Everyone needs a foundation, By your parents not giving you one, you went down the wrong path. Let me Guess your parents are Liberal. But don't feel sorry for me. I made my choice as you did. I knew you were lesbian by the pics you showed on the first post you wrote. I do read alot of articles. I am sorry you made those bad decisions In your life.

Being educated liberates the mind from false notions that the Bible propagates. It's funny how your beloved Jesus tells you that only He can judge yet you generic Christians are judgemental of people who are intellectually liberated from Christian dogma.

In case you didn't know, Jesus Christ is a liberal so now you know. If you don't believe me, the proof can be seen here:

http://www.jesusisaliberal.org/
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
Woot? Man wtf I thought we where going to get raptured outta here I mean like this century....YOU PROMISED!

I never said that.

No, Christian is a date setter.

We will be raptured soon enough.
When ever that is you better been going with us.
So, repent now.

 

Rattrap

Doesn't feed trolls and would appreciate it if you
No, I didn't...
Yes, you did.

See what I did there? I employed as much evidence to back up my retort as you did. Can we be done being six years old now?

It fizzles out I just accept that is Will E. Just gave him a flaming when he says something outrageously offensive.......No point in actually trying to get him to embrace science and logic to the full for that would truly be a lost cause.

It certainly is. But it may not be for others.

I like true science.
Your "science" is a joke. Maybe you'll get it someday.

And yet it was the very science and its advancement that you're disparaging that brought to light its forgery. It just goes to show science in action and that science corrects its errors.

The fact that deniers are still bringing this up 60 years after the error was corrected just goes to show how weak their arguments really are.

There is a list put up by a religious organization listing retorts to science/atheism and such; I can't rightly for the life of me remember which organization or where you can find the list (it was mentioned in a book I read recently...likely The Greatest Show on Earth). The amusing aspect about this list is that it grows smaller and smaller as these retorts lose credibility to science. God gets smaller and smaller, and its refuge becomes more of a stretch to pursue.

& there are still people who wonder why I put Will on my ignore list...
It is frustrating to find such unshakeable delusion. Yet, our world is full of similar people and ignoring them is probably dangerous (not on a porn forum, mind; more like, I'm conditioning myself for dealing with them in real world situations).

Ignore the truth for now. When you die you will be judged by my God. ;)
:rofl::rolleyes::spin::laugh::rofl2::jester:
(see what I did there?)

And I'll spit on God for God's abject failures, and I probably won't be the first.

...and man this thread goes fast...
 

Rattrap

Doesn't feed trolls and would appreciate it if you
No, I didn't. You never have any evidence, you believe in your false religion of science falsely so-called.

You will fall on your face when you meet God for judgment.
I don't need any evidence; the burden of proof is on you.

Do you know why science isn't a religion? That's a rhetorical question. I know you don't.

Science, through the scientific method, is a method of critical thinking. Critical thinking allows revision and new information. Like BlueBalls mentioned, it's through this process that hoaxes are debunked. It's through this process that really any pragmatic knowledge ever gained by mankind, has been. Religion, on the other hand, is a method of believing with nothing to justify that belief. Faith is, nearly by definition, baseless, unsupported.

An example, paraphrased from The Demon-haunted World by another great, Carl Sagan:
I have a dragon in my garage.

Can I see it, you ask?

No, it's invisible.

Can I hear it, then?

No, it makes no noise.

Can I use the latest in thermal heat scanning and laser-detection technology coupled with vibration sensors and Star Trek-esque scanning equipment to detect it?

No, it's undetectable in every possible way. Moreover, I've found this book about my dragon that's around 2000 years old. It says that if you don't worship it, it'll eat you. It's true, because it says so.​

My dragon is as credible and, indeed, meaningful as God. It just hasn't caught on as well yet.
 
