Redefining Rape - The Republican Agenda

[MMMariah]

In 2012 one moronic republican named Todd Akin said this about women getting pregnant from being raped: “the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.” Ask him about climate change and he'll say "I'm no scientists so I don't know" but ask him about rape resulting in pregnancy and the motherfucker is down with science. How typical.

Of course this was the result of a discussion on how to make abortion harder to get so they wanted to cut any funding for victims of rape who got pregnant to have an abortion.

So he teemed up with Mr Bean from Wisconsin to draft a law to take all funding away from paying for abortion for rape victims and in the law they attempted to redefine rape. Seriously. I swear. Its true.

Under H.R. 3, only victims of “forcible rape” would qualify for federally funded abortions. Victims of statutory rape—say, a 13-year-old girl impregnated by a 30-year-old man—would be on their own. So would victims of incest if they’re over 18. And while “forcible rape” isn’t defined in the criminal code, the addition of the adjective seems certain to exclude acts of rape that don’t involve overt violence—say, cases where a woman is drugged or has a limited mental capacity."

So they want a category of rape created as if that's necessary. A woman says no, the man doesn't listen and has sex with her IN ANY WAY BY ANY MEANS. Be it by violence or by drugging them ala Bill Cosby. Rape is rape.

I want to know where this republican party thinks it will get its votes from. They have done polls that show that they win more elections due to people voting against the other side than for the republican party's ideas.

Now they are on the wrong side of almost everything. They lose an election and do in internal autopsy which says they need more minorities and women voters so what do they do? They say more offensive shit to women and minorities.

For fuck's sake.

 

[SabrinaDeep]

Put like this sounds awful. However, rape is rape, but no rape is no rape as well. Someone can't be raped just because she says so. I hope we all agree that some evidence is needed that a rape has happened. Personally i don't think that if a woman gets willingly drunk and then fucks a man and regrets it the day after she should be considered a victim of rape. The same applies to a 16yo girl fucking a 60yo man willingly and then regretting it and playing the rape card (this is just my personal opinion: i know that in some states the age of consent is 18 and therefore at 16 could be considered rape; i just disagree with that). How do you know beyond any reasonable doubt that a sex act was consumed willingly? Well, that's another matter. You probably can't. But if you give women the chance to use the rape card without any responsibilities, that card becomes a weapon.

I haven't found on the H.R. 3 any traces of what you claim (i also can't find "forcible rape" which you quoted), although i might have read a shortened version so you might be right.
I've got it at

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr3/text

and the section about rape and incest reads:

301.Prohibition on funding for abortions
No funds authorized or appropriated by Federal law, and none of the funds in any trust fund to which funds are authorized or appropriated by Federal law, shall be expended for any abortion.

302.Prohibition on funding for health benefits plans that cover abortion
None of the funds authorized or appropriated by Federal law, and none of the funds in any trust fund to which funds are authorized or appropriated by Federal law, shall be expended for health benefits coverage that includes coverage of abortion.

303.Limitation on Federal facilities and employees
No health care service furnished—

(1)by or in a health care facility owned or operated by the Federal Government; or
(2)by any physician or other individual employed by the Federal Government to provide health care services within the scope of the physician’s or individual’s employment,
may include abortion.

308.Treatment of abortions related to rape, incest, or preserving the life of the mother
The limitations established in sections 301, 302, and 303 shall not apply to an abortion—

(1)if the pregnancy is the result of an act of rape or incest; or
(2)in the case where a woman suffers from a physical disorder, physical injury, or physical illness that would, as certified by a physician, place the woman in danger of death unless an abortion is performed, including a life-endangering physical condition caused by or arising from the pregnancy itself.

If you could post your source i would appreciate.

Now if at some point Mr. Akin proposed to add the word "forcible" to the bill that's also possible, but i don't see it in the calendarized bill so i don't see how it is a republican issues vs Mr Atkin and his mates personal opinion (which i disagree with in relation to the word "forcible" beside the word "rape"). I also find the word forcible inappropriate because rape is about consent, not force. I would have elaborated on the word "consent" which in my opinion is used too arbitrarily these days.

