Scientists Erase Specific Memories in Mice

[ChefChiTown]

That's a bit of an exaggeration. There are a few thousand cloned beef cattle and a few hundred cloned dairy cattle in the U.S., out of a total of around 34 million beef cattle and 9 million dairy cattle. As long as it continues to cost close to $20,000 to clone a single animal, the practice won't catch-on widescale (which is not to say that the price won't come way down in the next few years).

Currently, around 60% of the beef that is purchased via grocery stores is from the offspring of cloned cattle. Obviously, anything that is labeled as "organic" is left out of this category.

I'm not sure about your $20,000 estimate on what it costs to clone an animal, but, let's say that it's accurate. You pay $20,000 to clone one cattle. That single cattle will give birth to anywhere between 6-10 cattle during it's lifetime. Then, those cattle can give birth to 6-10 more cattle during their lifetime, so on and so on. The long term savings for the "farmers" would be absolutely ridiculous, thus, the savings would be passed onto you.

Bullshit (pun intended). Cite your source.

I can cite my personal culinary education on that. I'm a CHEF, it's my business to know the reality of what's going on. I know exactly where the food you eat comes from and exactly how much it costs to provide it to you.

How is it super fucking cheap? The cloned embryo still has to be placed in the uterus of the cow and development still takes the same amount of time as an artificially inseminated cow. That's not even taking into consideration the cost of the actual cloning process.

I already answered that during my response to No_Man's post.

FYI - The USDA has no current regulations as to if cloned beef should be labeled as such. Beef from cloned cattle is mixed with beef from natural cattle and there are no regulations that prohibit this. Also, the USDA currently states that farmers/breeders do NOT have to label their food as "cloned beef" if it comes from cloned cattle.

Just look at this...

Meat and milk from cloned cows, pigs and goats are just as safe as food from conventionally bred animals. That was the conclusion released Tuesday by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in a 900-plus-page safety report.

After six years of intensive research on whether meat, muscle tissue and milk from cloned animals are fit for human consumption, the FDA says they "are as safe as food we eat every day."

When the engineered products do hit shelves, the food probably won't come directly from a cloned animal. Those beasts are more likely to be used as high-quality breeding stock. But the offspring of a cloned cow could certainly end up on your bun.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18137332

 

[BlueBalls]

Kinda the way I feel about cloning. Its a double edged sword and a very, VERY sharp one at that!

I agree that cloning is a VERY sharp edge, but I'm against it. I think cloning is playing God and that should never be attempted by man. Whatever god is out there, I don't think he or she would like it.

In a way, erasing certain memories is playing God, but to a much lower level, and a safer one. With cloning, you could take Hitler's skull and make a clone of him and that's just what the world doesn't need again. But with erasing certain memories, you can get rid of memories that may have triggered a person into killing 50 people.

So like you said Legz, it's a very fine edge, but I think the safer of the two, and I use "safer" loosely.

I really dont get why there is all this debate over cloning, im not a religious man in the slightest so I cant see the "Playing God" angle. Everything about us and the world around us is one big accident, a couple billion years ago some particles accidentally bonded (slightly over simplified) and after all this time here we are today, were no longer on all fours and medicine is at its peak. Cloneing will allow us to solve many problems that face our society today, cloned animals should allow people to go without hunger.

By cloneing embryos scientists will be able to remove certain genes that in later life would cause the child/person pain dicomfort and even death. I cant see how that is a bad thing :dunno:. Cloneing organ's for transplantation will solve the difficulties people face finding a doner and a match etc. And it will also allow people who have no way of conceiving a child to do so. These methods will not happen at this moment in time but in the near future I can see all of these positives coming into public life and out of the research lad, with a positive effect on human life.

This cloening isnt going to be Frankensteins monster, thats not what the science is their for, and I seriously do not get the religious angle on this

"God created life so he should be the only one to give life and take it away"

Okay......so when someone is lying in a coma that they are never going to come out of why is it againsts gods will to take out the feeding tube, I mean come on God isnt keeping that person alive is he, its the tube sticking out of their mouth and the respirator conected to their lungs doing that, but oh no! to take those two things out whilst the person is still alive is sacriligious and is against Gods divine plan. Just a thought, whilst im on a roll, if their is a God, isnt it his will to let people die if they cannot live by themselves using their own functions? Religious people are always harping on about how science is playing god and it needs to be regulated more, but as soon as doctors want to take away the science that is keeping a person alive, its "playing God" its actually quite funny if you think about it :1orglaugh. Slihtly hypocritical if you ask me.

 

[maildude]

But what would happen if Mickey lost his memory? He'd forget to feed Pluto and Pluto would starve to death. Then Minnie would break up with him because he forgot their date. Then he'd forget how to get to DisneyWorld and millions of kids would cry their eyes out. That's science for 'ya.

 

[asleep]

Deckard: Implants! Those aren't your memories. They're somebody else's. They're Mickey's nephews' -- Okay, bad joke. I made a bad joke. You're not a replicant. Go home, okay? No really, I'm sorry. Go home -- Want a drink? I'll get you a drink. I'll get a glass.

Those replicant mice must be retired by Blade Runner.

 

[villiageidiot]

I hope they hurry up and start doing this on humans, I sure would love to forget seeing the first 10 seconds of the two girls one cup video!ukey: