, then there are hired pros who are there to make sure that some action occurs.
Everything is properly stated in contracts they sign. Also there is a lot going on behind the scenes when it comes to protecting privacy of girls, last year I had a nice chat about that with tainster employee. I wanted to buy an unedited PH material, the person with whom I spoke informed me that they do not sell unedited PH material, when I asked why? She told me that it is to protect the girls who attend parties, some of them get second thoughts and asks tainster to not put them in the official releases. And apparently tainster is honouring such requests, probably one of reasons why they don't have problems with finding amateurs willing to attend parties.

This does make sense. I guess when the girls are signing the contract it'll be something like:
Option 1 - just here to drink and dance. Don't even let a stripper come near me
Option 2 - I wouldn't mind a stripper come playing with me. But no sex
Option 3 - only lesbo
Option 4 - I will have sex with everyone!

Most will tick option 1. Only pros will tick option 3. Some who ticked option 2 might regret some of their actions and request not to put them on official release, hence why we don't always see the action.

I can understand why most amateurs don't get involved. But Tainster completely cock-it up by not showing the footage of the amateurs that do actually do get involved.
 
Only 3 girls have sex in this party and all 3 are plants, of course. Same thing happened in party gc 14, and that's record low if we talking of number of girls/plants who do hardcore.

If we know that plants are paid more then amateurs, fact that in last 2 parties was only 3 plants speaks for itself about their intention to save up some money.

Parties became even more boring, but at least they save some cash. Good for them.
 
If we know that plants are paid more then amateurs, fact that in last 2 parties was only 3 plants speaks for itself about their intention to save up some money.

Parties became even more boring, but at least they save some cash. Good for them.
You miss the point completly.
Plants are paid to ensure that any hardcore action happens at all. Girls are paid depending on how far are they willing to go.
 
You miss the point completly.
Plants are paid to ensure that any hardcore action happens at all. Girls are paid depending on how far are they willing to go.

Yes, but they don't spend the same amount of money when there is 8-9 plants or when there is only 3, like in this party. I think they reduce the number or plants just to save up some money.

I didn't talk about amateur girls, just about plants.
 
ealrier camera's used to be far away and zoom on girls doing some action, now a days they just shove it in their face that makes the girls uneasy, it just that even now amateurs are just as wild as they were earlier its just that the strippers are not as active.
 
How did the contracts work back in the good old days though? The very fact they have "contracts" makes me believe we will never see true amateur action again. In the days before it became rubbish, lets say up to 2010, I always imagined that most of the girls who attended the parties as amateurs would have just had to sign a disclaimer, something along the lines of "I acknowledge that Eromaxx may film some or all of this event and may use the footage for commercial purposes, including broadcast and distribution, and by signing this disclaimer I consent to my appearance in such footage." Then whatever happened happened, and the footage could be used.

That in a sense is no different than attending any ticketed filmed event such as a tv show or sports event where by attending you are effectively agreeing to your appearance in the broadcasters footage of that event.

Now if they have specific contracts clearly stating what they will and won't do, I don't see how we will ever get any good amateur action again, because even if someone now gets carried away and sucks or fucks a stripper, there is no general consent for any footage to be broadcast by Tainster.
 
How did the contracts work back in the good old days though? The very fact they have "contracts" makes me believe we will never see true amateur action again. In the days before it became rubbish, lets say up to 2010, I always imagined that most of the girls who attended the parties as amateurs would have just had to sign a disclaimer, something along the lines of "I acknowledge that Eromaxx may film some or all of this event and may use the footage for commercial purposes, including broadcast and distribution, and by signing this disclaimer I consent to my appearance in such footage." Then whatever happened happened, and the footage could be used.

That in a sense is no different than attending any ticketed filmed event such as a tv show or sports event where by attending you are effectively agreeing to your appearance in the broadcasters footage of that event.

Now if they have specific contracts clearly stating what they will and won't do, I don't see how we will ever get any good amateur action again, because even if someone now gets carried away and sucks or fucks a stripper, there is no general consent for any footage to be broadcast by Tainster.
I can only tell you that contracts for PH girls exist from the beginning of the whole serie, actually there is really no "true" amateurs in porn, as in sense the girl comes by, fucks, gets no money... As long as company can make money by selling some product, they need to get contracts for the "performers", just to cover their own behind.
 
