So who owns the rain ......water ?

Facetious

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This story isn't exactly hot off the press but I thought that it would be interesting to debate. :)
Capturing rain may be one of humanity's most ancient methods of acquiring water, but now it's coming back in vogue. Rather than press their luck with drought, conservation-conscious homeowners are setting up rudimentary rain barrels and elaborate rainwater storage systems to catch precipitation for nondrinking purposes, such as watering their lawns. But while rainwater may seem like a global common, nowadays it depends on where you live: By capturing rainwater, some homeowners are breaking the law. This has put city and state governments in an awkward position—smack in the middle of competing water users and advocates, often from within their own agencies, of conserving water to protect supplies

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I think that the government needs to butt out as usual. :D

People just need to know that they should have a container with a lid to prevent mosquito infestation.
 

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This story isn't exactly hot off the press but I thought that it would be interesting to debate. :)


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I think that the government needs to butt out as usual. :D

People just need to know that they should have a container with a lid to prevent mosquito infestation.

Nothing like stangnat water in the hot summer tolet mosquito's breed. But not a bad idea we as humans have done this for centuries.
 
By capturing rainwater, some homeowners are breaking the law.

:wtf: April Fools?? So, one cannot even be a good citizen/environmentalist anymore? Out comes the hose :mad:
 
I think it is a bigger problem out west, particularly in the Colorado River basin. Where does my right to capture the rain end, when I am denying water to the ranchers, farmers, and cities down stream from me?



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More dumb ass government involvement.

Oh shame on me for using rain water for whatever purpose. Next thing you know there will be regulated barrels to use and a tax on rain water.
 
For it is I who owns the rain.

That's correct I the great Bob The Thundererer who owns that sweet, sweet elixor. That bringer of life. That juice that is all that is good and holy! Your precious rain water........

Bahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!





Bow down and kneel puney Earthlings before my almighty greatness!
 

jasonk282

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For it is I who owns the rain.

That's correct I the great Bob The Thundererer.

Bahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!





Bow down and kneel puney Earthling before my almighty greatness!

:bowdown:I'm not worthy
 

Facetious

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Hey Bob the Thundererer! Think fast!

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Enjoy MY Golden Rain!

Yea, BøB ! and that's from :

quote:Honoghr (pronounced /'hɑnoˌgɚ/) the homeworld of the Noghri, near Kessel. Seven planets orbited the Honoghr sun, from tiny Logru with its oceans of boiling lava, to distant Kuthul, the frozen giant. Of these seven worlds, it was the fourth planet that was blessed with life !!!!!! :pimpdaddy:
 
More dumb ass government involvement.

Oh shame on me for using rain water for whatever purpose. Next thing you know there will be regulated barrels to use and a tax on rain water.

Oh, you great, great man!! You made me see!! I have been blinded by our regulated barrels and our tax on collecting rain water!!!
Would I have known, that I have every right to overthrow our German government over my precious, precious rain water, I would have overthrown that "dumb ass government" a long time ago!! I always thought, that the land I own belongs to the country I live in and so does the rain that falls on it! But now.....NOW....I will collect all the rain water I can and nobody will stop me!!!! I will rule this land of mine with a rain-water-greedy fist!!! MUAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!


But seriously, dude, where is your problem? We have DIN-sized barrels and a rain water tax (on collecting rain water) for I don't know how long and nobody here is making a fuzz. The rain water belongs to everyone and if I have to be so greedy as to collect it for my own private purposes, then I'll have to pay a tax for that. Or maybe the next time I have to call the police, I'll phone the IRS first and rant about the the taxes. Let everyone else pay the police, I want mine for free.
 

Facetious

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But seriously, dude, where is your problem? We have DIN-sized barrels and a rain water tax (on collecting rain water) for I don't know how long and nobody here is making a fuzz. The rain water belongs to everyone and if I have to be so greedy as to collect it for my own private purposes, then I'll have to pay a tax for that. Or maybe the next time I have to call the police, I'll phone the IRS first and rant about the the taxes. Let everyone else pay the police, I want mine for free.

You're a puritanical collectivist are you ? Aren't there certain days (arbitrarily decided) when your may or may not fire up a gas grill Bar B Que in Germany ? or does that include all of the Euro Union ? And don't they (the almighty authorities) fly around in aircraft to make certain that everybody is following the "rules"?

Just think what it's going to be like in 10 -20 years :eek:



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You're a puritanical collectivist are you ? Aren't there certain days (arbitrarily decided) when your may or may not fire up a gas grill Bar B Que in Germany ? or does that include all of the Euro Union ? And don't they (the almighty authorities) fly around in aircraft to make certain that everybody is following the "rules"?

Just think what it's going to be like in 10 -20 years :eek:

Hmmm, not quite sure where you're kidding and where you're being serious, but I'm definitely not a puritanical collectivist in the sense you see the term "collectivist". From what I understand, for most Americans "collectivism" equals either "communism" or "national socialism", which is a grave misunderstanding of the word "collectivism". ;)
Things like "common good before self-interest" or "property/title obligates" are part of our Basic Constitutional Law, but that doesn't make us "socialist" or "communist". Far from it. In the last elections to the Bundestag, every party that was only a cunthair to the left was kicked to the curb, so to speak.
I think a lot of Germans believe that there is a "greater good" and that doesn't necessarily mean "god". But there are a lot of Americans who think this way, too, I'd say. I'd say the big difference is the thought of "fairness" and "equality". When I'm being too greedy or too reckless or too selfish, the others who feel fleeced/damnified will start being greedy, reckless, selfish. And over the long haul, that's not a healthy way to run a community. So, most of the time, we rather gravitate towards harmony. That's my assessment at least.

Days when you're not allowed to make BBQ? I never actually heard of that. We're one of the few middle European countries with Burger King, because an open grill is always welcome here. And the state I live in and my neighboring state are well-known for having a "healthy" BBQ culture. We even have a word for handling a (swinging) grill: "schwenken". And some say you're not a real man if you don't know how to "schwenk". ;)

But the thing with the aircrafts.... hmm... that would explain the vast amount of air traffic every day.... :D
 
In rural areas or areas with plenty of water it probably doesn't matter how people get their water, and something like that would be beyond unreasonable. In an area where they just funnel rainwater down some drain it would also be stupid to limit how people use it. However, in a densely packed city where rainwater is a major source of drinking water or any other type of water for people and where water is scarce I can see how regulating it might be necessary. If one person takes a lot for himself that would imply that he's taking it from other people somewhere else in the area that no longer have it for use. In almost jurisdiction I have ever heard of natural sources of water are considered a public commodity and belong to the public.
 
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