The Dark Knight broke the all-time opening

it wasn't a lack of realism that made the late 90's batman movies suck, it was bad writing, casting and sets.
It was the lack of realism..since the bad writing, casting, sets, costumes, etc. lended to the lack of realism....

Batman's "tech" is militaristic in nature. We first saw him wear a black kevlar suit and use rapid climbing gear. Then he progressed to base jumping ability. Then he wanted a "visual" effect to induce fear in his enemies (the Batman look). Hell, his "tech" makes the old James Bond films and "Q" tech look like crackerjack box silliness.

I think the fundamental presentation of the origin of Batman and the anarchy terrorism/cleverly-crafted plots of The Joker is very "real world" realistic. Batman is not "super human" or "alien." He is a mortal man. How would someone actually be a Batman today? Well, someone would have to be rich and have access to the tech. A billionaire scion seems like a reasonable solution. So how does a Male Paris Hilton pull this off? By being a playboy douchebag by day...crime fighter by night...

Basically, it's grounded in reality. Same with the new Bond movies. No more "dapper gent" Bond avoiding death and destruction without a single hair out of place. The new Bond faces "real" threats and bleeds.

You can certainly hate the movie. I thought the "bat sonar" ability went too far. I didn't need Batman to have "sonar" ability. I don't need him to "become a bat." I like the symbol of fear.
 
Please...no Angelina Jolie...maybe the female villain needs to be that "Harlaquin" character...sort of a maniac "Joker" worshipper...ex-assassin-type. Or she could be a clever thief who's able to commit capers and leave traps for Batman...

That poster was pretty good. It might borrow a little too much of "Joker" vibe though. I think a "realistic" Riddler would be wealthy and ballsy. Sort of like the anti-Bruce Wayne...
 
No Angelina and no Catwoman! They are going to ruin the franchise if they keep this shit up.Talia Al Ghul,it's the only choice that makes sense.She looks just like Jennifer Carpenter in this picture.Dare to compare.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Talia_Al_Ghul_batman_and_ra.jpg
http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/35/70/0000043570_20071001180505.jpg
I wish I was on the creative team,because I would definitely try my damndest to make sure this happens

I don't see how having Angelina Jolie adds anything to the franchise except for the fanboys to drool over the fact that she's Catwoman.
 

Violator79

Take a Hit, Spunker!
I seriously doubt they'll make any bad choices for the 3rd movie. Remember when Heath Ledger was cast as the Joker? Everyone thought it was a bad idea, but look what he did. He blew everything we thought we knew about him and the character out of the water. The Batman Begins series is Christopher Nolan's baby and I seriously doubt he'll make any bad choices on character selection and actor selection.
 
I seriously doubt they'll make any bad choices for the 3rd movie. Remember when Heath Ledger was cast as the Joker? Everyone thought it was a bad idea, but look what he did.

I don't think that everyone thought that Ledger was a bad idea,So I think that you're being a little presumptuous.

As far as it being Nolan's baby and him not messing it up,I tend to lean more toward that side of the fence,but that doesn't mean that every decision that he is going to make is going to be as good as gold.

I didn't think that neither Maggie Gyllenhall nor Katie Holmes were good choices as Rachel,and I think that there are a lot of people that would agree with me.

I will say that if they put Catwoman in the next film,I seriously doubt that it will be any better than the first two,unless they just write a seriously kick ass screenplay.
 
fan made Riddler/batman 3 poster

http://newfilmdimension.com/2008/08/15/fan-created-batman-3-riddler-poster/

looks awesome! shame its not the real deal though
Probably the best fanmade Riddler poster I've seen for a sequel to TDK yet. Thanks for posting.

As far as Angelina asking Tera Patrick advice on playing Catwoman? I'll take that with a grain of salt. I seriously doubt Nolan's done any shopping around for any actor's/actresses at this early stage. As a matter of fact, both Nolan and Goyer seem to suggest that neither Catwoman, or The Penguin will be featured in Nolan's third Bat-flick. But again, it's way too early right now, and anything is highly likely to be just mere fan speculation.
 
Probably the best fanmade Riddler poster I've seen for a sequel to TDK yet. Thanks for posting.

As far as Angelina asking Tera Patrick advice on playing Catwoman? I'll take that with a grain of salt. I seriously doubt Nolan's done any shopping around for any actor's/actresses at this early stage. As a matter of fact, both Nolan and Goyer seem to suggest that neither Catwoman, or The Penguin will be featured in Nolan's third Bat-flick. But again, it's way too early right now, and anything is highly likely to be just mere fan speculation.

x2.
It's kinda funny that not even a week after TDK comes out that people can't just savor it without thinking about a third movie.

I find it hard to think that they are even writing a script yet,and you never know that he might decide to do another movie in between TDK and the next Batman movie,just like how he did the Prestige between the 1st and 2nd movies.

I'm kinda tired of hearing about "Oh,Philip Seymour Hoffman would be a cool Penguin",or "Angelina would make a good Catwoman".Maybe they could work,but what would they add to the overall themes that have already been presented?I'm surprised that there aren't more fools out there clamoring to see Mr. Freeze or Man-Bat.I could hear it now,"Man,Ben Kingsley would make a kick ass Mr. Freeze!"

*Actually,just thinking about it,he would make a good Mr. Freeze,but not for Nolan's Batman,more for Joel Schumaker's*

I'll keep saying this until it's officially announced,I'd like to see...
Riddler-Guy Pierce,(all the fanboys want to see Crispin Glover,but I just don't like that choice)
Talia Al Ghul-Jennifer Carpenter


The "Do Not Introduce" list...
Catwoman,Bane,Penguin,Mr. Freeze,Clayface,Harley Quinn,Killer Croc,Poison Ivy,Man Bat,and any other outlandish foes that I forgot.