I can only tell you that contracts for PH girls exist from the beginning of the whole serie, actually there is really no "true" amateurs in porn, as in sense the girl comes by, fucks, gets no money... As long as company can make money by selling some product, they need to get contracts for the "performers", just to cover their own behind.

to whip your titties out on girls gone wild etc just requires age verification and signing off permission to use the footage afaik

i do agree that ph is likely different in most cases though. there always seems to be a negotiation or the camera disappearing then conveniently coming back. i have seen the czech swingers and czech parties sites and they likely have affiliated management. they all have crossover talent in male performers and "amateurs" along with czech casting. in those all 3 of the czech sites (swingers, casting, and parties) you have "amateurs" that are being paid for what they do on camera. its very clear in a lot of situations. you even see some negotiations during the swingers parties and the castings

party hardcore probably has a similar set up. they try to seduce the girls and then offer them money. although there is money involved and some girls are showing up to the party for making money, it seems theres also girls who get seduced in to pay for play. and of course sometimes girls will just let a stripper stick their dick in mouth. i would guess though that the number of girls that fuck on PH that didnt do it for the money is almost nonexistent (meaning no chance they fuck on camera for free) but lots of the bjs in the early parties could be real. as i mentioned a few posts ago the dso show cam captures some of the most real shit ive seen. even still he could have been telling her about money before he pulls her pants down

i think its pretty much impossible to expect to get great footage consistently nowadays but there is still a huge gap in what we have. i mean you can go to the mango deck bar on the beach in mexico and see a wet t shirt contest every single day of the week. girls are publicly whipping their tits out every single day. anyone walking down the beach can see it and they are also in a bar full of people. the host of the contest has to stop girls from whipping their pussies out all the time. im not talking spring break. every single day of the year. its not some magical place or bar, its just a beach bar in cabo on the main beach. people have cameras and shit out the whole time. even the club has a massive commercial quality camera up close for promo footage and it doesnt slow the girls down. ive had a few vacations there and seen it with my own eyes. the contest is judged by a member of the crowd. they win this position with an auction. usually $100-$200. that money becomes first prize and the judge gets a half dozen lapdances on stage during the contest

PH should be able to build off a model like this. throw an actual party. create an actual party vibe. get them shaking their titties and flashing pussy. then insert strippers and plants. maybe you get some titty sucking, hj's, and bj's, or maybe you just get plant action but either way you get amateur titties and hardcore action. it can appeal to more than one market

theres been a million good criticisms of ph in here but i just want say that i think they have had someone take over with a background in production and focused on that instead of having someone in charge of throwing the party and someone in charge of producing the content. the production side seems to have completely taken over. look at all the "amateurs" outfits. its all upscale shit. look at the plants outfits, all upscale shit. mr production guy has vision for how his "party" is going to look. fuck off and just throw a party. same with the set. focus on the party not the set, wardrobe, etc. as others have mentioned the attempt to get traditional quality footage of amateurs just scares the amateurs off. you want to film a guy trying to get a bj then do it from a distance. what random chick is going to be persuaded to blow a guy with a camera and massive spotlight in their face? its just a total action killer. knowing cameras are there makes it hard, having the cameraman in their face makes it harder. forget about the costumes, set design, super hd close ups and lighting, and slow down with all the awkward plant action. focus on throwing an actual party and getting girls tits out and having fun. then go for all the hardcore shit. getting girls to get wild in a half empty movie set is just an uphill battle

its seriously a shittier version of dso at this point. its dso with uglier and less plants. i have no clue what theyre thinking
 
PH Vol. 29 is quite a good party; I think two of the women who fucked were amateurs.

The amateur, pictured in a white top (below), is interesting because she was only approached once and fucked; it is weird no one went after her either before or after.

At about 1h22 she looks on with surprise when her chubby friend sucks.
A few minutes later her friend sucks another guy, and this guy has to grab her to get her involved (Picture 1)
Attention turns to her, and she holds up one finger as if to say the guy can finger her with one finger only
However, her pants are quickly removed and she is fucking (Pictures 2 and 3)

It's strange that no one approached her again.

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