Prince Harry's Nazi "Indiscretion"

Durty_Dog said:
What a dick! the royal family are more German than Engliah in blood anyway so he's offending himself, this also in my opinion shows how racist alot of people in Britain are today, i hate to say that but it's true. Simple answer abolish the royal family...

Every time they say or do something stupid the knee-jerk reaction is a call for their abolishment. I happen to despise the Royals, not because they act like idiots, but because I consider myself a populist (and therefore I'm against any form of elitism). The fact that they act like idiots just adds fuel to the fire.
 

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Brino said:
I'm not so sure about that. We may not all be the public from England but we are the public and were talking about it for some unknown idiotic reason. Who cares what the fuck he does.

I agree with you Brino. Who gives a fuck what he does? If he wants to get dressed up as a Nazi; that's his business. Is it good judgement? No. Will it offend many? Probably? So what? They will live.
Just about everything you do is going to offend somebody to some extent. Besides, it was a costume party, wasen't it? It wasen't a political rally.
And we don't know any other details about it. Maybe it was a theme party and he had to come as a notorious political figure. Maybe he thought it would be funny and that the public would never find out. Maybe he KNEW the public would find out and wanted to create a stir. We don't know.

And to Georges (coincidental this subject came up so soon after our earlier discussion, eh? lol), not ALL Nazis were racist. I believe most just wanted to have pride in themselves after the Treaty of Versaillies. I mean millions of 'normal' Germans signed up for the Nazi party. Does that mean they were all rascist scumbags? Of course not. But there leaders clearly were.
But everyone is right in saying that the higher up Nazis were scum and seeing the prince wear that must have been a bit disconcerting for many. And he should have known better.
But I for one would like to hear his side of it before I pass judgement.

And even if his reason is fairly lame...back to what Brino typed...who cares what the fuck he does?
 
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McRocket

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BTW I just read my above entry and it makes me sound iffy on Nazis. Soooo, for the record, I am COMPLETELY anti Nazi. I just think that many Germans (in the thirties and forties) didn't fully know what they got themselves into when they signed up for the Nazi party (and voted for Hitler) until it was too late.
 
I don't know. It was a dumb, idiotic thing to do; especially being photographed. I think it may have been blown out of proportion. I am pretty sure he didn't mean to offend anyone, but it's understandable that he did offend people.
 
He's just a kid (yes I'm aware of his age). I think he meant it as a joke and if I was at a costume party I thought it would have been a good laugh (as is the Nazi regime). And that's what I think he meant it as - a good laugh. He was mocking it. I was not offended. Lighten up people. Concern yourself with the real nazi party still in existence who honor Hitler, not the ones who make fun of it...
 
It's unfortunate how many symbols have been defaced by the Nazis. In ancient Indian times, the symbol was one of good luck, worn on jewelry or placed on objects to symbolize a relationship with the sun as well as the wheel of birth/rebirth. If it weren't for those bastards (aka Nazis), the symbol would have a completely different meaning.
 

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mcrocket said:
And to Georges (coincidental this subject came up so soon after our earlier discussion, eh? lol), not ALL Nazis were racist. I believe most just wanted to have pride in themselves after the Treaty of Versaillies. I mean millions of 'normal' Germans signed up for the Nazi party. Does that mean they were all rascist scumbags? Of course not. But there leaders clearly were.
But everyone is right in saying that the higher up Nazis were scum and seeing the prince wear that must have been a bit disconcerting for many. And he should have known better.
But I for one would like to hear his side of it before I pass judgement.

And even if his reason is fairly lame...back to what Brino typed...who cares what the fuck he does?

Nazism was always filled of antisemitism. That mainly came from "Mein Kampf" when he was in jail. Nazis belived in superiority of the Aryan race (blond with blue eyes was the perfection) and in that way they were racists.
Nazis were racists, they hated people from Russia, England, France, Italia, Poland, Jews, etc. If you say that not all Nazis were racist then I am wondering where you studied history.People were endoctrined by propaganda and backed up Hitler's ideas. Before WWII, many people who voted for Hitler accused the Jews of being responsible of what happened to them after the end WWI.
Prince Harry doesn't realize the consequences of his acts.Probably is he a new Edward VIII.
"And even if his reason is fairly lame...back to what Brino typed...who cares what the fuck he does?" Definitely I could expect that from you.
 

georges

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mcrocket said:
BTW I just read my above entry and it makes me sound iffy on Nazis. Soooo, for the record, I am COMPLETELY anti Nazi. I just think that many Germans (in the thirties and forties) didn't fully know what they got themselves into when they signed up for the Nazi party (and voted for Hitler) until it was too late.

