SECRET VIDEO: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters

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During a private fundraiser earlier this year, Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney told a small group of wealthy contributors what he truly thinks of all the voters who support President Barack Obama. He dismissed these Americans as freeloaders who pay no taxes, who don't assume responsibility for their lives, and who think government should take care of them. Fielding a question from a donor about how he could triumph in November, Romney replied:

There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax.

Romney went on: "[M]y job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."



And people think Liberals are condescending snobs? Apparently Romney is not going to serve as president for all Americans. Though, is anyone really surprised that this is the way Romney views half the country? This just feeds the narrative of Romney being a privileged rich douchebag
 
Mitt, you are a dumb ass. You are running for POTUS and everyone has a camera on their phone.

As far as the comment itself, he is absolutely right. A lot of people don't want to hear this, but nobody owes you a damn thing. How did people survive the Great Depression? They hit the bricks and took any job that they could get. They busted their ass and did what it took to survive. How did people survive the Great Recession? They sat on their ass and waited for a government bailout. There is a high enough percentage of people living off of the government that it's a joke. If someone is disabled then help them. If someone just pumps out a *** once a year to get more food stamp money, tell them to get a job.

It doesn't really matter to me because I'm not voting for either one of these ass clown anyway. Just remember that when any politician is talking about jobs, the only one that they care about is the one that they have or the one that they are trying to get.
 
What is sad, and what he does not realize, is that many of those freeloaders relying off the government are actually his supporters. What is even sadder, those particular supporters have absolutely no idea how much Romney actually loathes them.
 
^Good point....

I honestly don't think that even politicians realize how many people are actually receiving entitlements and breaks from the government. Both parties have millions of followers that rely on the government for some level of support.

Consider taxes....Have you ever met someone who pays, say $5,500 in taxes over a years time, then when they prepare their 1040's at the beginning of the following year find that they get a $9,000 refund?

It's because they qualify for one or more government entitlement program that pays out at the time of filing. Earned Income Credit is probably the biggest kick back available to low and middle incomers....

I'm not knocking the program, I'm just trying to present an example of an entitlement program that members of all political parties welcome....
 
This from a man who "earns" most of his money from investments and therefore pays less that half the rate that hard working earners pay.

Bowing to increasing political pressure to provide more detail about his vast wealth, the former private equity executive released tax returns indicating he and his wife, Ann, paid an effective tax rate of 13.9 percent in 2010. They expect to pay a 15.4 percent rate when they file their returns for 2011.

Romney's tax rate is below that of most wage-earning Americans because most of his income, as outlined in more than 500 pages of tax documents, flows from capital gains on investments.

Under the U.S. tax code, capital gains are taxed at 15 percent, compared with a top tax rate of 35 percent for wage earners.


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What is sad, and what he does not realize, is that many of those freeloaders relying off the government are actually his supporters. What is even sadder, those particular supporters have absolutely no idea how much Romney actually loathes them.

Would LOVE to see your references on this point. Just because you wish something was real, doesn't make it real.

By the way, Mitt is 100% correct. 47% of Americans pay no taxes to the Government. Why is that? It is quite discouraging as a working American to see my taxes increase every year and to collectively see the numbers of those Americans NOT paying taxes and on the Government dole increase. How is that fair to me? Who do you think I will vote for that will protect the integrity of my businesses and decrease my taxes? We should only allow those Americans who pay taxes to vote! What do you think of that!
 
This from a man who "earns" most of his money from investments and therefore pays less that half the rate that hard working earners pay.

Where do you think Obama, Pelosi, Reid and all of your Democrats have their money invested? Be an equal opportunist. If you are going to point a finger at Romney for investing smartly, call out everyone, including Obama! They all invest that way. I don't understand why everyone is picking on Romney and not everyone else? Actually I do understand, it's because he is a Republican and the rest of you are bigots.
 
In response to Dr. J, the fat blue fish.

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And on taxes, here's a post I made for another "conservative" that just doesn't get it.

I forgot a particularly damaging piece of evidence against your idiotic tax argument. How's that tea tasting? Like kool-aid, one would think.

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Nice opine by Krugman. Still, the 47% who do not pay taxes is factual. Krugman's statement is opinion. No facts or references, just his opinion.
 
Those Carter years were ****** for taxes! Thank God for Reaganomics! I do want to pay my fair share, and that would be 27%. That's a honest and realistic number. Roads need repair, bridges (especially in Cleveland) need to be rebuilt, etc. I will never say I should pay 0 taxes. What is your tax% expectations, XFire?
 
Would LOVE to see your references on this point. Just because you wish something was real, doesn't make it real.

Here's your facts and references, fat blue fish.

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Mitt Romney says citizens who don't pay income tax will never vote for him. But eight of the top 10 states with the highest number of nonpayers are red states.

"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what ....These are people who pay no income tax." -Mitt Romney

The horserace implications of this statement are what the chattering class is chattering about. Unfortunately, they're also unknowable at this point. On the one hand, it's always a bad idea to disparage voters (see: Obama, Barack and clinging to guns and religion), and the soundbite helps to cement the idea that Romney is out of touch with the average American -- clearly, he's not trying to connect with nearly half of them! On the other hand, Romney is disparaging folks whose votes he's already written off.

