The tone of porn is becoming uglier

[torontoguy]

Hi guys 'n' gals,
I'm new to Freeones, and glad to be here! obviously this crowd sees a lot of porn, so i'm hoping we can have a good discussion about the way it's changing.

Over the last 5 years or so I've noticed a distinct trend in porn where the girls are spoken to in a very mean way, constantly called 'bitches', the guys almost never have a word to say except issue orders ("gag on it" "spread your fucking ass" "look at me while you do that" etc.) the girls are treated fairly roughly, etc. etc. etc.

I dunno about you, but being a heterosexual, I freaking *LIKE* women! Not only the way they look, but their humour, friendliness, their smarts, how sexy and loving they can be.

So I hate seeing this rough stuff. It is a total turn off for me. Not only that, but considering that any kid can see porn online anytime they want, I'm concerned that kids will grow up thinking this is the right way to treat women.

What do y'all think?

 

[Ace Bandage]

We don't have good discussions around here, Scooter. This thread will degenerate into madness that you cannot even fathom. Wait until Voltaire's angry glove rears its ugly head. You're going to be crying in a corner while curled up in the fetal position.

Back on topic. Frankly, I don't think there's enough misogyny in porn. Every woman that I know refers to me as "Your Excellency" and waits on me hand and foot lest they suffer the consequences. They could be so lucky to get slapped around and told what to do...

 

[Hypergalaxy]

I can agree with what the OP is saying it does seem like the tone has become more abusive for the most part but there is still some good stuff just harder to find. Hopefully the whole tone doesnt change to the same one day

 

[bigd333]

I totally agree with torontoguy. I find it a turn off also. I don't like to see women treated like that and anytime I watch a vid where that is the tone I turn it off. I agree with the last statement as well.

 

[LezFemmez]

So I hate seeing this rough stuff. It is a total turn off for me.

If you haven't already you should probably try out Sweet Sinner's stuff.

 

[GregCentauro]

You are watching the wrong stuff. The answer to all your woes: Europorn. The girls are prettier, there is only little degradation and hardly any douchy talk involved.

 

[Kingfisher]

Like I've said before, not every girl ordering a pizza, wants to have a train pulled on her ass with a bukake glaze party for dessert. That's exactly what porn has become. When you stop watching that crap, they'll stop making that crap.

 

[LukeEl]

That is why I still watch porn made in the 90's....I cannot stand the latest trends in porn most of the time these days and end up fast forwarding through a majority of it.

 

[jod0565]

I like that kind of stuff, but it is not the only stuff I like.

"When you stop watching that crap, they'll stop making that crap." - Kingfisher

That's what drives the market - people buying and watching certain genres.

 

[tudor24]

I just want the guys to shut the fuck up. I don't care how aggressive the sex is, but I wanna hear HER not the guy fucking her.

 

[titsrock]

I think the rough direction started showing up around 2003 actually. I agree that fat, ugly guy ordering hot chick around gets old real quick.

There is zero chemistry in the world of porn today. Whenever I see a girl sitting on a couch, I'm pretty sure the forthcoming scene will be bad and a 1x watch.

Part of the reason why I like going to strip clubs is the girls flirt and make me feel good. I know they don't want to marry me or be my GF. But they make me feel like my company is worth something to them (not just a drink or a dance). That's really all it takes. 2 adults flirting with each other and liking each other's company.

Somehow we need to get some chemistry between the male and the female back. Maybe we need to break the kissing taboo in porn and get people making out with each before the clothes come off?

 

[tudor24]

I would agree we need more variety in porn.

I do enjoy a scene where it is clear that the girl is there to get every hole stretched and eventually left laying there looking totally used up with a streams of cum across her face as we fade to black.

I also a enjoy they type of porn from the 1990's as well. I like two fairly attractive people who have some chemistry, looking into each other eyes etc. Ashlyn Gere, Jeanna Fine and Juli Ashton come to mind.

The industry needs to find the next versions of these women and get them out front as well. More Jenna Hazes

There will always be a use em up and get rid of em misogyny in porn though.

 

[Icewater Jones]

All that Facial Abuse/ The Minnion type material is bullshit. A lot of this 'not quite rape' porn with creepy outta shape abusive stepfather type dudes needs to go. It was played out when Max Hardcore was doing it and it's played out now.

Now we also have lame-ass dudes wearing strap-ons fucking girls as well. Is this what it all has come to??? Spraying chicks in the face with pina colada mix??? We got male pornstars, with 100's of scenes, that have never fucked anyone! Is it too much to ask to get back to the mid 90's material?

I think 92'-02' had the best porn ever. Variety and quality was top notch from the major distributors. Anabolic/Diabolic, Vivid, Elegant Angel, Seymore Butts/Shane, Video Team, Evil Angel, etc... were great all across the board. No gimmicks... no bullshit so-called fetishes. It's about damn time porn goes back to getting it right.

