The UK wants to ban porn
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Good. You shouldn't be lookin at that stuff.
Hard right conservatives who are also porn consumers have a quite a little dilemma on their hands. That's what happens when you ally with the so-called moral majority.
Are you talking about the UK? I'm not familiar with British politics other than their legislative sessions can get pretty boisterous and amusing. Was this push from conservatives over there? And are conservatives over there considered liberals over here?
If you're talking about the hard right and the moral majority in the states, I think if they're ever is a push to ban or censor pornography more it'll be from today's moral majority - the politically correct left.
GOP platform draft declares pornography 'public health crisis'
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/11/politics/gop-platform-republican-convention-internet-pornography/
Republicans accusing other government of trying to ban porn is like nazis claiming other countries are anti-semitic
Alos, in cas you didn't knew : the UK is actually governed by the CONSERVATIVE PARTY (Yeah, that's the name of the party).
I rest my case
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/11/politics/gop-platform-republican-convention-internet-pornography/
Republicans accusing other government of trying to ban porn is like nazis claiming other countries are anti-semitic
Alos, in cas you didn't knew : the UK is actually governed by the CONSERVATIVE PARTY (Yeah, that's the name of the party).
I rest my case
I didn't accuse anyone of trying to ban porn here.
Again, what's considered conservative over there isn't necessarily what is over here. Isn't David Cameron a social liberal?
And that GOP platform proposal deals with children's access to pornography and sexual predators. They didn't get into details, but I doubt their gonna want to ban face-sitting videos.
If there ever was going to be a ban on pornography it would've been during W's first term when he had Ashcroft as AG, congress, and a 5-4 among the supremes.
And under the Obama's DOJ didn't they go after pornstars banking? Operation Chokepoint.
And again, this crap comes around. Same crap in a slightly different package.
I have no objection to them stopping children viewing porn. But instead of penalising the people who are legally allowed to view whatever they want, how about putting the responsibility back onto the shoulders of parents? I also find it slightly amusing that a group of people who are repeatedly shown to be morally corrupt (vice, porn, dodgy associations) are again trying to tell everyone else what they can and cannot watch when it comes to porn.
Well done voters South of Scotland, you've got the parliament you voted for.
I have no objection to them stopping children viewing porn. But instead of penalising the people who are legally allowed to view whatever they want, how about putting the responsibility back onto the shoulders of parents? I also find it slightly amusing that a group of people who are repeatedly shown to be morally corrupt (vice, porn, dodgy associations) are again trying to tell everyone else what they can and cannot watch when it comes to porn.
Well done voters South of Scotland, you've got the parliament you voted for.
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Nope, he isn't. His predecessors, Gordon Brown (June 2007 - May 2010) and Tony Blair (May 1997 - June 2007) were social-liberals, the are members of the Labour Party.
David Cameron is a conservative, he's a member of the Conservative Party (just like Winston Churchill and Margaret Thatcher).
Actually David Cameron is not even the Prime Minister of UK. He left after th Brexit. Teresa May is now the Prime Minister. She's also a conservative, a member of the Conservative Party
I know Cameron isn't the PM. But this current crackdown on porn began on his watch, right? Like I said, I'm not familiar with British politics. I guess I could Google it, but I'm edging to face-sitting and spanking videos right now.
And today's British conservative would be equal to our moderate democrat, right? Except the Torys who are just codgy old assholes or something.
We're now at 4-4, awaiting for Trump to appoint the 9th judge, which would most likely be a conservative (even thought some might say he could nominate a liberal, congress would never allow him to). 3 of these 8 judges are over 75 : Ginsburg (Liberal) is 83, Dreyer (Liberal) is 83 and Kennedy (Conservative) is 80. So at the end of Trump mandate, we might look at a 7-2 Conservative SCOTUS
insha allah.
The US political spectrum is shifted to the right from th political spectrum of most europeans countries (due to the fact that there's no left party in the US, the the Democrats, which would be center-right on the europeean political spectrum, is considered to be left).
Also, the importance of Religion is US politics makes it difficult to compare US political parties to european political parties.
On Wikipedia, the Conservative Party's ideology is described as more right-wing than the ideology of the US Democratic Party.
I think tha, on a global political spectrum, the UK Conservative party would cover the most right-wing part of the US Democratic Party and the more Left-wing part of the Republican party.
I think David Cameron or Teresa May could agrree on most things with peple such as John Kasich, Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, Marco Rubio or Hillary Clinton but they would have strong disagreements with people such as Ted Cruz, Mike Huckabee , Bobby Jindal, Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren
Rey C.
