This is HUGE: Kim Jong Un invites President Trump to meet in person

But.. but... Trump is leading us to the BRINK OF NUCLEAR WAR!!!!!11111!!!!!!!!!11111!!!!
 
I won’t get too excited about it. NoKo have a history of going to the table only to throw up all over it later.
 
I’ll put on my liberal cap for a moment and say something like....

I’m totally against this meeting , you don’t legitimize a tyrant by agreeing to meet with him on the world stage.














Trump should be grateful he is being elevated.




(How’d I do?)
 
We've given nothing up for this meeting. Sanctions stay in place, joint exercises with ROK continue. North Korea is talking denuclearization with the preservation of the Kim regime being it's condition.

President Trump defeats ISIS and if he pulls this off, I wonder if he gets the Nobel Peace Prize?

lol yeah right.

A bunch of crow being served up right now.
 
We've given nothing up for this meeting. Sanctions stay in place, joint exercises with ROK continue. North Korea is talking denuclearization with the preservation of the Kim regime being it's condition.

President Trump defeats ISIS and if he pulls this off, I wonder if he gets the Nobel Peace Prize?

lol yeah right.

A bunch of crow being served up right now.

Hail.
 
Hail, indeed.


"The worst possible thing you can do is meet with President Trump in person and try to play him. If you do that, it will be the end of you — and your regime." - Sen. Lindsey Graham


You tell'em, Lindsey.
 
Hail, indeed.


"The worst possible thing you can do is meet with President Trump in person and try to play him. If you do that, it will be the end of you — and your regime." - Sen. Lindsey Graham


You tell'em, Lindsey.
Oh yeah, don’t pay any attention to anything Lindsey says the last 2 years of his term. He always pivots to the right before re-election time and those people down in Mouth Carolina always eat out of his hand.
Lindsey despises Trump.
 
This is good news, very good news
Credit to this administration for that. But also to the south korean administration who've been negociating with the north korean government for monthes now.


Also, let's not celebrate too soon : this might be a set-up from the North Korean demonstration so let's see how it goes. I fear the north koreans could exploit Trump's natural tendancy to soften up when people flatter his ego.
Let's just hope the meeting will happen in North Korea so that Trump won't have acess to his Twitter account...
 
One of those two is coming back from that meeting (if it happens) as an U.N.C.L.E. style double, who'll be a wee bit less nuts.
 
Actual chance of that happening: Zero



:1orglaugh

For one thing, they aren't "defeated".
And for another, that's like giving all the credit to some guy who lands the last punch after the previous guy has left the target battered and bruised and up against the ropes.

lol I was waiting for that as I've seen you repeatedly make that claim in other posts. But the battlefield commanders would disagree with you, or at least to the extent you claim. Whereas Obama .... you know what? I have to get on with my morning workout or I'll find some other excuse to put it off.

read it here:

10/17/2017

Terrorism: Nine months after President Trump promised to defeat ISIS "quickly and effectively," U.S.-backed forces captured Raqqa, which until Tuesday had served as the ISIS capital. The battle now is over who deserves credit: Trump or President Obama.

Trump, not surprisingly, claims it for himself: "It had to do with the people I put in and it had to do with rules of engagement," Trump said in a radio interview.

Before dismissing this as typical Trump self-aggrandizement, consider that for several years Obama insisted that a quick and decisive victory against ISIS was all but impossible.

After belittling ISIS as a "JV" team and then being surprised by its advances, Obama finally got around to announcing a strategy to "degrade and ultimately destroy" the militant Islamic group.

As his strategy dragged on and seemed to go nowhere, Obama kept telling the country that this was just the nature of the beast.

"It will take time to eradicate a cancer like (ISIS). It will take time to root them out."

"This is a long-term and extremely complex challenge."

"This will not be quick."

"There will be setbacks and there will be successes."

"We must be patient and flexible in our efforts; this is a multiyear fight and there will be challenges along the way."

And he kept insisting that winning the war against ISIS has as much to do with public relations as it did weapons. "This broader challenge of countering extremism is not simply a military effort. Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas."

What Obama didn't say is that reason defeating ISIS was taking so long was of how he was fighting it.

A former senior military commander in the region told the Washington Examiner that the Obama White House was micromanaging the war "to the degree that it was just as bad, if not worse, than during the Johnson administration." Johnson, you will recall, once bragged that "they can't bomb an outhouse in Vietnam without my permission."

Contrast this with Trump. Rather than talk endlessly about how long and hard the fight would be, Trump said during his campaign that, if elected, he would convene his "top generals and give them a simple instruction. They will have 30 days to submit to the Oval Office a plan for soundly and quickly defeating ISIS."

Once in office, Trump made several changes in the way the war was fought, the most important of which were to loosen the rules of engagement and give more decision-making authority to battlefield commanders.

Joshua Keating, writing in the liberal commentary site Slate, noted that Trump had "instructed the Pentagon to loosen the rules of engagement for airstrikes to the minimum required by international law, eliminated White House oversight procedures meant to protect civilians, and ordered the CIA to resume covert targeted killing missions." (He meant it as a criticism.)

Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, who can hardly be called a Trump lap dog, praised what he said was "a dramatic shift in a very positive way — away from the political micromanaging of the Obama years to freeing up generals and troops to destroy ISIS."

The result of this shift seems pretty obvious. In July, ISIS was booted from Mosul, and this week Raqqa was liberated. For all intents and purposes, ISIS has been defeated. Trump did in nine months what Obama couldn't in the previous three years.

Trump's critics will insist that victory was inevitable, given that Obama had severely degraded ISIS over the previous years, and that all Trump did was continue Obama's strategy.

But the bottom line is that while Obama preached patience, Trump promised a swift end to ISIS, and then delivered on it.

https://www.investors.com/politics/...-in-months-after-years-of-excuses-from-obama/

Is there any doubt that if Obama was still Commander-In-Chief we'd still be degrading ISIS?

During the campaign, Trump promised to "bomb the hell" out of ISIS and he delivered:

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-airstrike-total-against-isis-in-iraq-and-syria-2017-4
 
Yeah, PH has been on that kick for a while now. During Obama’s last 2 years there was an average of 30 sorties a day aimed at ISIS. ISIS came into existence on his watch and it would not bother me at all to credit him for defeating them but it just isn’t so.

Lefties like PH just can’t allow Trump to have too many policy victories. ISIS are not much of an issue anymore, in fact you hardly hear about them. I think it boils down to Trump taking the advice of his military and letting them do the job that Obama wouldn’t allow them to do. For whatever reasons.
 

ChuckFaze

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On the one hand, I think MAYBE this means the Maximum Pressure sanctions have finally started to hurt Kim. Maybe he has finally been administered the equivalent of a couple of kicks to the groin and a kick to both knees. That's why he wants to finally negotiate ... before it gets worse. Specially now that the Olympics are over and they are no longer there to prevent the military option by his opponent.

On the other hand, I seriously don't see a denuclearization actually happening. I just believe there is zero chance of Kim actually agreeing by whatever means, by whatever conditions to wipe out his current nuclear arsenal. And I just don't see Trump agreeing to compromise by saying sayyy ... Okay, you can keep 50 ... or 100 ... or whatever amount of nuclear missiles.

But, I hope I'm wrong and the 2 minutes till midnight or whatever the armageddon clock says it is ... finally gets neutralized.
 
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