spiceworld
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JiDoKwan said:Ask Mohammed why there's no Arabs in the future....I mean when have you ever seen any on Star Trek? Hmmmm......Roddenberry might've been on to something.
Great post dude ! :1orglaugh
to any one want know about Mohammad and the islam
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Great post dude ! :1orglaugh
Ax3C
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Barrels-full said:
Okay. Let me ask you this simple, non-assuming, non-combative question ...
You say there is no God (for the sake of all religions, I'll just use the term "Higher Power" from here out ...) and that 'it' never existed, correct? Can any of you prove otherwise? Do any of you have some sort of irrefutable, incontrevertible scientific research or data that shows that the "entity" or "Higher Power" has never existed? It has been said for millenia that we people of faith and belief are fools for believing in something non-corporeal; something that can't be defined, touched, seen, or heard. We're considered idiots for having faith in something that scientists have said don't exist and has no merit in the so-called "real world".
So ... where is the proof that a "Higher Power" doesn't exist? Do any of you have irrefutable evidence that a "Higher Power" is then nothing more than a figment of a believer's imagination; a mere fantasy? Do any of you have scientific proof that a "Higher Power" didn't, in fact, create the known Universe and all that is known to us through science, medicine, and technology? How is it then that even the world's most learned and respected astronomers and scientists cannot explain the events that caused the "Big Bang"?
In other words, can any one person who does not believe that a "Higher Power" exists offer up any proof backing up any of these claims? Atheists and agnostics are quick to throw this same argument out, so I think it's time for the reverse to be asked of them.
I'm not trying to start a religious debate, but it does get to be rather tedious seeing religion run down in virtually every thread in which it crops up.
You disbelieve. I believe. The world still revolves; the sun still shines; life goes on. Plain and simple.
It matters not, people.
Religion, spirituality, and faith are not weaknesses of character, flaws in intelligence, or signs of mental incompetence. It's not escapist nor is it foolish or even elitist to believe in some greater plane of existence or a place in which there is no ignorance, greed, strife, malice, hunger, rape, murder, abuse, theft, or any number of heinous crimes we so-called "advanced" humans perpetrate against one another on a daily basis.
It is merely a thing called FAITH.
Faith in something more; something greater than what there is; something that is so far beyond the comprehension of our mere mortal minds and souls; something that creates LIFE from nothing more than star-dust and is infinite and eternal in design and nature; something that is not for us to know or understand.
It cannot be scientifically measured nor can it be recorded. It is something within a person's SOUL - their innermost SELF - that allows and provides for that belief and that hope.
That is the most basic, simplest argument I can provide for why I (ME ... no one else) believe in God.
My :2 cents:
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SeraphiM
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I know about Islam and I can respect the role of Islam in the world.
As with any extremist view/belief, the Koran can be distorted to fit anyone's particular view.
Islam is a religion where the individual is left to interpret the meaning of the text within the Koran. It wasn't until 20 years after the death of Muhammad ibn Abdullah that the verbal history was placed into text giving us the Koran.
As with any extremist view/belief, the Koran can be distorted to fit anyone's particular view.
Islam is a religion where the individual is left to interpret the meaning of the text within the Koran. It wasn't until 20 years after the death of Muhammad ibn Abdullah that the verbal history was placed into text giving us the Koran.
What Asianx3Chick said. :thumbsup:
Let me add to that, that most people of faith are born into their religion. Most of us were never given a choice and we follow that faith based on what our parents and family passed on to us. Some of us follow it blindly in many cases, because thats how we were taught. Religion is taught and learned, just like anything else. Its up to each individual whether or not they have faith in what they were taught.
For me this has always been a conundrum. Reasoning, logic, and in many cases, science, tell me that there is no God. But thats not what I was taught, thats not who I am deep down. We WANT to have faith, because if this is all there is, then it seems fairly bleak. Faith, many times, is all we have. (I hope that makes sense.)