 

[MMMariah]

Have you ever been raped Sabrina? Held down screaming while someone forces you to have sex with them while you cry and kick and scream? It makes you afraid to be alone with ALL men, including your uncle and your grandfather and even your father. You could not feel more violated by any other act. It haunts you and it takes away one of the very few things in your life that you could share with only someone you love and trust. It makes sex no longer special even with someone you love. So if you want to try to use the VERY small % of cases where women use rape as a weapon, you are the exact reason that more than 80% of rapes go unreported. That's why men get away with it and most often it's by someone you know. Anyone who defends rapists and dismisses rape as just something women make up to get revenge should be punched in the fucking face because YOU are as much of the problem as the rapists are. You help them get away with it. You make people afraid to speak up.

Here are the articles.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/20...kin-and-paul-ryan-partnered-to-redefine-rape/

http://www.businessinsider.com/todd-akin-paul-ryan-rape-bill-forcible-legitimate-mitt-romney-2012-8

 

[SabrinaDeep]

Have you ever been raped Sabrina? Held down screaming while someone forces you to have sex with them while you cry and kick and scream? It makes you afraid to be alone with ALL men, including your uncle and your grandfather and even your father. You could not feel more violated by any other act. It haunts you and it takes away one of the very few things in your life that you could share with only someone you love and trust. It makes sex no longer special even with someone you love. So if you want to try to use the VERY small % of cases where women use rape as a weapon, you are the exact reason that more than 80% of rapes go unreported. That's why men get away with it and most often it's by someone you know. Anyone who defends rapists and dismisses rape as just something women make up to get revenge should be punched in the fucking face because YOU are as much of the problem as the rapists are. You help them get away with it. You make people afraid to speak up.

Here are the articles.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/20...kin-and-paul-ryan-partnered-to-redefine-rape/

http://www.businessinsider.com/todd-akin-paul-ryan-rape-bill-forcible-legitimate-mitt-romney-2012-8

It's irrelevant if i have been raped or not.
I'm just saying that when possible i don't want to send a man to jail and ruin his life because a cunt of a woman got drunk with him, took it happily up her twat and the day after got assaulted by prudish remorse and played the rape card. Even if there was only one such a case a year (and there are thousands if not more). You are not an untouchable Goddess just because you are a woman: if you get raped your offender should rot in jail, if you just play the rape card unjustly you should go rotting in jail. A willingly drunken girl willingly fucking a man does not cry and scream and kick: she takes it like a champ and she should be responsible for it which has nothing to do with legitimate women being "legitimately" raped, God help them.

Thanks for the links. In one i read an update stating

The Romney-Ryan campaign just released a statement distancing itself from the Akin-Ryan position on abortion in the case of rape: “Gov. Romney and Cong. Ryan disagree with Mr. Akin’s statement, and a Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape.”

As i thought, it is not a republican thing, but just the thing of a couple of idiots who happen to be republicans and in fact in the calendarized bill there is no trace of "forcible rape" and the republicans distanced themselves from Mr. Akin statement.

 

[MMMariah]

Did you read who the authors of the bill were? Paul Ryan who was Romney's VP running mate. They didn't distance themselves from it until he picked him as VP. Did you watch last week's republican debate when 2 candidates said they would make abortion illegal even in the cae of rape incest and chance of the mother dying? Yeah 2 of them stated that and I guarantee that all of them agree with it and would say so if it wouldn't hurt them.

And to redefine a crime that is the most violating thing that can happen to someone because some bitches lie about it is retarded. I say put those bitches in jail for years. But you can't make it harder for it to be punished and make more women afraid to come forward. Its already a horrible thing to do and deal with because you are forced to relive it over and over and over.

And it is a VERY republican thing.

 

[Supafly]

My thoughts: It is funny how some people are absolutely adamant about forcing every child into the world, but once it's there, kids, you're4 on your own. Education, Housing, getting something to eat? Hey, we got you here, now try to survive! You are only useful if you join the armed forces or such, and even afterwards, fuck off.

And of course, the death penalty is something COMPLETELY different. Sacred lives? It's more about domination over women's bodies.

 

[SabrinaDeep]

My thoughts: It is funny how some people are absolutely adamant about forcing every child into the world, but once it's there, kids, you're4 on your own. Education, Housing, getting something to eat? Hey, we got you here, now try to survive! You are only useful if you join the armed forces or such, and even afterwards, fuck off.

And of course, the death penalty is something COMPLETELY different. Sacred lives? It's more about domination over women's bodies.