There is a list put up by a religious organization listing retorts to science/atheism and such; I can't rightly for the life of me remember which organization or where you can find the list (it was mentioned in a book I read recently...likely The Greatest Show on Earth). The amusing aspect about this list is that it grows smaller and smaller as these retorts lose credibility to science. God gets smaller and smaller, and its refuge becomes more of a stretch to pursue.

Oh I can definitely believe that. When your fundamental understanding of the world around you comes from your particular interpretation of what an old book tells you happened there is no way your theories (if you are going to choose to separate them from what's currently known scientifically) are ever going to be given any credence when compared to what's currently being found and is already known within the scientific realm.

I have been meaning to read that book (although now I'll probably wait for the paperback edition). I much prefer Dawkins when he's discussing and explaining the current understanding of science as opposed to what his stance on religion is - even if that is a slight undertone throughout the majority of his work.
 

Rattrap

Doesn't feed trolls and would appreciate it if you
No, you and others say it's not true and yadda, yadda, the burden of proof is on you. :hatsoff:
Yes, I do. Because the evidence supports that conclusion. And you can say "no, no, no, you, you, you" all you like Will, but just as 2 + 2 = 4, the burden of proof is on you.

By your logic, my dragon exists until proven otherwise. So, prove it doesn't exist.

Do it.
 
No, you and others say it's not true and yadda, yadda, the burden of proof is on you. :hatsoff:

Now you're just doing what religious people have been doing for thousands of years when they realize their "logic" is failing, you shut down. You're showing the true nature of religion. Pick and choose what suits your need, ignore everything else and shut down and revert to circular logic when you feel attacked.
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
Yes, I do. Because the evidence supports that conclusion. And you can say "no, no, no, you, you, you" all you like Will, but just as 2 + 2 = 4, the burden of proof is on you.

By your logic, my dragon exists until proven otherwise. So, prove it doesn't exist.

Do it.

Puff the Magic Dragon is real in story books. :hatsoff:

Now you're just doing what religious people have been doing for thousands of years when they realize their "logic" is failing, you shut down. You're showing the true nature of religion. Pick and choose what suits your need, ignore everything else and shut down and revert to circular logic when you feel attacked.

Yeah, yeah. :tongue: :sleep:

Scoffers and mockers have been doing the same things for thousands of years, with circular "logic."

You only post two or three times a day.
Just to start or stir things up.

I doubt Mr know it all will get it someday. He's clueless.

Scoffers and mockers will never get it they are the deceived.


2 Peter 3:3-6 (KJV)
3: Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4: And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5: For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
 
Scoffers and mockers have been doing the same things for thousands of years, with circular "logic."

You only post two or three times a day.
Just to start or stir things up.



Scoffers and mockers will never get it they are the deceived.

The original post was not flaming, but that definitely is flaming.
 
Puff the Magic Dragon is real in story books. :hatsoff:



Yeah, yeah. :tongue: :sleep:

Scoffers and mockers have been doing the same things for thousands of years, with circular "logic."

You only post two or three times a day.
Just to start or stir things up.



Scoffers and mockers will never get it they are the deceived.


2 Peter 3:3-6 (KJV)
3: Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4: And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5: For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

Oh yea? Well how about:

Deuteronomy 25:11-12
If two men, a man and his countryman, are struggling together, and the wife of one comes near to deliver her husband from the hand of the one who is striking him, and puts out her hand and seizes his genitals, then you shall cut off her hand; you shall not show pity.

or


Leviticus 19:27
You shall not round off the side-growth of your heads nor harm the edges of your beard.
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
Oh yea? Well how about:

Deuteronomy 25:11-12
If two men, a man and his countryman, are struggling together, and the wife of one comes near to deliver her husband from the hand of the one who is striking him, and puts out her hand and seizes his genitals, then you shall cut off her hand; you shall not show pity.

or


Leviticus 19:27
You shall not round off the side-growth of your heads nor harm the edges of your beard.

Those are laws given to the Jews in another dispensation.


Deuteronomy 25:11-12 (KJV)
11: When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets:
12: Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her.
 
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