Should I drop out of college?

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Aight, as ya'll know I couldnt get a job for ages. Then I got 2 writing jobs which is great. Except I started a PhD concurrently, which is cool and all but I cant be bothered with it.

I could take 4 years and work really slowly towards a Mphil (lesser research degree) ore just pack it in.

Advice?

IIRC, you were a foreign relations and history major, would that be correct?

If correct, it would seem to me that a foreign relations type of degree would be essential in todays job market, are you inflexible about relocation?

Anyway, I'd cut it off and be proud of your current achievements. The older you get the faster the years pass, before you know it, you'll be forty years old . . . I know, you've heard it all before but it's the damned truth!
Go out and live the rest of your life as an independent man!
Sever the tethers! Time is a tickin away! :nanner:
 

xfire

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All a doctorate will get you is tenure (eventually) at a university.
 
All a doctorate will get you is tenure (eventually) at a university.

Plus loads of women :D Hold on doesn't Dirk have a PhD or did I just imagine it :dunno:
 

Supafly

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Sarte would say that you've made your decision and are simply seeking that we justify it.
:frenchman

... and he would ne right.

I can only add my two cents:

In retrospective, I should have pushed harder and go to university and get a degree.

Jobs are WAY better for people who have that.
 
In retrospective, I should have pushed harder and go to university and get a degree.

Jobs are WAY better for people who have that.

They were once but not any more. Going uni now in the uk will put you probably over £10k in debt (just course fees) with no guarantee you'll get a job afterwards, many now go into teaching as they can't get a job in the field they studied in.
 
IIRC, you were a foreign relations and history major, would that be correct?

If correct, it would seem to me that a foreign relations type of degree would be essential in todays job market, are you inflexible about relocation?

Anyway, I'd cut it off and be proud of your current achievements. The older you get the faster the years pass, before you know it, you'll be forty years old . . . I know, you've heard it all before but it's the damned truth!
Go out and live the rest of your life as an independent man!
Sever the tethers! Time is a tickin away! :nanner:

Good memory man. This was my POV, I'm 26 now (soon 27) and will be a student until I am 31 if I see a PhD to its completion. Maybe I should call it a day at a MA, travel (to Latin America) and have lots and lots of dirty, dirty sex. :cool:

But on the flip side, more degrees means a better job later?
 

John_8581

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I already have a BA and a MA.

You have enough educational skills. I would leave school to seek a position. Remember, it will be a like full time job (to devote the time, and effort, etc.) to get a good position. Work on your resume, and your networking skills, and references. Try some employment agencies, and seek advice of a head hunter. Set you sights high. However, if the money's off, take the position, if the job feels right. Eventually the salary that you are requesting will come.

Don't they have intern post graduate positions that are considered "unpaid" at the university? If so, do that for awhile. Maybe it will lead to working in the private sector full time eventually.
 
Good memory man. This was my POV, I'm 26 now (soon 27) and will be a student until I am 31 if I see a PhD to its completion. Maybe I should call it a day at a MA, travel (to Latin America) and have lots and lots of dirty, dirty sex. :cool:

But on the flip side, more degrees means a better job later?

You'll be 31 anyway. Never pass up an opportunity to accomplish things in life. Time is one of the things we will all run out of one day. So invest it wisely..you will be surprised how fast time flies. If you're debating it...get your PhD as the bigger mistake would be stopping now then to realize you should have decided differently later. It will position you for a better 'career' not job...Jobs are what you make of them irrespective of how you've prepared yourself.

In closing, find 3 people who regret getting their PhD. I'll bet you can find hundreds or more who regret not getting it when they had the opportunity.
 
I don't know what you are studying, but you should look at it objectively. Is getting the more advanced degree going to significantly raise your future pay for what you are studying to make up for the lost time of not working and for the extra cost of getting that degree and then some significantly more? Is getting the more advanced degree even going to significantly increase your chances of getting a job in the first place to overcome you not working during that time and the lost money from it? If the answer to those questions is yes it might be worth it. If it is no then it's nothing but a waste of time and resources unless you really just love having that degree for no other reason than the simple fact of possessing it. None of this even takes into account other factors like how you personally feel about sitting through more schooling, and how you feel about other things you could be doing and what your priorities are between them and continuing to go to school.
 
If you started, you should finish. If you stop now, it's likely that you will never go back to finish. I have been sitting on the notion of starting on my doctorate for five years now.
 
Yeah I have opted to stick with it for now, at least thru to Mphil level (3 years). I should spend my 2nd year in the USA, so see some of ya'll then.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
It would be against my upbringing to suggest that anyone drop out of school. But at the same time, you probably should look closely at why you're pursuing a PhD. I don't agree that the only reason for pursuing a degree (of any type) is just to increase your earning potential. Just like I don't believe you should choose a career based solely on its earning potential. In my mother's day, even high school students read the classics and learned Latin. Some day (probably when I retire), I hope to go back to school JUST to learn Latin and ancient Greco-Roman history.

In the industries and fields I've worked in, a PhD wouldn't have done much for me financially. I do wish that I'd gone for the JD/MBA combo when I got my MBA though. In some fields, a PhD is even considered a hinderance, because some companies see a person who has spent a good part of their education on theory and not enough on practical, real world situations. But in whatever fields you may be considering, maybe a PhD would increase your earning potential. Are you considering teaching at some point? Or maybe you'd pursue a career with the UN or even the *gasp* CIA. It's outside of my area of knowledge, but I'm sure there are companies and fields (outside of academia) which would value a PhD.

But in the end, I believe that there's no sin in seeking knowledge purely for the sake of gaining knowledge. Knowledge is the one and only thing that no one will ever be able to take away from you.

Good luck! :hatsoff:
 

emceeemcee

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Reasons to drop out of college:


-You are hoping to get a sturdy, well paid job at the end of it
-You want letters after your name and the piece of paper to hang on the wall
-You don't know what else to do
-You'll feel like a failure if you don't finish it (ie other people will be 'dissappointed' with you and you couldn't bare that)



if you're not in it for the love then drop the fuck out! Plenty of other important learning experiences to be had
 
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