I think I get what the article is saying. There's a perception that women are allowed to use the word "love" casually, whereas men are not. A woman can tell a guy she loves him in ways that say, "I think you're a great friend," or, "I care about you a lot," or, "I wanna have your baby." When I guy says, "I love you," it means, "I have a crossed an invisible commitment line and now consider you to be a suitable long-term mate," whether we're trying to be casual about it or not.
Saying "I love you"
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FreeOnes_Anders
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I´m going to call that bullshit... if this was the case I´d have requested a long term intimate relationship with most of my friends... male and female.
Explain where the notion of losing points with a woman comes in with your analysis. In a vacuum I tend to agree with your analysis mostly but I think it leaves out the central theme of this article ...or it's not supported by the main point which is men losing points in the double standard (If my skimming over it is correct.).
I think this was just his interpretation.:o
Thanks Dad!! I can't wait to experience love!!
:dunno: That's just my experience. Maybe its more of an American thing than a human nature thing.
Son I'd say based on your relationship with brodkill, 'hate' probably suits you better.
"Know thyself".
(And no STD, that was not a reference to wanking off so put down the vaseline.:nono
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Here's a little trick... to soften the blow of telling your woman you love her for the very first time (it can be a big deal, I know), take a minute during the course of your third, fourth or fifth, whatever, time of having sex and give her a lite tap on the nose and ask her if she's yours for keeps and closely observe the reaction you get. If it's the reaction you were hoping for, telling her that you love her on a later date won't be so difficult now, will it? :clap:
Going back to this statement/ question...
Girls shouldn't be the first ones to do it, that's the role of a gentleman, if there is such a thing these days...
... I kinda doubt it since the conventional/traditional nuclear family unit seems to have been beaten to a pulp, thanks to modern progressivism. Yep, fathers are supposed to be there to make men out of their sons, however sadly, it ain't happening. (another topic entirely)
I'll get off my soapbox now before this gets ugly.
Going back to this statement/ question...
NV said:
Girls shouldn't be the first ones to do it, that's the role of a gentleman, if there is such a thing these days...
... I kinda doubt it since the conventional/traditional nuclear family unit seems to have been beaten to a pulp, thanks to modern progressivism. Yep, fathers are supposed to be there to make men out of their sons, however sadly, it ain't happening. (another topic entirely)I'll get off my soapbox now before this gets ugly.
See, there's an interesting question, too. When is it okay to say, "I love you," to friends who are not lovers? Certainly in North American society, if a man says to another man, "I love you," it really doesn't matter how close they are, they're immediately called gay. Also, any show of physical intimacy (with the exceptions of the arenas of war and sports) is entirely inappropriate.
I have several good friends, some of each gender, whom I actually love quite dearly, and they know it because I tell them.
I think the right time to say these words is when you are at a point in whatever relationship you're in where it is appropriate to acknowledge a certain level of intimacy. I think that's why parents can say it to their children the second they come out - that intimacy is real, and in place. The words acknowledge that.
blah blah blah. Sorry. I'm rambling.
I don't know that that specific part of it is true. A guy "loses points" for saying, "I love you" too early if the girl is looking for something casual and noncommittal (as this girl explicitly said she was). But he might gain points in other situations. I was agreeing mostly with the concept that, in my experience, men and women have different thresholds for using the word "love" to describe their current emotion towards a person, and that sometimes results in a double standard for how its received by the other person, particularly when it's said early in a relationship.
Son I'd say based on your relationship with brodkill, 'hate' probably suits you better.
"Know thyself".
I don't hate brodkill, I hate bigmanharris now. Get with the times, pops!!
Seriously though, I'm not holding my breath on this whole love thing. Call me young and ignorant, but IMO, I'm neither.
FreeOnes_Anders
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This could be me being myself, I am quite liberal with the word and especially in my native language, its not really that common but you wont be called gay unless you´re talking to 14 year olds.
Hell, what do I know... I´m just a swede in holland
FreeOnes_Anders
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Someones got to provide nutrition....
Well, I was going by the excerpt from the article OP included;
I thought your analysis was in a vacuum and didn't really address what the OP was about.
I don't hate brodkill, I hate bigmanharris now. Get with the times, pops!!
:surprise: You dropped brodkill already?!?!!??? Son, you really DON'T know what true hate is do you?? (And 'hate' is easier than 'love'
).Clever...risky but clever and not as risky as thisky;
Wouldn't you just love to see it...Grandmaster Face with the backup of his Furious 5 (Trident, BSS, BDG, MILFMan and Meester) beatboxing while lovestruck Face professes his love by spittin' a rap...:o
Forget all this love talk. This is better than "I love you"
I have commitment problems so if a girl dropped the L word on me I'd most likely bail/ Luckily my girl hasn't dropped it yet on me and I haven't said it to her yet.
Finally, the correct response.