 

[SpexyAshleigh]

Agreed. It actually bothers me that guys enjoy this kind of thing. I get that its "fantasy" and all, but fantasizing about being abusive towards women is just one step away from actually living it out. And most people eventually need to make fantasy reality in some sense or form in order to be completely satisfied. Its the same thing with kiddie porn. Viewers use it to "control" their desires and keep it fantasy but it usually always leads up to something more. I'm going to get alot of shit for this, but I think porn that promotes or re-enacts abuse, severe degredation or anything that would be illegal IRL..should be banned. I get the whole "freedom of speech" and people having the right to "creativity, but people shouldn't have the right to put that kind of filth out into the world.

 

[Peashooter]

Over the last 5 years or so I've noticed a distinct trend in porn where the girls are spoken to in a very mean way, constantly called 'bitches', the guys almost never have a word to say except issue orders ("gag on it" "spread your fucking ass" "look at me while you do that" etc.) the girls are treated fairly roughly, etc. etc. etc.

I dunno about you, but being a heterosexual, I freaking *LIKE* women! Not only the way they look, but their humour, friendliness, their smarts, how sexy and loving they can be.

So I hate seeing this rough stuff. It is a total turn off for me. Not only that, but considering that any kid can see porn online anytime they want, I'm concerned that kids will grow up thinking this is the right way to treat women.

What do y'all think?

I agree 100%. I hate when you see a really hot girl, the scene starts out good, then the guy ends up grabbing her by the throat and choking the shit out of her. Grabbing a handful of hair and yanking it. I saw a video a couple of weeks ago where the guy grabbed her by the throat and literally slammed her head against the floor. I do MMA, so physical stuff like that doesn't bother me, except when it's done to a girl.

Agreed. It actually bothers me that guys enjoy this kind of thing. I get that its "fantasy" and all, but fantasizing about being abusive towards women is just one step away from actually living it out. And most people eventually need to make fantasy reality in some sense or form in order to be completely satisfied. Its the same thing with kiddie porn. Viewers use it to "control" their desires and keep it fantasy but it usually always leads up to something more. I'm going to get alot of shit for this, but I think porn that promotes or re-enacts abuse, severe degredation or anything that would be illegal IRL..should be banned. I get the whole "freedom of speech" and people having the right to "creativity, but people shouldn't have the right to put that kind of filth out into the world.

True, I often wonder who really enjoys shit like that. There are so many guys in porn that I would love to punch in the face because they are so fucking annoying. Better yet, sink in a choke on them and keep them at the brink of passing out for a little while, see how they like it.

 

[SpexyAshleigh]

True, I often wonder who really enjoys shit like that. .

If I ever found a bf of mine enjoyed pornography of that kind of violent nature, I'd honestly be afraid for my safety. Anyone who can enjoy violence towards women, and actually orgasm because the sight of a woman being dominated is so arousing...is someone that can't be trusted IMO. Ticking time bomb...fantasy could turn into wanting to make it a reality. Not worth the risk!

But I don't get it. I'm a female, so I can't really have that male perspective, but even being a female who HAS to be dominant in all of my sexcapades...I could never ever imagine causing pain to another human being, or putting someone into such a scary and degrading position. And I'm a very dominant person, both sexually and also in my day to day life. I'm all for guys having fetishes, and liking wierd crap...pun totally intended...but I just can't understand how any human being with any sort of heart...can watch that and not be disturbed. *shrugs*

 

[J_Mags]

If I ever found a bf of mine enjoyed pornography of that kind of violent nature, I'd honestly be afraid for my safety. Anyone who can enjoy violence towards women, and actually orgasm because the sight of a woman being dominated is so arousing...is someone that can't be trusted IMO. Ticking time bomb...fantasy could turn into wanting to make it a reality. Not worth the risk!

But I don't get it. I'm a female, so I can't really have that male perspective, but even being a female who HAS to be dominant in all of my sexcapades...I could never ever imagine causing pain to another human being, or putting someone into such a scary and degrading position. And I'm a very dominant person, both sexually and also in my day to day life. I'm all for guys having fetishes, and liking wierd crap...pun totally intended...but I just can't understand how any human being with any sort of heart...can watch that and not be disturbed. *shrugs*

Yup...that about sums it up.

 

[Legzman]

Over the last 5 years or so I've noticed a distinct trend in porn where the girls are spoken to in a very mean way, constantly called 'bitches', the guys almost never have a word to say except issue orders ("gag on it" "spread your fucking ass" "look at me while you do that" etc.) the girls are treated fairly roughly, etc. etc. etc.

so?

 

[Wizard Sleeves]

One way to stop this kind of porn is to get the female pornstars to stop signing up to do this kind of porn. Ever think maybe it's not just guys who are into that kind of stuff. I totally don't like that kind of porn either, but it doesn't help that females actually agree to do the scenes. They aren't forced to do anything they don't want to do, if they agree to do it, maybe they actually enjoy being told what to do and being "roughed up."

 

[habo9]

The thing is the women dont have to do it but there happy to for the cash..........no-ones holding a gun to there heads

So I think the moral highground should fall at the women , who are willing to do it. They dont have to..

Its not something I go for and theres far too much of it now , but the way I see it , is if everyone who is involved in it is happy doing it , whats the problem? :dunno: