We all know that anal sex is more dangerous than vaginal sex. I don't know what you're getting at here. And if we both think that education is the answer, then what are we disagreeing about? :dunno:
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What I'm trying to get across is how much more dangerous anal sex is than vaginal sex. Based upon my own observations, the porn industry is not being anywhere near careful enough. Unfortunately, gentle anal sex isn't likely to sell anywhere near as well. In fact, it seems to me that there's a trend towards even rougher anal sex.
I think we disagree about both the existence of and the magnitude of the problems mentioned. The porn industry won't limit itself, especially if no one in it acknowledges that there are problems.
Thus, IMO, regulation is inevitable. That'll anger a lot of people, but it'll promote my cause (education).
NB: The information about the risks and anatomy of anal sex are in the link included in my sig, in case that wasn't clear enough before. The page is maintained by me and I make no money off of it. If you've not clicked that for some reason (e.g. paranoia), let me know and I will provide them here.
I don’t disagree that anal sex is more dangerous than vaginal sex. I might even conclude that it’s “considerably” more dangerous, depending on the variables involved and outcome you’re alluding to. As I said earlier, I do have a problem with the way the industry promotes and portrays certain things; and extreme anal sex acts would be an example of one of those things. So I’m not denying the existence of the situation.
However, I think a lot of people really don’t have a decent understanding of the risks of sexual acts. There are a lot of myths and legends that many people believe as truth. For ex: I’ve talked to people that really believe that if you have unprotected vaginal sex, that you’re 99% guaranteed to get either an STD or get someone pregnant. People don’t realize that it’s not as easy as they’ve been lead to believe it is to catch something or get someone pregnant. So naturally when people come along and start saying negative things about anal sex, they’re gonna start believing all kinds of myths like "everytime you have anal sex your rectum gets slightly damaged, and eventually you’ll be in diapers".
When people believe things like this, they see porn and think OMG, somebody has to stop this. This is promoting dangerous, unhealthy things, etc. But the reality is that they don't really have an understanding that the danger involved in most these acts is lower than they've been lead to believe. So again, education is the key here... not legislation.
"Based upon my own observations, the porn industry is not being anywhere near careful enough. Unfortunately, gentle anal sex isn't likely to sell anywhere near as well. In fact, it seems to me that there's a trend towards even rougher anal sex."
You didn't address my point.
Agreed.
How is that relevant here?
Given that the rectum is lined by a single cellular layer, "slight damage every time" doesn't seem too improbable. As for being in diapers eventually, incontinence is possible.
That was already established from all of the links I've posted in this thread.
You claim to be a porn producer, not a medical doctor. This is probably the reason why we'll never agree.
Stop repeating yourself. I've already agreed with you about this. It's not up to us, though. I can see a need for regulation, even if I won't be advocating it. I won't oppose it, either. Education would probably be promoted by regulation.
I thought I was addressing it. But now I’m not sure I even know what your point is anymore. :dunno:
It’s relevant because when it comes to sex, people tend to believe things that are not exactly so. For example, people tend to over react and embellish the actual dangers of sex (including anal sex); that’s not to say anal sex isn’t more dangerous than vaginal sex, but like with STD transmission, a lot of times things get over exaggerated and blown out of proportion. The point I was trying to make earlier is that many people think certain sex risks are a lot higher than they actually are.
Although I’m not an MD, I have studied medicine and I’m very familiar with how the human body works. The human body is an amazing thing and you’d be surprised at what it can withstand and adapt to.
"Rough anal sex" != "extreme anal sex acts." The first seems to be very common in porn. The latter not so much.
Anyways, I was looking for your take on my claims that 1. women are having rough anal sex in porn and that 2. there seems to be a trend towards rougher anal sex in porn. If you don't want to address these, fine.
According to Rick Shacket*, a proctologist, "different people have different levels of susceptibility to anal problems such as fissures." If he's correct, then we'll never be able to pin down hard numbers for the risks of anal insertive activities.
* http://hemorrhoid.net/analsex.php
If the appearance of Brooke Haven's anus is the product of adaptation, then I want none of it.
http://board.freeones.com/showpost.php?p=1763942&postcount=43
Religions hate anything that is against their beliefs and I see religions as myths since they are all so similar to previous religions but are now known as mythologies like ancient greece, anicent egypt, aztecs, the list goes on and on. Porn has most likely been around longer than todays religions and will most likely be around still when those are gone.
If atheists and un religious people have to just accept religions and their beleifs being around still then surely religions have to learn to accept things that are against their beliefs but the Chance of that happening is the Chance that all 3 or 4 billion religious people in the world accept and realise that what they beleive in is myths. No Chance at all!
Has anyone noticed though that everything that religions want banned has something to do with sex? Things like porn, contraceptives, pre-marital sex, safe sex, etc.
If atheists and un religious people have to just accept religions and their beleifs being around still then surely religions have to learn to accept things that are against their beliefs but the Chance of that happening is the Chance that all 3 or 4 billion religious people in the world accept and realise that what they beleive in is myths. No Chance at all!
Has anyone noticed though that everything that religions want banned has something to do with sex? Things like porn, contraceptives, pre-marital sex, safe sex, etc.
I can agree with those claims. And I can understand your point of saying the industry should not promote those kinds of activities like it does (if that’s one of your points). I agree with you there and I’d like to see producers stop pushing that crap.
This is one of the reasons why we shouldn’t try to put a cloud over anal sex saying it’s extremely risky, dangerous, etc. We know it has risks. We know the risks are higher than with vaginal sex. But that’s not to say it’s as dangerous as you might want (or have been lead) to believe.
No argument here.
Neither one of us is qualified to make this call, though. Unfortunately, the medical establishment has yet to clarify these matters. Until that happens, we're left to guessing about the chances of various problems occurring. Like senob44 said above: if we tried to hash out the chances, "we'd be going in circles."
We'll just have to leave it at that. There is plenty of evidence about that many women are tolerating uncomfortable anal sex and/or using desensitizing creams (PM me if you want more links), so educating people about what can potentially happen is necessary regardless.
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