St. Louis is America's Most Dangerous City

I never thought I'd be typing up an actual post on this site, but this topic interests me to no end.

I've lived in Saint Louis my entire life, in Baden, North City to be exact. Those who have lived in Saint Louis know North City as a place to be avoided, but the reasons as to why Saint Louis City is the way it is are complex and intricate.

For one, let me say something that should be obvious to anyone who has ever stepped foot in Saint Louis -- Saint Louis has dozens and dozens of counties and districts around it (over 91), none of which are actually considered Saint Louis on pen and paper. Saint Louis itself is an incredibly small city, but you wouldn't know it driving through; counties like Jennings and Florissant are right next to Saint Louis City homes. For those that might not understand, I keep repeating "Saint Louis City" because Saint Louis City is the only part of "Saint Louis" that actually belongs to Saint Louis. It's a shame I even have to call Saint Louis, Saint Louis City, but it's the only way anyone's going to know what I'm talking about. The Gateway Arch, the Delmar Loop, Forest Park -- all of it belongs to Saint Louis City, and don't let anyone tell you anything different. I don't know the exact history, but years ago Saint Louis was prohibited from buying property outside of its own city limits, something that remains in place to this day, and this is part of the reason why Saint Louis isn't nearly as large, or productive, as other cities. You see, St. Charles and Normandy voters (as well as countless others) didn't want to be part of Saint Louis, and still don't, even though they're a stone's throw away. People in these counties elect their own officials, vote on their own policies and most importantly, they pay their own taxes. The tax money spent in these counties stays in these counties, even though a large portion of these county dwellers work in Saint Louis. So where does the money earned in Saint Louis go? You guessed it, directly back to the counties, where they could give a good goddamn about what goes on in the city they claim to live in. Apparently, there's far too much crime for county folk to merge with Saint Louis City, and it sickens me to know that the very crime they're afraid of is partly due to the fact that they're bleeding the city dry. It won't be long before more people live outside of Saint Louis than in it (if that isn't true already) and cities without people living in them aren't quite cities at all; they're empty streets and dark alleys where shootings and rapes happen, kind of like Saint Louis.

But that's not even half of it. In addition to being one of the most scattered cities in the United States, Saint Louis also has the pleasure of being one of the most racially and politically divided cities in the country. It's not just crime county folk want to hide from, that would be far too simple, it's "black people" in general. There, I said it. Now no one else has to. I could talk about race relations all day, but I've spent far too much time and energy typing up this post already. As a multiracial man, I've seen things from both sides, and none of it is pretty. "Blacks" blame "whites," "whites" blame "blacks" -- none of it helps.

I'm sick of typing this post, and I haven't even made a case for all the points I wanted to make. Take everything I wrote up for what you will. I'm sick of people bad mouthing the city I was born in just because they're too busy to stop and look around. Saint Louis doesn't have an identity, its residents have no culture of their own. Think about it, what do you think of when you think "Saint Louis?" The Arch? Get the fuck out of here, what else? Thought so.

The city is dead, and we killed it. WE killed it.

Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to go jack off.
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
Good for them! They haven't had a championship since the 1999 season and they deserve some recognition for greatness.
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
I never thought I'd be typing up an actual post on this site, but this topic interests me to no end.

I've lived in Saint Louis my entire life, in Baden, North City to be exact. Those who have lived in Saint Louis know North City as a place to be avoided, but the reasons as to why Saint Louis City is the way it is are complex and intricate.

For one, let me say something that should be obvious to anyone who has ever stepped foot in Saint Louis -- Saint Louis has dozens and dozens of counties and districts around it (over 91), none of which are actually considered Saint Louis on pen and paper. Saint Louis itself is an incredibly small city, but you wouldn't know it driving through; counties like Jennings and Florissant are right next to Saint Louis City homes. For those that might not understand, I keep repeating "Saint Louis City" because Saint Louis City is the only part of "Saint Louis" that actually belongs to Saint Louis. It's a shame I even have to call Saint Louis, Saint Louis City, but it's the only way anyone's going to know what I'm talking about. The Gateway Arch, the Delmar Loop, Forest Park -- all of it belongs to Saint Louis City, and don't let anyone tell you anything different. I don't know the exact history, but years ago Saint Louis was prohibited from buying property outside of its own city limits, something that remains in place to this day, and this is part of the reason why Saint Louis isn't nearly as large, or productive, as other cities. You see, St. Charles and Normandy voters (as well as countless others) didn't want to be part of Saint Louis, and still don't, even though they're a stone's throw away. People in these counties elect their own officials, vote on their own policies and most importantly, they pay their own taxes. The tax money spent in these counties stays in these counties, even though a large portion of these county dwellers work in Saint Louis. So where does the money earned in Saint Louis go? You guessed it, directly back to the counties, where they could give a good goddamn about what goes on in the city they claim to live in. Apparently, there's far too much crime for county folk to merge with Saint Louis City, and it sickens me to know that the very crime they're afraid of is partly due to the fact that they're bleeding the city dry. It won't be long before more people live outside of Saint Louis than in it (if that isn't true already) and cities without people living in them aren't quite cities at all; they're empty streets and dark alleys where shootings and rapes happen, kind of like Saint Louis.

But that's not even half of it. In addition to being one of the most scattered cities in the United States, Saint Louis also has the pleasure of being one of the most racially and politically divided cities in the country. It's not just crime county folk want to hide from, that would be far too simple, it's "black people" in general. There, I said it. Now no one else has to. I could talk about race relations all day, but I've spent far too much time and energy typing up this post already. As a multiracial man, I've seen things from both sides, and none of it is pretty. "Blacks" blame "whites," "whites" blame "blacks" -- none of it helps.

I'm sick of typing this post, and I haven't even made a case for all the points I wanted to make. Take everything I wrote up for what you will. I'm sick of people bad mouthing the city I was born in just because they're too busy to stop and look around. Saint Louis doesn't have an identity, its residents have no culture of their own. Think about it, what do you think of when you think "Saint Louis?" The Arch? Get the fuck out of here, what else? Thought so.

The city is dead, and we killed it. WE killed it.

Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to go jack off.

I grew up in the St. Louis metro area and I agree with much of what you said except for the lack of identity. If your take the city by itself and eliminate St. Louis county and all the of communities that make it up, it is indeed a gruesome situation. However, the suburban towns are as typically middle-class (some areas like Ladue, Chesterfield etc are very affluent actually) as you would find in any major metro area in the nation. However, having lived down south for many years where everyone is from someplace else, the is a very distinct sense of community as a whole for the St. Louis metro area that does indeed give it a very strong and provincial identity. I see it still to this day when I go back to visit. You just don't see that type of community in cities of the new south like Houston. If you've been a lifelong resident of St. Louis, you probably aren't real cognizant of it but if you move away like I did it becomes really obvious. Just a matter of perspective.

Oh...And when I think about St. Louis, I don't think of the Arch....I think of the Cardinals and so would just about any other person from that area. As you know, it ain't just a sport there, it's a religion.

I do agree with you about the racial tensions in that area however. Much worse than down south. Really angry, arrogant and militant blacks and really bigoted, hateful and pissed-off white folk don't make for a very good mixture. Sadly, I don't see things getting better there. :(

Good for them! They haven't had a championship since the 1999 season and they deserve some recognition for greatness.

Hell you say! The Cardinals won the world series in 2006 and the Rams won the Super Bowl in 2001.
 
What the Hell is with the Hannibal lechter mask, or is that his grill?

You saw that correctly, it's a mask. Why he wears it, I'll never know, but all the more reason to stay the fuck out of East St. Louis I suppose.
 
Visit Flint or Lansing and you will see how a hell it can be at late night. I did visit with my cousins some pals living in those places a while ago. When we went there, we were carrying guns because the car jacking/homicide rate was alarming and it still is.
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
Hell you say! The Cardinals won the world series in 2006 and the Rams won the Super Bowl in 2001.

I haven't cared about baseball since the strike in 95' or whatever year that was and the Rams just plain suck. IN YOUR FACE, REASONABLE MEASURED RESPONSES!
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
^
In the spirit of this thread and n commemoration of the recent honor bestowed upon the Gateway to the West (plus being that I am originally from St. Louis), I'll go ahead and give you an UNREASONABLE UNMEASURED RESPONSE then, johnny:

1) Blow it out your ass
2) Put your hands in the air and hand over your wallet

:D
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
Until they match the crime rate in Rio, or any other major international city, I don't think we should crown a national champion. Oooh! How 'bout a World Cup of violent crime? MEXICO CITY REPRESENT!
 
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