The Towers Of London

[CaDDaFy]

I dont know what to think of this new band, they have the dont give a fuck attitude like the sex pistols witch i like but go around dressed like motley crew

and why the fuck does it always kick off at there gigs


Rev & dirk Kick this guys ass in the street
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8E0ArRDyXs

http://www.thetowersoflondon.com/

 

[dave_rhino]

They are fucking cunts. Fuck this shitty band.

They aren't rock and roll they are TRYING to be rock and roll. And that isn't what it's about.

One of them recently went into Celebrity Big Brother... YEAH, THATS FUCKING ROCK AND ROLL ISN'T IT. And then he fucking quit 3 days later. If anything is worse than a sell-out loser, it's a sell-out loser who quits.

They are fucking sell out shit. They were created by the industry the same way bands like Busted and McFly were made. And they were promoted straight away by their own television show. Thats because this band was created for the television show... Money machine. And a shit one at that.

At a recent gig someone said to them "You are just a rip off of Motley Crue" so they beat him up... Then after the gig, the entire band got the complete shit kicked out of them by an angry, un-entertained mob. My only wish is that they had died.

I

HATE

FAKE

MUSIC

 

[member006]

They are fucking cunts. Fuck this shitty band.

They aren't rock and roll they are TRYING to be rock and roll. And that isn't what it's about.

One of them recently went into Celebrity Big Brother... YEAH, THATS FUCKING ROCK AND ROLL ISN'T IT. And then he fucking quit 3 days later. If anything is worse than a sell-out loser, it's a sell-out loser who quits.

They are fucking sell out shit. They were created by the industry the same way bands like Busted and McFly were made. And they were promoted straight away by their own television show. Thats because this band was created for the television show... Money machine. And a shit one at that.

At a recent gig someone said to them "You are just a rip off of Motley Crue" so they beat him up... Then after the gig, the entire band got the complete shit kicked out of them by an angry, un-entertained mob. My only wish is that they had died.

I

HATE

FAKE

MUSIC

So I take it you didn't purchase their newest CD?

On topic "I have no comment on the issue."

LL:glugglug:

 

[jumbo_jim]

I don't like them. Doesn't bother me what they do but the simple fact is there music sucks.

 

[lazyfatboy]

i like them, the were on first when i seen guns n roses in glasgow, i didnt think much of them at the time but now iv had the chance to hear them a few times i think the album is realy good, my 18 month old daughter likes them aswell she likes to dance to some of the songs.
i dont agree whith them being sell outs because donny went on big brother, he went on it because the albums wasnt selling, im pretty sure the whole country has heard of them now and the albums sales will pick up a bit

 

[poggy]

They are fucking cunts. Fuck this shitty band.

Just about says it all for me too.


They are trying to do just what the Sex Pistols did. Grab fame for the way you act. Covering up the fact that your music's terrible!

 

[calpoon]

yeah, I like how the sex pistols succeeded in bringing down England's government and enacting social reform.

Anarchy in the UK!

 

[poggy]

yeah, I like how the sex pistols succeeded in bringing down England's government and enacting social reform.

Anarchy in the UK!

When was that ?

In the whole 1 year that punk lasted for ?

Yes 1 year and I'm old enough to know that too. Punk was really a flash in music terms, it soon went back to a dark corner in the music world. Only to be heard by a few people who actually thought it was more than just a noise.

Social reform happened long before the Sex Pistols came along.

 

[calpoon]

Social reform happened long before the Sex Pistols came along.

that really made me laugh out loud. I must really be out of the loop then because no one told me about it.

 

[Sutekh35]

I'm with Dave Rhino. I get accused of being a sell out frequently because I play the kind of music that sounds like I dunno, Keane or something, nice on the ears and melodic instead of screaming and yelling. But you know what? I'd rather be un-cool but sing what's from the heart and what's real, than be a fake "punk" like 95% of the punk bands out there today. I give Green Day credit because they have a lot of influence and they have a lot of originality, but generally, every punk band that makes it today are as fake as can be, and TOL epitomize fake punk, they may as well be Blondie.

Whats wrong with Blondie?

 

[Roughneck]

So the moral of the story?

1. If you become even remotely successful, you're automatically a "sell out" - especially if you're a "punk" band (?)
2. Bands that rage against 'labeling' and 'pigeon holing' will be categorised, pigeon holed and labeled - be it "punk", "rock", "what have you".

*shrug*

Personally - There's only two kinds of music. "Good" music (i.e. the kind I find appealing) and "bad" music (i.e. Music I do not find "appealing"). The rest is mere window dressing. My musical tastes range from Beethoven to Eminem. From Led Zeppelin to Iron Maiden. From Porcupine Tree to Pearl Jam. I don't reject something simply because it's "pop" or "they are sell out pussies". Great bands have made some shitty music - and know-nothings have also made enduring one hit wonders.

Labeling is shite anyways - Pink Floyd have variously been labeled as "pop", "Psychedelia", "Rock", "Progressive Rock" etc. To me, it never stood for anything other than a marketing gimick by record companies popularized by radio stations to make it more appealing.

