PlasmaTwa2
The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
Well I'd certainly hope not, considering Molton is in England.
Sports Teams That Should Just Go Away
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Well I'd certainly hope not, considering Molton is in England.
Professional sports teams trying to get tax-payer funded stadiums is one of the biggest rip offs there are. It's made even worse by the fact a lot of teams try to shamelessly hold a city hostage by threatening to move. New stadiums don't really help bring in fans past the point the new car smell wears off of it, and it definitely doesn't help teams win. The only real thing, outside of having a fan base with the loyalty the Chicago Cubs or Green Bay Packers have, that can get more revenue and more people to watch and attend games is to win more. Winning correlates better with fan attendance than pretty much anything else. It also doesn't involve trying to extort tax payer money on such an unnecessary thing for the benefit of a few, that could be paid for by teams themselves that rake in millions a year.
The tax payers spend on them is often never made back, and even then it's made back by relatively few people. The whole thing about bringing in jobs or improving an are is just feel good fluff that doesn't measure with the reality of what usually happens with them.
I believe it's more complicated then that. I know friends personally who have a job at the new arena we have for our NHL team. It also forces rich SOBs to pay $20 a drink on Club which is also taxed. Local business's love it and that makes further tax. New businesses have also moved in. I also think some of the deals are worked out where the owner pays back over time?
Most people that end up paying the tax never see any real benefit from them. For every new stadium deal that breaks even or seems alright there are multiple horror stories of ones that are just a money sink on a shiny new object when the previous one worked almost perfectly fine. If the owners feel they can pay the money back in time then they should just as easily be able to save up and just pay for it themselves.
PlasmaTwa2
The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
I'm not entirely sure where the money for Labatt Field would have come from. The reason Montreal is opposed to any kind of public funding is likely due to the 1976 Olympics and so obviously it is hard to speculate whether or not they would have put up some of the money for the Expos because they were still paying the Olympics off at the time. I do think that it was the management that doomed the team more than anything else. The Expos were probably the worst run team in MLB history. Jeffery Loria is without a doubt the worst owner I think I have ever heard about. The man managed to kill what was once an incredibly popular sport in Canada and Quebec. Talk to anyone who lives in Quebec and they will most likely tell you that they loved the Expos, but they just didn't want to put up the money for a team that was never going to be a winner and was seemingly always under threat of relocation. If the team had some success on the field, they would most likely still be around. If the 1994 season hadn't been shortened, the Expos would have won the World Series and would be playing in a brand new ballpark right now.
Vlad The Impaler
Power Slave
Nice try Plas. They would've made it to the World Series and subsequently lost to the Don Mattingly lead Yankees!
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PlasmaTwa2
The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
Keep dreaming. That Simpsons episode was always going to be Mattingly's highest career moment. If I was a conspiracy theorist I would say MLB brought on the strike because the American teams couldn't stand three years of Canadian World Champions. But that's just silly. :tongue:
Vlad The Impaler
Power Slave
Ha ha ha. Seriously though, I was looking forward to that series. They were both head & shoulders above the rest of the league that year.
My best friend growing up loved Don Mattingly. Big hitter. Biiiiig time hitter. He also liked Daryl Strawberry as well when he was tearing it up with the Dodgers. Had all the rookie cards.
Watch out.
I can think of at least two members that are about to go for your jugular. There's always wishfull thinking though...I mean, there is the Grizzlies blueprint. :tongue:
alexpnz
Lord Dipstick
Watch out.
Actually, The Grizzlies ARE a better example......it's just that I "forgot" about them! :rofl:
Vlad The Impaler
Power Slave
Yeah, It's a shame someone like Don Mattingly can't get into the hall of fame. Not enough time in they say. Damn back gave out on him.
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