afds, I think you missed the point on what Demoman was saying with his analogy regarding why its more acceptable for women to have sex toy as opposed to men. The point is, you can't compare women to men and say "well if they can do this, then why can't we"? I mean, you don't go around dressing yourself in a skirt and high heels just because women can, now do you?
Yeah the point he was trying to make is that there is a
double standard. Masturbation provides pleasure and as men, why shouldn't we get the most pleasure possible. Women can orgasm using nothing but their hands just like men can. However, they want more than just the minimum. They want to have incredible orgasms. Masturbating by hand
is the bare minimum. I guess thats fine if that's all you want, but I want more than just a quick 1 - 2 - pew.
10 or 15 years ago, it wasn't acceptable to own a sex toy. Regardless of whether you were a woman or a man. Ten years ago, if you had more than 20MB of porn on your computer, you were some kind of sex crazed pervert. Hell, if you owned some playboy mags 20+ years ago, you were a pervert. Times change, whether you want them to or not. (Three years ago, when I got my first FL, no one I talked to had tried one. Nowadays, I sometimes get people telling me about this awesome sex toy that will blow my mind. Or I'll tell someone and they are like, dude I've got 4.)
As for the rest of the post, yeah I guess it's a pretty big generalization. You made some good points. But from what I understand, usually if a guy has an active sex life, he's satisfied with just his hand when he doesn't get lucky one night. I mean, what you have to understand is not everyone's life is based around sex. For the people whose lives are, I guess that's when a fake pussy would come into play, but for those with more balanced lives, it's not really necessary. Besides, tearing a chick's panties off and plowing her isn't the only aspect of sex/the only way a man can ejaculate. You forget handjobs and blowjobs.
That's funny. I've never talked to anyone who said masturbating by hand was satisfying. Personally, I use my fleshlight twice a week and most of the time, it's just for 'stress relief'. Sure I might go hog wild for a week or so every now and then but not that much more than I did when I was masturbating by hand. I'm definitely not a nympho and my life is not based around sex. Most of the people I've recommended the FL to have said similar things.
Personally, handjobs and blowjobs don't really do it for me. Also there can be an erotic factor to using a fleshlight if your girlfriend there with you. She can do it for you like a handjob or you could even both masturbate together. You can use the fleshlight while she uses a vibrator or dildo. Both are quite fun and I highly recommend them to any FL owners.
Yeah... I dunno, maybe I'm a bit of a prude, but if I started dating a guy and found out he had fake pussies to fuck...I'd be turned off. Maybe alot of girls don't mind that, but to me (even if a guy ISN'T)....it just screams desperation. Even if you told me you got laid several times a week and didn't really need it...I'd still be like "ehhh..."
Fucking a fake pussy is a misconception. It's not like we get off on the idea of fucking a toy. If a straight guy is masturbating by hand, is he getting off on the idea of touching his own penis? No. He is stimulating his penis while his mind thinks about beautiful women. That is all the fleshlight is used for. It stimulates the penis while the guy watches porn, just like the hand would.
I read a post on the FL forums asking how most of their members used their fleshlights and an overwhelming majority said they use it just like they would masturbate by hand. As in they hold the case in one hand and slide it up and down on their cock.
You could also masturbate without lube but it isn't as stimulating is it? You probably aren't too bothered by that weird look you get from that old lady at Walgreens whenever you buy some KY. Even if you don't use KY and you just break out with the shampoo, you are still doing whatever you can to provide the most stimulation. You might use two hands, maybe you play with your balls, who knows. The bottom line is it's about it feeling as good as possible. That is what the FL delivers.
But then again, I'm not really turned on by guys who are sex-crazed. I prefer more mellow guys who don't have unhealthy demands or expectations about sex. Again, not saying anyone who's posted here is like that, but in my experience, guys who have an addiction to sex are just annoying. I prefer a guy to have other focuses in life/relationship. Sex is just the icing on the cake for me.
I mentioned this above but just because someone owns an FL does not make them sex crazed. Let me ask you this. Do most guys masturbate, whether they are in a relationship or not?
Those of us who own a FL have simply replaced masturbation via hand with masturbation via fleshlight. I don't have a sex addiction at all. I had one GF who was kinda a nympho and I could keep up with her just fine, but it doesn't bother me to not have sex that often either. As long as I bust a good quality nut a couple times a week, I'm right as rain. Relationships are a wonderful thing and I like the company almost as much as the actual sex.
But yeah, personally, I'd love to have a penor and feel how realistic they are. I'm also really wanting to try out a male Real Doll to see how that is haha.
Now I'm not judging you, but if I had a GF who said she had a real doll, I would be thinking that she was some kind of nympho freak. A fleshlight is a masturbation aid. It is not a replacement for an actual woman. Blow up dolls, real dolls, etc., they ARE replacements for an actual human simply because of the proportions.
Honestly, I feel sorry for those of you that aren't using fleshlights. I feel like I'm using a computer keyboard while you all are still chiseling pictograms in caves. :rofl:
