I agree that guys say things that they don't really mean just to appease the model. That's exactly my point. I'm not trying to offend anybody but I'm not going to lie about what I want to see either. Like I said a few times already, if she doesn't want to do it, that's fine and I respect that... but I'm still not gonna pretend that I don't want to see it. That's just stupid. I'm not sure how that is being selfish. I call it being honest. Only herself and her personal family and friends know what's in her best interest... not you, me, or any of her fans.
You're not sure how that's being selfish?....really?.....REALLY?
To prefer to have somebody do something they would rather not do or something they feel is going to be destructive to them for you own pleasure or at least badmouthing the people that don't feel that way is something you don't see anything selfishness with. I'll give you one thing. At least your somewhat a little bit more honest than a lot of porn fans even if you do it in a weird rationalizing sort of way.
The ONLY reason we are on here is because of porn. Maybe some guys might not think so but that doesn't make it true. If anybody thinks they can have a "relationship" with any porn star or nude model, then they are sorely mistaken. There is a line that should never be crossed between a fan and a nude model or porn star. It can be emotionally distressful for you and the girl once you start thinking that there is something more than just being a fan. There is a thin line between devotion and obsession. Just because you are able to buy things for her from amazon or talk to her privately through email or any other source, does NOT mean there is a personal relationship. Please don't kid yourself because nothing good can come out of it. I've been there and done that. I can look back retrospectively and see that it wasn't good. You are only lying to yourself. It's great to talk and joke around with a model via twitter or cam chats but the conversation should NEVER get personal because it's none of our business. You talk about her happiness and well-being like you actually know her. Don't be ridiculous. You should never let your emotions be associated with a nude model or porn star because it's NOT real. You're only setting yourself up to be let down. Obviously, I'm not just talking about Sabrina in particular, I'm referring to any girl in the industry in general.
What the fuck are you babbling about? For starters you shouldn't tell me why I do what I do. I'm damn sure I know why I do it. I'm not nice to models because I want to get close to them, or I think I have a chance with them. Even if in some magical make believe world I had a chance I wouldn't want a relationship like that with most of them. Things like intimate personal relationships are things I take seriously, that take a long time to form, and don't toy around with. I'm nice for the simple fact that I like doing good things instead of being an asshole, and I want to be a good person, plain and simple. I don't know if that's a concept you can grasp. Maybe you're just one of those people that think there has to be some ulterior motive for anybody acting with decency or being nice to somebody else. For the same reason I consider myself "emotionally" attached not just to them, but every person in existence, and care about everybody just as much. I take what happens to EVERYBODY personally at some level. The last time I checked workers in the adult industry are people just like the rest of us and I treat them as such.
As far as her happiness and well being, for one I need only go by what she herself has said, and two, I've seen enough of the industry and known enough of what happens in it to see the obvious. I'm not going to throw out common sense and wisdom I've learned in my life when a situation is staring me in the face, and when somebody doesn't think they can handle going harder in the industry it's almost always disastrous to keep going in that direction.
For the record I come here because I like the community and I have made some friends on this board. Out of my 20,000+ posts the majority have nothing to do with porn and only a small percentage are even in this section. The porn, or at least the selective porn I find alright and decent is just a bonus.
Also, like Sabrina pointed out before, we are not in the porn industry so we really have no say on what can ruin a model. We don't know what decisions a girl has made or why she made them. We really don't know anything. It is ignorant for us to say what can ruin a model because we don't know shit. You talk about a "treacherous road that isn't always easy to navigate and has many perils" like you know what you're talking about. C'mon man, those are just words. You really have no idea.
Sabrina, I think you are an amazing model and you really turn me on. You are incredibly beautiful and talented. I love your face, you eyes, your smile, and your sexy body... but I do NOT love you. I don't know you on that level and I never will so it would be stupid for me to say that I do.
Ehh...I've seen so much of this industry, have heard, and known about so much that, yes, I'm rather well informed about what destroys models careers. I might even go as far as to say I know more than a lot of performers, and maybe even a lot of producers, I'm just more honest about it. Even for people that don't know that much it's not exactly rocket science and can be grasped with just common sense. Unless you're going to somehow discount the huge mostly now forgotten masses of women that have come before, that gained nothing out of it, don't have much money left over from it, and now have the potential for very great detrimental social stigma attached to them the rest of their lives, it proves my point. I have nothing short of history itself siding with me.
Maybe if Sabrina jumped into it when she wasn't ready it could go well. Maybe she for some reasons explodes and becomes one of the biggest things the industry has ever seen, and cashes out so huge she's set for life, but the chances for that pale in comparison to the chance of disaster and ending up like most everybody else. That also doesn't take into account all the out of porn ramifications of it. I'm glad she has the wisdom and has thought things out to make a good decision for herself. I'm also glad she wasn't lured by the quickest biggest amount of cash she could get. A lot of people don't reflect on the long term consequences as much. It's a career for the few that can do it right, but for most in the industry they can't.
Maybe some day Sabrina will feel alright with hardcore porn, and will do it in the right way. Maybe she goes her entire career and it's something that will never be right with her. Until the day she knows beyond doubt it's the right decision for her, and the situation will be one that will end up for the positive for her there is no way I'm going to put my need for sexual pleasure looking at her above what she thinks if for the best, nor am I going to tell anybody else that feels the same way they need to grow up or are kissing the models asses.