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Yes, somewhat true, although it started earlier with the Meese Commission during the Reagan Administration. But yes, it was the election of W. Bush that led to the Cambria List (a preemptive, voluntary, self-censorship initiative within the porn industry). The porn industry wanted to avoid the same issues and clampdowns that it went through with the Reagan Administration and Edwin Meese (AG). I find it interesting how Paul Cambria's list of prohibited activities roughly matches up to the one that the UK had in its Audiovisual Media Services Regulations 2014 ban (what's going on in the UK now has been worked on for several years).
The Cambria List:
Box-Cover Guidelines/Movie Production Guidelines:
Before selecting a chrome please check facial expression. Do not use any shots that depict any unhappiness or pain.
Do not include any of the following:
- No shots with appearance of pain or degradation
- No facials (bodyshots are OK if shot is not nasty)
- No bukakke
- No spitting or saliva mouth to mouth
- No food used as sex object
- No peeing unless in a natural setting, e.g., field, roadside
- No coffins
- No blindfolds
- No wax dripping
- No two dicks in/near one mouth
- No shot of stretching pussy
- No fisting
- No squirting
- No bondage-type toys or gear unless very light
- No girls sharing same dildo (in mouth or pussy)
- Toys are OK if shot is not nasty
- No hands from 2 different people fingering same girl
- No male/male penetration
- No transsexuals
- No bi-sex
- No degrading dialogue, e.g., "Suck this cock, bitch" while slapping her face with a penis
- No menstruation topics
- No incest topics
- No forced sex, rape themes, etc.
- No black men-white women themes
Audiovisual Media Services Regulations 2014
Effectively bans the following acts from being depicted by British pornography producers:
- Spanking
- Caning
- Aggressive whipping
- Penetration by any object "associated with violence"
- Physical or verbal abuse (regardless of if consensual)
- Urolagnia (known as "water sports")
- Role-playing as non-adults
- Physical restraint
- Humiliation
- Female ejaculation
- Strangulation
- Facesitting
- Fisting
Seemingly so. Had Holder's DoJ gone after money laundering by organized crime operations, drug cartels and money center banks with the same zeal that it had in going after certain porn stars and producers, I believe that a major dent could have been put in the narco-crime problem that we have in the U.S. But in this era of superficiality and PC "identity politics" (and the corruptive turning of blind eyes because of big money donors), that didn't happen.
As for who/what is behind the UK's crackdown, although I haven't read Will's article indepth, my assumption is that it is the same forces that drove Reagan/Meese, Bush/Ashcroft and Obama/Holder to attack porn: a bizarre alliance between the religious right and the feminist left. With Reagan/Meese and Bush/Ashcroft, the Evangelicals took the lead. With Obama/Holder, the feminists took the lead. Had Hillary won, there's no doubt that the feminists would have led again (much of the post-election screeching that we hear now is coming from the feminazi left). Now, with Trump, I suspect that the pressure will mostly come from the Evangelicals again. In the UK, with a MUCH smaller, less influential Evangelical Christian population (and a greater tendency toward and acceptance of "nanny state" politics), UK feminist groups like Feminista and Object seem to have the loudest voice in shaping PC/nanny state legislation that affects women's issues (including the Equality Act of 2010). Also, the UK doesn't have the same kinds of protections on speech that we have in the U.S., so pushing these things through (and making them stick) isn't quite as difficult.
I always found it funny and odd that the thought controlling, socialist embracing, left wing feminist movement in the U.S. would have been joined at the hip with the (social) right wingers in the Evangelical movement, as well as the right wingers and neocons in the Reagan and W. Bush administrations. Orwellian Newspeak lying in bed with Bible thumpers. Gloria Steinem, Patricia Ireland, Catherine MacKinnon and Andrea Dworkin bumping uglies with Edwin Meese and John Ashcroft...
:throwup:Regardless where the pressure comes from, porn isn't going anywhere in America. It's as ingrained as baseball and apple pie. We repealed prohibition because it was stupid and for the same reason we're not going to outlaw porn. It's the same reason there's not ever going to be a death penalty for drinking and driving - because those in power do it all the time.
Rey C.
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It's not that porn is going away. Depending on how you want to define "porn", it's not going away in the UK either. It's that certain types of porn (the types that the power brokers and social elites don't want to exist or be widely available domestically) will be moved to the fringe, while the types that they approve of will be left alone. Put simply, there will be increases in censorship, whether it's government backed, backed by groups which have government backing or just industry accepted standards (as per Cambria). Little pro-am sites can always put things out. But they might find the boot heel of a powerful force on their necks at some point - and you'll never know why they suddenly disappeared from the interwebz.
I used to converse with the folks who owned Studio One and NY Live back in the 80's. I already know what happens when you don't play by Big Brother's rules.
I used to converse with the folks who owned Studio One and NY Live back in the 80's. I already know what happens when you don't play by Big Brother's rules.
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