President refuses to succumb to call for pullout from politicians, citizens

Perfect example of how the "Government of the United States" is not the same as "The United States" or "the people of the United States".


cheers
 
Ok the troops (to include all military branches) kicked the shit out of the Iraqi Army and won the War around 21 days total. There has been a lot of "insurgents" fighting the troops, but they still get their asses whupped. Overall it is a victory for the troops, defeat for the neo cons politicians. Our troops should start pulling out leave a couple of bases in case radicals take over the Iraqi Goverment. Security will always be an issue and to have a permanent U.S. presence of so many troops in there is not going to fix the situation only the Iraqis will, it was the case then why not invade certain areas of south LA and take out the gangs or deploy our troops to secure our borders in large numbers. Expect the next presdiential election be dominated by the Iraqi pull out debate and I feel sorry for those who believe in "stay the course" because they will not get elected. I think it will happen around late 2008 or the middle of 2009.
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
I love this quote:

“I wouldn’t ask a mother or a dad — I wouldn’t put their son in harm’s way if I didn’t believe this was necessary for the security of the United States and the peace of the world,” Bush said. “I strongly believe it, and I strongly believe we’ll prevail.”

Bet he wouldn't feel that strongly if it was Barb or Jenna on the front lines.

January, 2009 sure seem like a long, long way off....

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This is exactly of what I am talking about, I could have told them that shit.


McCain's own embrace of politically disastrous positions also contributed to his woes.

He staunchly backed both Bush's troop increase for the Iraq war, an unpopular conflict with the public but one supported by most Republicans, and the president's legislation to grant eventual citizenship to millions of illegal immigrations — a measure that has divided the GOP.

Over the past six months, McCain found his donors and supporters turned off by what they viewed as the senator supporting the policies of a lame-duck president with abysmal approval ratings. That caused McCain's fundraising and polling to suffer.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070710/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_campaign
 
God forbid the rest of government or the citizens that it represents should actually have a say in the way Bush runs the country (into the ground).
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
His old man should have pulled out early....
 
Yankeefan21325; said:
Never have I seen a man as stubborn and set in his ways as Bush is.

I've seen plenty of people like this....but thankfully none have been president, and now we can see why.
 
I truly believe that all the booze and blow Dubya did in th 70s is having an effect on him. I don't think he is capable of free-thinking anymore. I believe he has the mentality of a senior citizen who is suffering from early onset dementia. The way he talks in a press conference of in a speech is like someone who is fighting to "find the right words" and by the time he finds the right words, he's forgotten what question or topic he's addressing. I think Cheney and Rove are pressing the buttons on our Robot President.

The fact of the matter is Dubya was correct when he said "Mission Accomplished" back in 2004. All we're doing now is wasting lives, money and time, in that order. Iraq will set up the government it wants to setup. We're simply in the way at this point. We're not actively seeking out "al Queda," because they aren't presenting themselves as a standard enemy. They are guerrilla warriors at this point. We should be sending in our own "sleeper agents" who slip into Bagdad and eliminate insurgents when they find them.

I think it would be best for us to totally remove our troops from that region and focus on securing our borders, inspecting freight and building up our intelligence resources.
 
I truly believe that all the booze and blow Dubya did in th 70s is having an effect on him. I don't think he is capable of free-thinking anymore. I believe he has the mentality of a senior citizen who is suffering from early onset dementia. The way he talks in a press conference of in a speech is like someone who is fighting to "find the right words" and by the time he finds the right words, he's forgotten what question or topic he's addressing. I think Cheney and Rove are pressing the buttons on our Robot President.

The fact of the matter is Dubya was correct when he said "Mission Accomplished" back in 2004. All we're doing now is wasting lives, money and time, in that order. Iraq will set up the government it wants to setup. We're simply in the way at this point. We're not actively seeking out "al Queda," because they aren't presenting themselves as a standard enemy. They are guerrilla warriors at this point. We should be sending in our own "sleeper agents" who slip into Bagdad and eliminate insurgents when they find them.

I think it would be best for us to totally remove our troops from that region and focus on securing our borders, inspecting freight and building up our intelligence resources.

An excellent post. But why do you feel the need to insult robots like that?
 
All you have to ask yourself in almost any situation is...Who is making money on this deal?
Every single thing that the government votes on big or small...good or bad...someone somewhere has paid someone and is making that money back 10 fold.

BTW didnt know if anyone knew this but even Condi has a link to BIG OIL

http://www.opensecrets.org/bush/cabinet/cabinet.rice.asp
 
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