Musical taste is subjective anyway - art is in the eye of the beholder and critique is nothing more than subjective opinion masquerading as fact.


Appreciate art for what it is, ladies and gents. And if it not your cup o' tea - then leave it be.

My $ 0.67,

 

[poggy]

This made me laugh... I think Calpoon was being sarcastic about the Sex Pistols. Punk was a pretty big deal though, really, because it changed the "road map to success" for many bands and while it had a hundred bad points, it also had some good points too... it was a good "fuck you" to corporate control until the corporations regained control and outmarketed real punk with their own rose smelling versions.

I never listened to punk but I appreciate what it did and what it meant, I don't approve of a lot of what it entailed, but I definitely understand what it stood for and appreciate it for that. Ironically, my favourite music and that which influences me most intenseny, began shortly after punk died along with Lyden.

Fox

Like I said Fox I was there. I'm old enough to have been there for the whole year punk was around. It did nothing but show how big a arseholes some people and bands can be, nothing else. It didn't change anything really, that wasn't already changing or had changed.

 

[calpoon]

that made me think of this:

"Q: Is it wrong to buy or deal with major labels? What about labels that use
major-owned (or partly major-owned) distributors like ADA, RED, Caroline, Fontana, etc?

A: in my opinion, yes. they are companies. they have one goal, making money and i would say they are exploiting something beautiful. music is magic to me. i love the music i release and it means a lot more to me than the 5$. i really want people to hear the music i release. i don't think the people at warner brothers give a shit. i don't think any DIY or PUNK "business" should ever deal with any of these people. even the smallest dealing is a slip in the wrong direction. we don't need them.

Q: Is a punk band still punk if they sign to a major label? Is there ever a
good excuse to sign to a major label?

A: no, and no. some people would argue this point. but i really don't think, at least not by my personal ideal of what punk means, that a band can be punk if they are on a major label. maybe they have a punk sound but to me a band should have a lot more than a sound to be punk. my house mate plays cute songs on his classical guitar and he is punk as fuck. much more punk than blink 182. of course this is just my opinion. i don't think there is ever a good reason to sign to a major. never. some bands try to say that they want their message to reach more people. but there's not one example of that working. i always say, your message gets lost at the mall. the connection can not be formed in a big business setting. a basement show can save your life. buying a 15$ cd in a corporate shop will never make that impact."

 

[Montrealman]

Punk? IMO The Quireboys are more punk, lol.

Would've been cool had it been real.

 

[washingtonyrk]

Punk was about rebelling - this bunch of public schoolboys prats are rebelling against what, exactly?

Bunch of dick-heads - and yes, they look more like refugees from a crap glam rock band than punks.

 

[Sutekh35]

Got to say that there were some excellent Punk bands such as The Buzzcocks, and two that started as Punk and became more eclectic- Magazine and Wire. They all let their music do the talking.

 

[om3ga]

Like I said Fox I was there. I'm old enough to have been there for the whole year punk was around. It did nothing but show how big a arseholes some people and bands can be, nothing else. It didn't change anything really, that wasn't already changing or had changed.

Ditto - all Punk did was put Bill Grundy out of a job, and make Mr. & Mrs. "Angry of Mayfair" complain a lot.....

PS: Never heard of the Towers Of London, but I'm pretty much out of what passes for a music scene these days....:dunno:

 

[dave_rhino]

So the moral of the story?

1. If you become even remotely successful, you're automatically a "sell out" - especially if you're a "punk" band (?)
2. Bands that rage against 'labeling' and 'pigeon holing' will be categorised, pigeon holed and labeled - be it "punk", "rock", "what have you".

*shrug*

No, this is not the problem at all.

I know that if bands get successful, then they are gona take it as far as they can and get as much money as they want. It's their music, and their lives, so do it i say.

The only reason this band is sell-out is because it was manufactured by a record company. The band didn't exist, then all of a sudden a guy in an office was like "yeah i'll created an in-your-face punk band and make lots of money with them".

That is not music, it's fake, and only created to make money.

 

[Roughneck]

Hi Dave,

I think my whole point was that I'm somewhat ambivalent about the notion of "sell out" in the first place - particularly because I don't believe in 'labels' and in 'categorizing' music/art.

Thusly, the argument that "it's not real music but manufactured shite" doesn't really ring bells with yours truly - because yours truly has seen the same argument repeated for decades now.

There has always been "good music" (music you like) and "shit music" (music you don't like)... all through the ages.

People are deluding themselves if they think there was no "shit music" before record companies came along [I mean really, "good music"/"shit music" is subjective anyways].

You think "marketing gimmicks to make more money" is a pejorative of only record companies? Or that bands didn't use similar tactics before major label record companies came into existence?


Ladies and gents: This is not a new phenomenon. It is as old as music itself. Trust this old fart.

cheers,

 

[dave_rhino]

I know there has always been gimmicks to make money, but it is not always blatent as making a new band that doesn't even write there own music, and putting them straight into their own TV show purely for the money. No feeling in their music, and not trying to make the world a better place by making good music. purely for money.

I know that it's been done a lot in the past, but i probably don't like those bands either! Just the same reason i don't like this band.