Are you saying that abortionists are forced to have sex and get pregnant, in the majority of cases? I think we are losing it. The Holy Spirit impregnated one woman only once if you believe that. It's not about forcing children into the world, it is about enforcing people's responsibilities. If you fuck without protection you know You Might get pregnant, if you do it in your fertile period the outcome is almost a given. If you don't want to have a child it is beyond me why you cannot use a protection and avoid the prospect of an abortion. We all know what it takes. If the world is failing it is because it is always someone else's fault and people want only to have rights and no duties. But it doesn't work like that and in fact our society is a fucking mess. My 2 cents.

 

[xfire]

My thoughts: It is funny how some people are absolutely adamant about forcing every child into the world, but once it's there, kids, you're4 on your own. Education, Housing, getting something to eat? Hey, we got you here, now try to survive! You are only useful if you join the armed forces or such, and even afterwards, fuck off.

And of course, the death penalty is something COMPLETELY different. Sacred lives? It's more about domination over women's bodies.

That's why the GOP doesn't qualify as pro-life, they're merely pro-birth, a noble stance for sure, but certainly not worthy of support based solely on that premise and I know a fuck ton of people that support the GOP gimps for that reason alone.

 

[Rey C.]

It's irrelevant if i have been raped or not.
I'm just saying that when possible i don't want to send a man to jail and ruin his life because a cunt of a woman got drunk with him, took it happily up her twat and the day after got assaulted by prudish remorse and played the rape card. Even if there was only one such a case a year (and there are thousands if not more). You are not an untouchable Goddess just because you are a woman: if you get raped your offender should rot in jail, if you just play the rape card unjustly you should go rotting in jail. A willingly drunken girl willingly fucking a man does not cry and scream and kick: she takes it like a champ and she should be responsible for it which has nothing to do with legitimate women being "legitimately" raped, God help them.

As i thought, it is not a republican thing, but just the thing of a couple of idiots who happen to be republicans and in fact in the calendarized bill there is no trace of "forcible rape" and the republicans distanced themselves from Mr. Akin statement.

We don't always agree. But when we do, damn, it's like all of the stars and planets have lined up.

Awesome post, Sabrina. Really! :hatsoff:


Edit to add: Of course, the system won't let me rep you. I owe ya.

 

[BlkHawk]

We don't always agree. But when we do, damn, it's like all of the stars and planets have lined up.

Awesome post, Sabrina. Really! :hatsoff:


Edit to add: Of course, the system won't let me rep you. I owe ya.

I got your back for the rep, I also don't always see eye to eye with Sabrina, but she knocked one out the park this time.

 

[MMMariah]

bitch about unwanted pregnancy AND bitching about planned parenthood that helps prevent millions of unwanted pregnancies and how to avoid it happening. Wow.

And again, when the REPUBLICANS running for president say that they aren't even for an exception for incest or rape or the mortal danger of the mother, it IS a fucking republican issue. When they all want to get rid of planned parenthood unanimously, that is a republican issue. its the shit they say on repeat to get the bible beaters to write them checks.

 

[BusterLoads]

Have you ever been raped Sabrina? Held down screaming while someone forces you to have sex with them while you cry and kick and scream? It makes you afraid to be alone with ALL men, including your uncle and your grandfather and even your father. You could not feel more violated by any other act. It haunts you and it takes away one of the very few things in your life that you could share with only someone you love and trust. It makes sex no longer special even with someone you love. So if you want to try to use the VERY small % of cases where women use rape as a weapon, you are the exact reason that more than 80% of rapes go unreported. That's why men get away with it and most often it's by someone you know. Anyone who defends rapists and dismisses rape as just something women make up to get revenge should be punched in the fucking face because YOU are as much of the problem as the rapists are. You help them get away with it. You make people afraid to speak up.

Holy fucking shit... the amount of bullshit in this post makes my fucking blood itch.

You have your head so far up the gaping ass of feminist propaganda, it would be hilarious if it weren't ridiculously sad. Demonizing all men as rapists? Really? I like how you didn't try to talk about female rapists and sexual predators. Of course you wouldn't because female sex offenders don't fit in with your narrative. People like you pushing this narrative that all men are rapists are the reason why more and more men are just fed up with dating and have decided to walk away from women entirely. You're like one of those shit spewing women that believe that if a woman has sex while she's drunk is a rape victim but if a man has sex while he's drunk he's a rapist.

