The Blindness of Religious People

[Mariahxxx]

I was just driving to get coffee this morning and was listening to an interview on the radio with right wing pundit Tucker Carlson. I have heard him many times and sometimes he can be funny and doesn't seem to take himself too seriously, which is refreshing for a conservative talking head in today's world. But today he just proved he is yet another meat head religious zealot. He has been in the media lately because of a courthouse that has a Christian monument will now have an atheist one as well. He was saying that there shouldn't be one allowed because it's "anti-christian" which is a protest more than a favorable monument. He gave some examples of types of monuments HE would deem permissible, and others that he wouldn't.

He was asked by the interviewer if his very statements were violating the very same freedom of religion that he is permitted and he said "No, atheism isn't a religion, therefore it isn't protected" so in his world, it's ok to put up a religious monument on GOVERNMENT property using tax payer money, but not a non-religious one? He also predicted that it would be a target for graffiti **hint hint** **wink wink**

I know that atheists are a minority, but the fastest growing minority in the US. It is estimated that 46 million Americans do not believe in a supreme being which is a 5% increase in less than 5 years. When Tucker was asked if indeed Christianity wasn't about acceptance and freedom and forgiveness, he replied "absolutely not!" I don't know what version of Christianity Mr Carlson subscribes to but I have to believe that most christians share his views. They do not want to see the opposite ideas displayed side by side with christian ideas publicly.

Rick Perry just this week signed into law the "Merry Christmas bill" I have no problem with saying it or hearing it or knowing it's being said in any building anywhere, but to spend money and time to declare a law, that is ridiculous.

and isn't that by all definition BIG GOVERNMENT at work??? another tea party small government person making big government invasive laws.

So to you Christians, what do you think about tax payer money being used to put up religious monuments on government property? and furthermore, what is your stance on allowing ALL religious ideas and non-religious ideas to have the same space allotted to do so? I have a pretty good idea what the answers will be but I don't want to be unfair and assume.

 

[wdoall]

I have no problem with any of it aside for the tax issue. All such monuments should be donated funds and not tax money

 

[Mariahxxx]

but dont you think that allowing "donations" to put religious signs and messages on government property is unconstitutional and will allow groups to use government property to advertise which is clearly not legal?

 

[wdoall]

You have a good point but, like all legislation, guidelines would have to be established

 

[Mariahxxx]

how about just eliminating all special interests from being posted in government buildings? seems like a common sense and fair to all idea.

 

[Jack Davenport]

 

[Will E Worm]

a courthouse that has a Christian monument will now have an atheist one as well. He was saying that there shouldn't be one allowed because it's "anti-christian"

He's correct.


Court rules Atheism a religion. Link


A selfish, satanic religion.

 

[wdoall]

And Christianity is anti atheist it becomes a ridiculous loop people need to get off the PC wagon

 

[xfire]

He's correct. Court rules Atheism a religion. A selfish, satanic religion.

Then it's not much different from Christianity. I'm curious if Atheists hope for mass murder in Maryland, like Christians such as you do.

 

[Elwood70]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to xfire again.

 

[darkwarrior3007]

The Atheist monument should go up as well as other monuments to other religions or take them all down. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

As far as taxes being used to build these monuments, they should be donations not taxes. Again, Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

 

[Jack Davenport]

The Atheist monument should go up as well as other monuments to other religions or take them all down. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

As far as taxes being used to build these monuments, they should be donations not taxes. Again, Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

It's not congress, it's a courthouse in Bradford County Florida.

The Christian monument is exercising religion freely. Atheism is not a religion. Now go sit down and shut up.

 

[Sam Fisher]

It's not congress, it's a courthouse in Bradford County Florida.

The Christian monument is exercising religion freely. Atheism is not a religion. Now go sit down and shut up.

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[Will E Worm]

It's not congress, it's a courthouse in Bradford County Florida.

The Christian monument is exercising religion freely. Atheism is not a religion. Now go sit down and shut up.

Atheism is a delusion.

 

[Jack Davenport]

What is the difference in this thread and the one Petra locked? It is nothing but a way for Mariah to bait and take jabs at those who hold religious beliefs. Her position is clear to the rest of us, and unfortunately that is not enough for her.

 

[twat36975248664224]

Religion and Government are suppose to be separate. That's even a major rule that is suppose to be in government. Because perfect example of why it should be is Mississippi, it is the most religious state and just so also happens to be the poorest state in the U.S.. I don't really believe in God, so don't tell Jesus take the wheel when it comes to running our country. If prayers do get answered, there are those that don't get answered. So why are you going to risk everything on a possibility when you yourself can change it?

 

[alanahraefan]

Atheism is a delusion.

That's interesting, 'cause I've always felt that any religion that states that there's a giant invisible man who just suddenly made everything to be just as delusional, if not more so, if you subscribe to the idea of Occam's Razor.

 

[DOA82]

All I had to do was see the thread title to know who the OP would be.

Here we go again?

 

[Mariahxxx]

how can atheism be a religion when it's very definition is the lack of belief in religion??????? and I posted a specific incident that could be discussed. there was no rant no agenda other than to discuss the posting of religious articles on government property with tax payer money.

and BC you dismiss it as being just a courthouse and not congress so that doesn't count then as government???

I absolutely disagree that atheism is a religion, and I do not think that there should be ANY monuments of ANY type on government property with or without the use of taxpayer money. What is the purpose? The entire atheist movement is to be void of religious infection.

It's a valid discussion topic, but if you want to generalize then that's fine. I just think that you guys can't stand anyone that doesn't agree or want YOUR agenda to be everywhere possible, even if it defies the very core of our country's constitution.

 

[Philbert]

That's interesting, 'cause I've always felt that any religion that states that there's a giant invisible man who just suddenly made everything to be just as delusional, if not more so, if you subscribe to the idea of Occam's Razor.

You, and many sub intelligent people, believe in a "Man in the Clouds", but that is not a specific description in anyone's Bible of religious writings.
But it gives you, Mariah, and your posse comfort to believe this is so, so that's nice.