Sam sums it up

[Sam Fisher]

After four years he might have a case if things were still as they were when he was elected. But, is it even just a little bit better? Nope, it's worse (way fucking worse) than it was when he took office. But I bet his golf game is better. :stir:

 

[vodkazvictim]

:ban:

 

[Johan]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007–2012_global_financial_crisis

 

[lurkingdirk]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007–2012_global_financial_crisis

Careful, you just proved his initial graphic to be false with just one link.

 

[Straight Shooter]

Sam is pathetic. The man is unable to post an original thought of his own, all he is capable of doing is copy and paste. The same goes for Will, I don't think I've seen a post from Sam or Will that was more than two sentences long

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

They contribute nothing and have nothing to say. They would put the same kind of person into the office of president that is responsible for the economic situation the world is in today. With the only justification being their prejudice and over all lack of factual information. Its these short sighted reactionary ideas that hold the world back from recovering fully. When we should all be embracing cooperation they preach intolerance, when we should find common ground they would point fingers and break us apart. Why is it so hard to get past your misguided anger?? Being an American isn't about beating your chest and screaming I'm right and you are wrong its about doing whats best for our country and our people.
GREED will be the death of our nation only if you let it. Not Obama, not the liberals, and certainly not the misguided right.

 

[larss]

I have picked on just a couple of the items on the chart.

USA Umemployment
In Jan 2008 was 5%, by Jan 2009 it was 7.8% - A rise of 2.8% in one year under GWB. The rate continued to rise for another 8 months, hitting a peak of 10% in October 2009 (a further rise of 2.2%). Since then, it has fallen and is now at 8.3%. Yes, this is higher than when Obama took office, but given the rate of climb under GWB this is pretty damn good. Just turning the ship around in 8 months so stop the climb in the rate of unemployment was an achievement in its own right. (Source - U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics Last updated: Sep 3, 2012)
http://www.google.co.uk/publicdata/...0&tend=1342220400000&hl=en_US&dl=en&ind=false )

Oil Prices
The cost of a barrel of crude oil has over doubled from $46.34 in Jan 2009 to $96.42 today, so a doubling in the price of gasoline is to be expected. The president of the USA has no control over oil prices, so the statistic on the chart is actually meaningless. (Source – NYSE http://www.nyse.tv/crude-oil-price-history.htm)

House Prices
According to http://ycharts.com/indicators/average_sales_price_for_new_houses_sold_in_the_us the average house price in January 2009 was $245200 and is now $263200 which is up, not down.

These are just a 3 of the items on the chart (no source quoted for any of the figures given), so make of the validity of the rest of the chart as you will.

Sam - If you are going to produce a list of figures like this, then each figure needs to be backed up with the source of the information, and be put into context. For example, the Unemployment figures may be correct, but they are misleading.

 

[larss]

Oh, and President Obama has been on vacation 78 days from 2009 to 2011. At the three year mark into their first terms, George W. Bush spent 180 days at his ranch in Crawford, Texas and Ronald Reagan spent 112 vacation days at his ranch in California. I bet those Republican presidents are real good in the saddle.

 

[Johan]

Oh, and President Obama has been on vacation 78 days from 2009 to 2011. At the three year mark into their first terms, George W. Bush spent 180 days at his ranch in Crawford, Texas and Ronald Reagan spent 112 vacation days at his ranch in California. I bet those Republican presidents are real good in the saddle.

And, with all these devices available now (laptops, Blackberry, etc...) even when he is on vacation, Obama can still work (and Yeah, Bush could as well).
When Regan was in vacation, his workfiles stayed in the White House...

 

[lurkingdirk]

I have picked on just a couple of the items on the chart.

USA Umemployment
In Jan 2008 was 5%, by Jan 2009 it was 7.8% - A rise of 2.8% in one year under GWB. The rate continued to rise for another 8 months, hitting a peak of 10% in October 2009 (a further rise of 2.2%). Since then, it has fallen and is now at 8.3%. Yes, this is higher than when Obama took office, but given the rate of climb under GWB this is pretty damn good. Just turning the ship around in 8 months so stop the climb in the rate of unemployment was an achievement in its own right. (Source - U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics Last updated: Sep 3, 2012)
http://www.google.co.uk/publicdata/...0&tend=1342220400000&hl=en_US&dl=en&ind=false )

Oil Prices
The cost of a barrel of crude oil has over doubled from $46.34 in Jan 2009 to $96.42 today, so a doubling in the price of gasoline is to be expected. The president of the USA has no control over oil prices, so the statistic on the chart is actually meaningless. (Source – NYSE http://www.nyse.tv/crude-oil-price-history.htm)

House Prices
According to http://ycharts.com/indicators/average_sales_price_for_new_houses_sold_in_the_us the average house price in January 2009 was $245200 and is now $263200 which is up, not down.

These are just a 3 of the items on the chart (no source quoted for any of the figures given), so make of the validity of the rest of the chart as you will.

Sam - If you are going to produce a list of figures like this, then each figure needs to be backed up with the source of the information, and be put into context. For example, the Unemployment figures may be correct, but they are misleading.

Oh, and President Obama has been on vacation 78 days from 2009 to 2011. At the three year mark into their first terms, George W. Bush spent 180 days at his ranch in Crawford, Texas and Ronald Reagan spent 112 vacation days at his ranch in California. I bet those Republican presidents are real good in the saddle.

Wow, Sam looks pretty foolish now, doesn't he?

 

[Rey C.]

Wow, Sam looks pretty foolish now, doesn't he?

One does have to give him credit though: if nothing else, Sam is consistent.

 

[mikexmoran]