People who voted for Hitler, knew clearly who they were voting for, they realized that the IIIrd reich began to fail after the Stalingrad battle and also after El Alamein Battle.1942 was the most significant turn of the war.
 
and if a Royal in a nazi costume wasn't bad enough..
The Queen apparently told someone that she thought Paris would get the olympics( which they probably will ).
 

McRocket

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georges said:
Nazism was always filled of antisemitism. That mainly came from "Mein Kampf" when he was in jail. Nazis belived in superiority of the Aryan race (blond with blue eyes was the perfection) and in that way they were racists.
Nazis were racists, they hated people from Russia, England, France, Italia, Poland, Jews, etc. If you say that not all Nazis were racist then I am wondering where you studied history.People were endoctrined by propaganda and backed up Hitler's ideas. Before WWII, many people who voted for Hitler accused the Jews of being responsible of what happened to them after the end WWI.
Prince Harry doesn't realize the consequences of his acts.Probably is he a new Edward VIII.
"And even if his reason is fairly lame...back to what Brino typed...who cares what the fuck he does?" Definitely I could expect that from you.

So you are saying that every single German who voted for Hitler in 1933 was rascist? Does that also include all the (apparently) millions of children in the Hitler Youth?
 

McRocket

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georges said:
"And even if his reason is fairly lame...back to what Brino typed...who cares what the fuck he does?" Definitely I could expect that from you.

Oh, name calling Georges? I thought you wanted to stay away from that? Well, if it persists I am going to have to call you a closet dictator. And you know what you get like when I do that.

So why don't we just try and be decent to each other and just try to get along, huh?
 
Im with MC on this one, i dont really think its that big a deal. We know hes not a Nazi. Ppl just blow this out of proportion.
 
am sorry but i have to disagree with you georges.you cant claim all nazis were racists.

people just didnt follow hitler for them reasons,many did because they belived in defending and fighting for the country.and many many more were forced to fight for there country,you could say it was more than just encouraged.and iam not defending them but when hitler controlled the whole media,radio,papers,loud speakers put up in the street sounding day and night about the jews,is it any wonder that alot of the population were racists,but they did not make that decision to be racists,if anything they ere brainwashed by a Evil but clever man.

as i said iam not defending them but you have to look at th whole picture to try and understand the problem.
 
WaReZnIkKi said:
It's unfortunate how many symbols have been defaced by the Nazis. In ancient Indian times, the symbol was one of good luck, worn on jewelry or placed on objects to symbolize a relationship with the sun as well as the wheel of birth/rebirth. If it weren't for those bastards (aka Nazis), the symbol would have a completely different meaning.

The Nazi symbol is actually reversed,which makes it even more freaky. If the original stood for birth/rebirth, then *shudders* well, yeah. Its fucked up.
 

georges

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mcrocket said:
So why don't we just try and be decent to each other and just try to get along, huh?

Yes it is better to be decent to each other and try to get along.
 

georges

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mcrocket said:
So you are saying that every single German who voted for Hitler in 1933 was rascist? Does that also include all the (apparently) millions of children in the Hitler Youth?
No but like in every nation, you have a lot of racists.The population got brainwashed by the propaganda and became hugely racist.They weren't racist at the start but it is due to propaganda before 1933 that Germans became racist.
About the Hitler Jugend a big majority of them defended Hitler's ideas and some of the Hitler Jugend were fierce fighters till the last days of fight in Berlin. They believed in everything Hilter told them.
 

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Acot said:
am sorry but i have to disagree with you georges.you cant claim all nazis were racists.

people just didnt follow hitler for them reasons,many did because they believed in defending and fighting for the country.and many many more were forced to fight for there country,you could say it was more than just encouraged.and iam not defending them but when hitler controlled the whole media,radio,papers,loud speakers put up in the street sounding day and night about the jews,is it any wonder that alot of the population were racists,but they did not make that decision to be racists,if anything they ere brainwashed by a Evil but clever man.

as i said iam not defending them but you have to look at th whole picture to try and understand the problem.

I agree. But you must take in consideration that in every country you have a lot of racists and antisemitism doesn't date from yesterday.
 
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