in a clear cut serious sex crime with solid evidence i'd say first offense-castration, second offense-death...how easy rapists get treated most of the time sickens me...that said, cases would have to be made stronger with REAL evidence to avoid vindictive, despicable women from making claims and false accusations about someone they dislike to get him killed, as has been known to happen...by serious i mean legitimate rape (violent, drug-induced, forced etc...not statutory as often times the younger one is plenty willing) :2 cents:
should we castrate sex offenders?!?!
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meesterperfect
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it depends on the seriousness of the crime.
its all serious but some stuff is worse than others.
just gotta lock them up.
or :
its all serious but some stuff is worse than others.
just gotta lock them up.
or :
Off with their Heads!
PirateKing
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"Sex offenders" is too broad. You can be put on the put on the sex offenders registry just by pissing in public or streaking. Jim Morrison for example.
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emceeemcee
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Also, I think it's arrogant to say that it's proven these people can't be rehabilitated. Just because we haven't been able to do it yet doesn't mean it's not possible.
To say that it's impossible assumes that we;
a) have exhausted all possibilities and know everything there is to know about rehabilition
b) invest enough resources into rehabilitating inmates
To say that it's impossible assumes that we;
a) have exhausted all possibilities and know everything there is to know about rehabilition
b) invest enough resources into rehabilitating inmates
No, I dont think castration is right. That would leave them to continue to be a drain on society. Away with them in on shot and then 1. Tax payers wont have to keep them 2. they cant hurt anymore.
vodkazvictim
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This. Check out the statistics. It's shocking to think that we call ourselves a civilised society.
Supafly
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Well the great thing about grannies is a ) her arse is really loose, so no problems with anal and b ) the gums feel real special on your dick, nothing like those barely legal bitches :elaugh:
I'm all for chemical castration. Physical castration is a level of magnitude beyond what the state should be able to forcibly do to those who live within it in my opinion. It's barbaric to me. I would feel the same way if thieves were required to have their hands removed once they've passed a certain level of convictions.
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but by far, the most important contribution thus far,
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...but by far, the most important contribution thus far,
thank god, real genuine input.
Well those would be merely my words looking at the situation practically. What a theoretical practice of it should say about our justice system is that we don't give special protection for some criminals just because the crimes they commit might enrage others.
emceeemcee
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Prison systems are supposed to have a duty of care to all inmates. If we throw some into a situation knowing full well they will be mauled alive where others wouldn't be, then we are giving special treatment to some and not others.
:2 cents:
Technically inmates are protected by the guards there and no one is sent there to be mauled alive. But that doesn't stop it from happening nor does it stop us from sending people there who for one reason or another end up being victimized.
Prisons and jails are not nice places. They're unsafe because of the nature of their populations.
I made a statement about what should happen but I don't know what will happen if they're sent to do their terms in general populations. I know what won't happen if they don't commit crimes..they won't have to worry about it because they won't go to jail.
emceeemcee
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after reading jbs173_1972's post I think we can completely dismiss any suggestion that pedo's are beyond rehab
If it is true that they are driven by hate and the desire to hurt as he says, then they can be rehabilitated. Violent, angry people can cultivate compassion. It happens. Just because western psychologists and psychiatrists can't do it doesn't mean it's impossible, it just means they aren't as knowledgeable about the human mind as they like to believe they are.
Treating western psychology/psychiatry as if it were the best thing to address human behavioural disorders with and using it as the only metric for determining whether or not rehab is successful (or even possible) is arrogant and a mistake. It's a field of science which is in it's infancy, it's constantly evolving and it clearly has a lot to learn from other disciplines.
If it is true that they are driven by hate and the desire to hurt as he says, then they can be rehabilitated. Violent, angry people can cultivate compassion. It happens. Just because western psychologists and psychiatrists can't do it doesn't mean it's impossible, it just means they aren't as knowledgeable about the human mind as they like to believe they are.
Treating western psychology/psychiatry as if it were the best thing to address human behavioural disorders with and using it as the only metric for determining whether or not rehab is successful (or even possible) is arrogant and a mistake. It's a field of science which is in it's infancy, it's constantly evolving and it clearly has a lot to learn from other disciplines.
emceeemcee
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Clearly some are more at risk though.
If you throw some manger in with the sharks knowing full well there is greater chance he'll be shredded than your average robber would then I don't see how the jailers can abdicate responsibility on the basis of 'this is prison, shit happens'
That is effectively using a form of capitol punishment without having the permission to do so.
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