"the VERY small % of cases where women use rape as a weapon... anyone who defends rapists and dismisses rape as just something women make up to get revenge should be punched in the fucking face because YOU are as much of the problem as the rapists are."

The TRUTH is, you don't know how small of a percentage that number really is, because NO ONE knows. There are only two things that can be said with certainty about it: the amount of women that lie about being raped is a big enough number to where it is considered a problem and because women face no real consequence have no reason to ever really stop, and most times than not, the men that are victims of these rape accusations get their lives ruined and sometimes to the point of no return, such as the case where a woman lied about her college boyfriend raping her, causing him to get kicked out of school, losing his chance to play professional football and paying her a large sum of money. Of course she admitted she lied about the whole thing 6-7 years later but his life was already fucked up and on top of that, she didn't even go to jail or even have to pay back the money she fucking STOLE from him.

Dude, why the fuck do you hate your own gender so much? Or do you just believe that if you regurgitate this shit enough, you'll get a woman to finally to sleep with you? Stop worshiping pussy man. It's not worth it.

 

[BusterLoads]

double post

 

[sean miguel]

Dude, why the fuck do you hate your own gender so much? Or do you just believe that if you regurgitate this shit enough, you'll get a woman to finally to sleep with you?

lol

pssst ...

 

[acenionX]

well to defend Sabrina in order for it to be rape in my eyes their must have been force used. If a girl gets drunk and has sex or does something she regrets later that's not rape.


I remember a case where an officer was charged with rape, they said he abused his power. he told a girl who had a warrant so he arrested her, that if she fucked him and his partner he would pretend he didn't see her. They left the dash cam on and it got reported. In my opinion that prostitution which is illegal but not rape. If i got arrested with a warrant id go to jail.

 

[acenionX]

Also i can fix the statutory sex problem. If your 16 and your sending naked pics to a grown man, and he fucks you then you both go to jail. Trust me if girls had consequences for there actions they would think twice.

whatever trouble the male gets in the girl gets as well. that would fix all the statutory rape problems right there.

 

[Mr_Stiffy]

I remember a case where an officer was charged with rape, they said he abused his power. he told a girl who had a warrant so he arrested her, that if she fucked him and his partner he would pretend he didn't see her. They left the dash cam on and it got reported. In my opinion that prostitution which is illegal but not rape.

Your opinion is wrong. That's rape. If you're blackmailed or coerced into it, you haven't consented. That's rape.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

Buncha sexist assholes. Automatically thinking that women can be the only rape victims. Rape under any circumstance is the most vile, immoral, evil thing you can do to a body. There was a story in Allentown today that makes me absolutely sick. Right to my core. http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/mc-c-allentown-man-charged-with-raping-girl-20150811-story.html

Rape needs no re-definition. It's pretty straightforward. What needs to be changed is the punishment for the offense. But then the punishment for the people who cry wolf should be strengthened as well.

 

[acenionX]

Listen if an officer gave me a choice jail or bend over I'm choosing jail. Its not like it was a fake charge she actually did a crime and had a warrant, honestly she shouldn't even had an option.

 

[BusterLoads]

Your opinion is wrong. That's rape. If you're blackmailed or coerced into it, you haven't consented. That's rape.

Well this can go both ways:

if the cops lied about having a warrant for her arrest and only said that for the sole intentions of gang banging her, then I agree that what they did was coercion and rape and should be punished accordingly.

if she legit committed a crime and the cops actually DID have a warrant for her arrest, then she had every option not to fuck them and take her punishment for the crime she committed, and her fucking them is NOT coercion nor rape.

Regardless of what happened, what the cops did was wrong and should lose their jobs.

Listen if an officer gave me a choice jail or bend over I'm choosing jail. Its not like it was a fake charge she actually did a crime and had a warrant, honestly she shouldn't even had an option.

I made my post before seeing your response but I agree with this.

Buncha sexist assholes. Automatically thinking that women can be the only rape victims. Rape under any circumstance is the most vile, immoral, evil thing you can do to a body. There was a story in Allentown today that makes me absolutely sick. Right to my core. http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/mc-c-allentown-man-charged-with-raping-girl-20150811-story.html

Rape needs no re-definition. It's pretty straightforward. What needs to be changed is the punishment for the offense. But then the punishment for the people who cry wolf should be strengthened as well.

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Ace Boobtoucher again." Well said.