I originally thought that Black Mask could work,but after reading up on him I'd have to give a thumbs down to him.The reason being that it would seem a bit redundant to have yet another villain with a sort of "facial issue".Although,if they were to go that route,I think that Vin Diesel would be my choice.
 
http://www.boxofficeguru.com/weekend.htm

Settling for second place for the first time, The Dark Knight captured $16.4M and boosted its amazing cume to $471.1M. That allowed the Heath Ledger film to overtake Star Wars' $461M tally for the number two spot on the list of all-time domestic blockbusters. Of course, the original Darth Vader pic still sold more tickets given the differences in prices over the last few decades when it was released multiple times. As for tickets sold, the new Bruce Wayne actioner has generated roughly 66 million admissions putting it ahead of 2003's The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (about 65 million) but a bit behind 2002's Spider-Man (approximately 69 million).

Knight displayed another great hold in its fifth weekend dipping only 37% for its lowest decline yet. Overseas, the Caped Crusader hauled in an estimated $42.4M lifting the international total to a stunning $328.2M and the global gross to an eye-popping $800M. That allowed The Dark Knight to surpass the $780M of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull to become 2008's highest grossing movie worldwide. The domestic cume now looks to reach about $525M while the global gross may break the $1 billion mark.
 

PlasmaTwa2

The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
There is no way it will outgross Titanic now. The international box office has me a bit suprised, I didn't know Batman was all that popular outside of North America and Europe. However, I don't think it will outgross Lord of the Rings. Maybe Pirates.
 

Violator79

Take a Hit, Spunker!
I saw this film last Sunday .. and loved it .. I thought Heath Ledger was mesmerising in it.
The only quibble I'd have is that it was a tad long .. about an hour or so into the movie where the two ferries were sailing I thought the plot lost some of it's pace.
Brilliant opening sequence with the bank heist ..love the Bat Pod .. cinematography wonderful ..Great performances all round.
I'm going again tomorrow :)
 

Spleen

Banned?
What I want to know is how the hell titantic made so much?
Me too. at the time i didnt really think much of it, but it really is an unbelievable number.

Leonardo Dicaprio. That's your answer.

well his other films never made it to the top spot.... so it was obviously Kate Winsletts tits :D
 
What I want to know is how the hell titantic made so much?

The most realistic theory, to me, is that Titanic had a perfectly four-quadrant appeal. The first half or so was weepy-ish romance, the second half thriller plus a moderate amount of well-choreographed action. This was all wrapped inside a big, throw-back-to-the-50s type epic.

That, and the fact that Spring '98 was dead boring for movies.

DiCaprio and Winslet drew the teens and art-house crowd, as both came from there. Winslet could've had DiCaprio's career. She was offered Shakespeare in Love, Elizabeth, AND Lord of the Rings within 1998-1999, but ironically enough, given her past record at that point, she wanted to leave the corset and costume movies. Winslet has said in interviews that she wanted to help make British films more famous, so she went back.
 
I also believe that the time Cameron's Titanic was making it's theatrical rounds played a large role as well in that films success. Sometimes, that's just the way it is. Certain films hit that certain flavor that audiences actually want at that point in time, and in return, enjoy the benefits of such timing.

Hell, i remember back in the summer of 1995, Batman Forever had one of the biggest weekend openings ever. Beating out both opening weekends for both Batman 1989, and Batman Returns. How could that happen? Well, personally I believe the timing was everything. At the time, I believe audiences wanted a more lighter, flashier Batman movie. And Schumacher delivered just that. Audiences ate it up, and I believe Forever outgrossed or essentially turned in a similar profit to that of Batman Returns.

THAT to me, is a result of timing being everything in some instances. But unfortunately, especially for Schumacher and WB, that doesnt necessarily mean films with great timing will continue to endure thru the years. This is quite evident as Forever, and needless to say B&R, are not looked back upon with much fondness by the fanbase. And some would say, for good reason as well.
 

Violator79

Take a Hit, Spunker!
well his other films never made it to the top spot.... so it was obviously Kate Winsletts tits :D

Nah, Kate bared her tits in other films so that was nothing new. It was the old lady in that night gown that did it! :D

I also believe that the time Cameron's Titanic was making it's theatrical rounds played a large role as well in that films success. Sometimes, that's just the way it is. Certain films hit that certain flavor that audiences actually want at that point in time, and in return, enjoy the benefits of such timing.

Hell, i remember back in the summer of 1995, Batman Forever had one of the biggest weekend openings ever. Beating out both opening weekends for both Batman 1989, and Batman Returns. How could that happen? Well, personally I believe the timing was everything. At the time, I believe audiences wanted a more lighter, flashier Batman movie. And Schumacher delivered just that. Audiences ate it up, and I believe Forever outgrossed or essentially turned in a similar profit to that of Batman Returns.

THAT to me, is a result of timing being everything in some instances. But unfortunately, especially for Schumacher and WB, that doesnt necessarily mean films with great timing will continue to endure thru the years. This is quite evident as Forever, and needless to say B&R, are not looked back upon with much fondness by the fanbase. And some would say, for good reason as well.


If my memory serves me correctly, but wasn't Titanic released during the holiday season? Still, other than having Leo, I have no clue how that movie became #1.
 
Top