Terminator Salvation....
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It was way better then Terminator 3. It's worth seeing.
I liked it, Capricorn.Has anyone seen the movie? Joker? How did you like it?
I'm looking forward to seeing it but I have to wait till June 4th because it doesn't arrive in the cinemas here where I live earlier
I agree with the others that I felt it was better than T3 .... and this is coming from someone who really liked T3 (especially Kristanna!). But yeah, I would say check it out.
Saw it a couple days ago.
Anyone know where I can get my money back?
Anyone know where I can get my money back?
I love this movie so much that I went back to my dvd collections and watched the previous 3 and now I am looking for the first season of the Sarah Connor Chronicles. Yep I am a big Terminator fan, can't waith for the next one probably showing when they sent Kyle back or when the war is over. So much storylines and spin off from this franchise. I just wished they had showed more big time battles like they showed in the previous movies. Bale stole this franchise just like he did Batman.
I am the same way I love them all just not the way John was protrayed in T3 as such a wimp.
Now ATTENTION MOVIE SPOILER!! Bellow
Did John died at the end and they crafted his skin on Marcus Cyborg body?? I thought it was a heart transplant, kinda lost there. Because is that the case then Marcus is John Connor, oh boy what a crazy ass twist..
SPOILER ALERT
John gets a heart transplant, and Marcus is the donor. Who sacrifices himself to save John. However the idea of having John die and a machine continue to lead the resistance at the end which would have been Marcus with Connor's exterior is something that was talked about on the internet months ago, but Mcg explained in an interview that this wasnt the original ending that was intended.
"Connor dies, okay? He's dead," McG continues. "And Marcus offers his physical body, so Connor's exterior is put on top of his machine body. It looks like Connor, but it's really Marcus underneath. And all of the characters we care about (Kyle Reese, Connor's wife Kate, etc.) are brought into the room to see him and they think it's Connor. And Connor gets up and then there's a small flicker of red in his eyes and he shoots Kate, he shoots Kyle, he shoots everybody in the room. Fade to black. End of movie. Skynet wins. F--- you!"
http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2009...+shocking,+bummer+of+an+ending+you+didn't+see!
tartanterrier
Is somewhere outhere.
I thought T2 was the best out of the 3.But i'm looking forward to seeing T4
Didn't know he wrote the script. THAT'S where this film falls flat, ooh we've got another terminator that learns what it means to be human, ooh we've got snake robot things like in The Matrix, ooh we've got a big robot like in Transformers, ooh we've got chase scenes just like in Mad Max, ooh we've got another finale set in an industrial foundry/factory style complex, ooh it all ends with NO DEVELOPMENT OF THE MYTHOLOGY WHATSOEVER!! The whole point of this movie is to set up further movies to make money.
well, the ending was allready given away, so do I need to post SPOILER WARNING? guess I just did. Ok then.
So basically the plot of this movie is that the rebels capture the Deathstar...er, I mean Skynet plans and figure out it's weakness. But that was all part of the plan and they are really being led into a trap. (hey, at least there wasn't any fucking ewoks.)
We are clearly shown the kind of subterfuge tactics that a machine mind would come up with. That fits nicely into my theory that Skynet is manipulating John Connor.
-Skynet knows that Kyle Reese is Connor's father, otherwise there is no point in making him target number 1 because he is just some kid that is otherwise inconsequential to the rebellion at this point.
-Skynet does not intend to kill Reese, but wants him to fulfill his destiny. If they wanted him dead, then they would have just killed him as soon as he was captured. Marcus was successful in convincing Connor to lead the rescue mission so it doesn't make any difference if Reese was alive or dead at that point because Connor would have gone anyway and he wouldn't have known until he got there.
-Skynet does not want to kill John Connor in the past. Once again, if they did, all they would have to do was kill Reese and then Connor would never have been born.
-Skynet may or may not want to kill Connor in the present. (See above.) It is possible that they intended to kill Connor by leading him to the Terminator factory. Like I said before, it really doesn't matter if they kill John Connor in the present or not, a sentiment that was even voiced by Sarah Connor- and we know that they kill him later on in the future and the war has not ended yet, according to T3. It is more likely that they let him destroy the factory to gain further trust in Marcus for the purpose of getting Connor to trust and depend on the machines.
Think about what Skynet accomplishes in this movie by the things that they do:
-John Connor meets Kyle Reese. If not for these events then they would not have found each other.
-John Connor becomes the leader of the rebellion. Both of these factors lead directly to his time-travel activities that would not have happened if Skynet hadn't done those things.
Another thing to keep in mind in this whole thing is that there isn't supposed to be any John Connor. In the *original* time line he never existed. We really don't know how many times the time-line has been altered; in the original time-line maybe Judgment Day never happened either.
Spleen
Banned?
I disagree, I don't think the story was it's downfall. Ok, some parts were too over the top, like the snakes and the fucking submarine (and I really want to know how Bale got on that thing), but the story had more layers than I thought it would. It was a very smart move adding Marcus as a main character, without his journey the movie would be a total waste of time.
I agree that Marcus was the best thing in it, but even his story arc was just a slight rejigging of the whole man/machine thing we had seen in T2 with Arnie as the good terminator "I know now why you cry, but it is something I can never do!" etc. I really can only see one reason for making this movie, to justify more tiresome sequels & make more money. That's the only layer! The movie was hampered by the fact that we all know what happens in the future, & we don't need another trilogy to get us to the moment that kick starts events of the original, namely Reese going back in time after the terminator has been sent to kill Sarah Connor. We just need one movie, correction, we need one GOOD movie!
Yep, it started well. Then went rapidly downhill.
Violator79
Take a Hit, Spunker!
I personally like the movie a lot! I downloaded a copy and it was good. It's not as good as T2, but it's sure are shit a lot better than T3.
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