So let's set that speculation aside and look at who the people are who actually pay no income tax. Romney's statements are a little unclear, but it appears that the 47 percent figure represents all of those who pay no income tax, rather than the Democratic base. His problem is that those people are disproportionately in red states -- that is, states that tend to vote Republican:

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One important note about these numbers: This measures only those Americans who filed for taxes with no liability. Millions more didn't even file; it's those millions, added to the estimated 52 million here, who combine to make that 47 percent.

It's important to remember that just because people aren't paying income tax doesn't mean they're not paying taxes -- they pay federal payroll taxes and state and local sales taxes, for example. Once those taxes are factored in, the tax regime is basically flat. And the reason that most income tax nonpayers don't pay is they simply don't make enough income to qualify to pay. As one might expect, the map of states with the highest poverty levels resembles this map fairly closely. Many of them are also seniors, a highly contested voting bloc. Just more than 10 percent of households pay no income tax because they're retired. They might also be voters in places like Florida who are already jumpy about the changes to Medicare and Medicaid that the Romney-Ryan ticket has proposed -- although they would be mostly unaffected by those reforms.

So Romney appears to be wrong about these voters. But if calling for a less progressive taxation system was enough to alienate poor voters in the Deep South, the Republican Party would have already lost its stronghold there.

Update: My colleague Derek Thompson picks up the baton from me and digs deeper into the demographics of the so-called 47 percent. One important note he makes is that it's often the lowest-income people in these red states who are most likely to vote Democratic -- it's just that the rest of the population is conservative enough to carry the states into the Republican column.

In 2008, Obama lost Georgia by 5 percentage points but he won 70% of voters who earned less than $30,000 -- which is precisely the demo most likely to owe no federal income tax. Obama lost Mississippi by 14 percentage points, but picked up 66% of voters who earned less than $30,000. As a general rule, Republicans win among richer voters -- both in the red states and the blue.

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Hmmmm. The Atlantic, a Liberal editorial magazine with a long history of being progressive. They can spin numbers any which way they want, to reach their agenda. I can procure documents which spin the numbers in my favour. FAIL! Try again.

P.S. Please answer my question: what is your tax% that you believe to be fair.
 
Those Carter years were ****** for taxes! Thank God for Reaganomics! I do want to pay my fair share, and that would be 27%. That's a honest and realistic number. Roads need repair, bridges (especially in Cleveland) need to be rebuilt, etc. I will never say I should pay 0 taxes. What is your tax% expectations, XFire?

Reaganomics is what caused the debt problems we're having now. Here's an illustration-

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Hmmmm. The Atlantic, a Liberal editorial magazine with a long history of being progressive. They can spin numbers any which way they want, to reach their agenda. I can procure documents which spin the numbers in my favour. FAIL! Try again.

That's a classic dodge and deflect. I sourced my arguments. Until you provide some factual counters your words and arguments are meaningless.

P.S. Please answer my question: what is your tax% that you believe to be fair.

Ten percent hike and close all loopholes on all income over a million a year. For future reference, don't demand answers from me when you put zero effort into your opinions.
 
Would LOVE to see your references on this point. Just because you wish something was real, doesn't make it real.

By the way, Mitt is 100% correct. 47% of Americans pay no taxes to the Government. Why is that? It is quite discouraging as a working American to see my taxes increase every year and to collectively see the numbers of those Americans NOT paying taxes and on the Government dole increase. How is that fair to me? Who do you think I will vote for that will protect the integrity of my businesses and decrease my taxes? We should only allow those Americans who pay taxes to vote! What do you think of that!


No references needed, but logic, something you obviously lack.
Mitt is saying that all of those in that 47 percentile are Obama supporters. Meaning that 47 percent of those who live in the U.S. are Obama supporters. Also meaning that 100 percent of Obama supporters do not pay taxes. If you can prove to me that any of those figures are correct, then I will admit I am wrong. However, you will be unable to. You present to us no facts, you present nothing to the board but talking points, as well as ineffectual armchair quarterbacking those only further proves your own shortcomings, not of those opponents you so heartily vilify.
Come on, big boy. Give us some facts. Prove me wrong. Prove that you are not the insignificant piece of meat that we all know you to be.
 
No references needed, but logic, something you obviously lack.
Mitt is saying that all of those in that 47 percentile are Obama supporters. Meaning that 47 percent of those who live in the U.S. are Obama supporters. Also meaning that 100 percent of Obama supporters do not pay taxes. If you can prove to me that any of those figures are correct, then I will admit I am wrong. However, you will be unable to. You present to us no facts, you present nothing to the board but talking points, as well as ineffectual armchair quarterbacking those only further proves your own shortcomings, not of those opponents you so heartily vilify.
Come on, big boy. Give us some facts. Prove me wrong. Prove that you are not the insignificant piece of meat that we all know you to be.

Glad you are so significant with all your infinitesimal wisdom. Imagine, the world is a better place.
 
This from a man who "earns" most of his money from investments and therefore pays less that half the rate that hard working earners pay.

Where do you think Obama, Pelosi, Reid and all of your Democrats have their money invested? Be an equal opportunist. If you are going to point a finger at Romney for investing smartly, call out everyone, including Obama! They all invest that way. I don't understand why everyone is picking on Romney and not everyone else? Actually I do understand, it's because he is a Republican and the rest of you are bigots.

Firstly, I am not a Democrat. I live in the UK and I vote Conservative.
Secondly, I point out his "smart investments" purely because he was pointing the finger at non tax payers. He painted the target on himself on this one, that is why he is being picked on in this regard.
 
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