Let me add to that, that most people of faith are born into their religion. Most of us were never given a choice and we follow that faith based on what our parents and family passed on to us. Some of us follow it blindly in many cases, because thats how we were taught. Religion is taught and learned, just like anything else. Its up to each individual whether or not they have faith in what they were taught.
For me this has always been a conundrum. Reasoning, logic, and in many cases, science, tell me that there is no God. But thats not what I was taught, thats not who I am deep down. We WANT to have faith, because if this is all there is, then it seems fairly bleak. Faith, many times, is all we have. (I hope that makes sense.)
Actually, the whole thing about astrophysists, and mathmaticians not beiliving is not totally true. I can not remember the mathmatician who wrote a book about a real higher power. I just read a small excerpt once, and thi sis what it basically comes down too. The likelyhood and probability of life starting on a planet has the same odd's of a 747 jumbo jet being created if a tornado goes through a junk yard.
My two cents then again two cents isnt worth diddly
My two cents then again two cents isnt worth diddly
dat_monkey
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to anyone that wants to know about sacreligion
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Fuck your god.
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Fuck your god.
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Ax3C
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dat_monkey said:
Well ... believe it or not, I actually respect your opinions and stance, but I do feel it necessary to point out that you aren't exactly inspiring others to heed your credibility by being profane and combative.
You might just want to check out the Board Rules one more time, dat_monkey. We have this little thing here called "RESPECT".
It's not really necessary - or warranted - for what you wrote ... especially when no one else has spoken to you in such a manner or disrespected YOUR posts.
MY :2 cents: :hatsoff: :wave2:
Oh ... and I almost forgot. It's "SACRILEGIOUS" ... not "sacreligion".
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Oh, you wont have to look far. It's there.
And dont talk to me about english and grammar skills. First of all, its the internet and ill type as lazily and as incorrectly as i like, and im not about to take advice from you. Secondly, the American population was too retarded to use proper english, they had to make up their own system. Its a fact. look that up too.
And dont talk to me about english and grammar skills. First of all, its the internet and ill type as lazily and as incorrectly as i like, and im not about to take advice from you. Secondly, the American population was too retarded to use proper english, they had to make up their own system. Its a fact. look that up too.
spiceworld
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Not trying to stir some shit or anything, but only Asian could wrote a huge reply to a 3 word comment from some newbie ! LMAO
Jagger69
Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
Threads on religion are a waste of time since no one is likely to sway another's opinion. I will say this....all religions are theoretical in nature and there is no conclusive proof whatsoever that would either verify or disprove the existence of a supreme being or divine plan. If one chooses to believe and it helps him deal with life, more power to him. Likewise if one chooses not to believe. Way too much fuss made about it in my book. Live and let live.
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No offence. But, Gordar, it's in his name.
Religion requires human brain for understanding.
Gordar said:
No offence. But, Gordar, it's in his name.
Religion requires human brain for understanding.
member2686
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Before bashing other modern-day/current countries' early origins, I suggest you look up the origination of your own (not Aboriginal, but British), durango05. Australia was a prison/penal colony developed by the British for the expressed purpose of exiling their worst criminals and debtors, as you should well know.
Great way to start a country? I think not. Thank goodness over time Australia evolved and Aussies today are amongst the friendliest folks on the planet, excepting, of course, some people.
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Great way to start a country? I think not. Thank goodness over time Australia evolved and Aussies today are amongst the friendliest folks on the planet, excepting, of course, some people.
:hatsoff: :2 cents:
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om3ga
It's good to be the king...
durango95 said:
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Have a nice day.............
Jagger69 said:
Many wars have been fought over trying to sway religious beliefs.
IMO religion is a case of the ends not justifying the means. All the atrocities committed in the name of religion have overshadowed any good. Look at Bush and Blair, all those people in Iraq; men and woman, elderly and young, British and American and the Iraqi's, killed by gods will?!?!
No thank you. I will continue not to be swayed by 2000, 3000, 4000 year old beliefs.
I do believe in a God, but I can never know her will, so I have faith in all things. I really don't see a reason why a church or a messiah or a holy war/Jihad has to be included in my faith.
God is to big an idea to ever be known by man.
