The Big Lie

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
I looked back quite a ways and couldn't really find a good place to post this so i started a new thread. The Idea behind this might make you think. If so, don't blame me:


https://www.yahoo.com/news/still-won-t-admit-why-091320462.html
It would have worked in Trump’s Legacy, but here we are.

Very good article. This should be a required caution for all of us - left, right, and center: “we fall for fake news because it’s easier for us, socially or intellectually.”
 
I looked back quite a ways and couldn't really find a good place to post this so i started a new thread. The Idea behind this might make you think. If so, don't blame me:


https://www.yahoo.com/news/still-won-t-admit-why-091320462.html

I think the polls speak for themselves, a significant portion of america does not like where america is going, they see it and feel it and know the odds are against them - so now they are fighting back more than ever and organizing themselves like never before.

It's not about believing lies from the fake news or being lead astray by trump - it's about being lead by one of their own, a fascist a populist a bully, someone like them that believes that the ends justifies the means.

They don't have to or want to understand what words like fascism or populism or ideology or nazism or libertarianism or etc mean, they just want what they want and damn the rest - they don't have to or want to understand themselves, they don't have to or want to understand anything except that they fear and hate whatever is dissimilar to them.

It's about us against them - our way of life vs theirs, our party against theirs, our gang vs theirs.

Can't force or brainwash them to change because they won't change and refuse to learn.

Education will help over a long period of time, just like poplar opinions change over the centuries - but that is the time it will take to realize change.

Either they will get their way through force or votes, or not, but this problem is not going away - in fact it might get worse because they didn't win the election, that's how bullies are, they don't let reason interfere with their bullying.

If they had won they would be content in their oppressing others - the civil war only began because the South refused to listen to reason, this is no different, if the North allowed the South to rule there would have been no civil war.
 
I think the polls speak for themselves, a significant portion of america does not like where america is going, they see it and feel it and know the odds are against them - so now they are fighting back more than ever and organizing themselves like never before.

It's not about believing lies from the fake news or being lead astray by trump - it's about being lead by one of their own, a fascist a populist a bully, someone like them that believes that the ends justifies the means.

They don't have to or want to understand what words like fascism or populism or ideology or nazism or libertarianism or etc mean, they just want what they want and damn the rest - they don't have to or want to understand themselves, they don't have to or want to understand anything except that they fear and hate whatever is dissimilar to them.

It's about us against them - our way of life vs theirs, our party against theirs, our gang vs theirs.

Can't force or brainwash them to change because they won't change and refuse to learn.

Education will help over a long period of time, just like poplar opinions change over the centuries - but that is the time it will take to realize change.

Either they will get their way through force or votes, or not, but this problem is not going away - in fact it might get worse because they didn't win the election, that's how bullies are, they don't let reason interfere with their bullying.

If they had won they would be content in their oppressing others - the civil war only began because the South refused to listen to reason, this is no different, if the North allowed the South to rule there would have been no civil war.
I don't that's entirely true at least in the sense that a lot of them really do believe that stuff. If they didn't then why not just be more honest about it? There is too much rationalizing by people to believe they don't care about lies or being lead astray. It's not like you see too many of them that say, "Yeah, I know all that stuff is bullshit, but I don't care. I just want my side to win." There is too many excuses being made by people to believe it's not at least in large part about believing the lies.
 

John_8581

FreeOnes Lifetime Member
I don't that's entirely true at least in the sense that a lot of them really do believe that stuff. If they didn't then why not just be more honest about it? There is too much rationalizing by people to believe they don't care about lies or being lead astray. It's not like you see too many of them that say, "Yeah, I know all that stuff is bullshit, but I don't care. I just want my side to win." There is too many excuses being made by people to believe it's not at least in large part about believing the lies.
I bolded your comment. How could followers of Trump and the GQP (notice I used a Q here) be honest? If they have a Fascist President (Trump) and Johnson, Halsey, Cruz, Graham, McCarthy, Gaetz, Taylor-Green, etc. leading them and filling their heads with lies, half truths, misrepresentations, etc. No. The only way we get rid of this Despot / Dictator (your choice) and these GQP leaders is to not vote him and them into office in the first place.**

** (provided that Donald Trump Sr. is not incarcerated by the time November 5, 2024 comes around. Serving a nice fat twenty-five year jail term for tax fraud, wire fraud, etc, etc, etc.)


Remember January 6, 2021 -- Never Again.

They weren't tourists visiting the Capitol as the GQP wants you to believe.
 
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Theopolis Q. Hossenffer

I am in America, not of it.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/573629-trump-demands-abbott-back-election-audit-in-texas

Trump is really doubling down on the Big Lie. He wants to audit a state he won by 5.5 points? Not really. I think he wants to make sure they can steal the 2024 election.
And I still fear that they will. Americans are not willing to believe and /or invest the time and energy to stop it. Need to watch the Super Bowl or some such shit. Or maybe go out with my friends for a beer, or see a movie. You know, the important things in life.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
Trump hollers back at the Wall Street Journal for claiming he lost Pennsylvania:
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/...ing-trump-letter-but-calls-his-claims-bananas

Let me hear you say, this shit is bananas
B-A-N-A-N-A-S

"We trust our readers to make up their own minds about his statement. And we think it’s news when an ex-President who may run in 2024 wrote what he did, even if (or perhaps especially if) his claims are bananas,”
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
It seems certain people in a few states sent fake election certificates to the National Archives. The odd part is actually putting evidence of the fraud into a public repository. What were they thinking? (Obviously they were not.)

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/10/jan-6-committee-ramps-up-state-level-investigation-526752
https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...groups-fake-letter-national-archives-1281966/
https://apnews.com/article/joe-bide...vestigations-8a0454f0a28fd3f5903fa3ab962f764b
 
The GOP needs to quit beating a dead horse and pick up an ear of cactus to sodomize the Democrats with at the midterms. Doesn't that seem more smarter 'n' stuff? Imagine the meme flinging in here after that hootenanny.
 
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